Stellantis (and all other manufacturers) doesn’t care at all about the environment or “green“ crowd opinions. What they care about is money. If the introduce a feature to save fuel, especially on HD trucks where there‘s no government mandated publishing of fuel economy, it’s because their customers (fleets in the case of HD trucks, us individual buyers are largely irrelevant) are asking for better fuel economy.
The horn thing is intended as a safety/security feature. It has nothing to do with any conspiracy about environmentalists.
People getting out of their vehicles while leaving them running has been a behavior that pretty much started at the same time that cars began rolling off of Fords assembly line. So,119 years later the auto industry adds this feature to change users behavior under the guise of "safety/ security"?The horn thing is intended as a safety/security feature. It has nothing to do with any conspiracy about environmentalists.
Careful what you wish for with not having the three horn honk, because what you just suggested is the other alternative on the table. Within the jobs act, the NHTSA is forced to come up with a solid idea to float to congress about preventing CO deaths with push button start vehicles. NHTSA has been recommending manufacturers come up with some ideas, and some have tried implementing engine shutdown after a certain amount of time. NHTSA isn’t keen on that idea because of circumstances where owners leave pets in the vehicle.If it was a true safety feature, when the fob exceeded a predetermined distance from the vehicle it would shut down
That can already be turned off in radio settings:While you are at it, I (well mostly my neighbors) would also like to get rid of the two horn beeps when remote starting the truck.
Thanks, I'll take another look. I did disable the horn on single lock. Kind of ridiculous that they give is those options to silence the horn, and not one for leaving the vehicle.You can disable it, mine was disabled before I left the dealership lot, along with the single lock honk.
Interesting comment on the CO deaths. My old 2015 F150 would shut down if you let it idle for an "excessive" amount of time in park and would show a message as such.Careful what you wish for with not having the three horn honk, because what you just suggested is the other alternative on the table. Within the jobs act, the NHTSA is forced to come up with a solid idea to float to congress about preventing CO deaths with push button start vehicles. NHTSA has been recommending manufacturers come up with some ideas, and some have tried implementing engine shutdown after a certain amount of time. NHTSA isn’t keen on that idea because of circumstances where owners leave pets in the vehicle.
I’m sure whatever they do come up with won’t have to be implemented for a while on new vehicles moving forward, but if they can right now, Ram should definitely make the three horn honk a user selectable feature.
A product of not having an actual key. I'd be very appreciative of the mfr's doing away with keyless start on HD pickups, or at least giving us an option for a key. That would do away with a lot of this Gucci crap that I really don't appreciate. The mfr's can't seem to get it through their heads that many of their HD diesel pickup trucks are used commercially and run over the road just like big trucks, as they continue to load them down with passenger car options. It would be an amazing breath of fresh air if they would just go look at Class 8 trucks (Kenworth, Peterbilt, etc) for ideas of what a truck should look like.but for those that say the engine running should be enough of a reminder you'd be surprised (or maybe not) that the younger generation may not be as attentive/aware. I have several friends with HS age kids that have relayed that their kiddo has left a vehicle running...a couple of them say it's an ongoing issue...one of them left their vehicle running in the school parking lot the entire school day and it ran hot after that...finally had to dump it....their thinking is it's because these kids haven't grown up with having to deal with ignition keys...