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Wow this is surprising. Thank you for sharing. I'm glad I cancelled my Laramie order now
I don't think the "RAM" on the inside grab handles has been in any of the '19+ HDs. My 2020 Limited didn't have it, just a textured chrome-ish insert. My buddies '17 1500 had the "RAM" insert though.
My question is why would you order a 1 ton truck gasser? The only reason to go 3500 is to increase it's towing ability.
What ram is doing is realizing very few people order a 1 ton gasser and most do it to cut cost anyways, hence why the upper level trims exclude it. It's a good business move. The only 3/4 tons that make sense are power wagons. Why not just buy a 1/2 ton, you're going to get similar towing ability. I have no idea why they even build heavy duty trucks with gas engines.
There is still a need for gas HD trucks. In my situation I would be hurting my truck more than it should be if I were to get a diesel. Since it is my daily driver, a 10 minute drive to the grocery store or a 2 minute drive to grab a drink would absolutely destroy that Cummins engine. Plus in a 2500 a Cummins, only gains you 300lbs in towing but you lose over a 1K lbs in payload.
I understand your sentiment here but there is absolutely a use case for gas engines in HD trucks. Most fleet vehicles are now HDs with gassers. Cheaper to maintain, less expensive, and you don't have to worry about emissions systems that hate low speed and long idle sessions. It might not be your use case and that's fine. I also prefer diesel based on my needs but assuming there is no need for any gas engine in any HD truck misses the mark by a lot.
Yeah he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Like he said, he “has no idea.”
I am not in the market for a 2023, but after monitoring this thread for a while, I thought the 6.4L wasn't available in only the Longhorn and Limited. Can other's confirm you should be able to order a Laramie Megacab with Hemi? If so, may want to double-check with your dealer.
What dealer are you working with? I was also under the impression the Hemi was only eliminated in the Longhorn and Limited trims.
According to the Ram ordering guide and the Ramtrucks website, the V8 can be purchased with the Laramie. Strange you are getting conflicting info.
Like others said, fleet vehicles are used as HD gassers, which wasn't my thought process since we aren't discussing fleet here, hence the lower end models still being sold. You can't get a mega cab with GMC or Chevy either. It's literally a business decision. They aren't selling enough high trim gassers, hence why offer them. All in all I stand by what I said
I am literally trying to buy one of these trucks right now, so it is more than just fleet orders. There are others that don't need/want a diesel. I understand you think it is pointless, I get the argument. The business decision doesn't make sense if they are going to still offer it in the big horn. It doesn't cost Ram any additional money to throw it into a laramie versus a big horn, especially mid model year. My guess is it has more to do with the phasing out of the V8 engines completely (moving to the TT v6?) and limiting supply build up for when they are fully eliminated.
