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Automatic Regen too often

We've been getting spurts of rain so the mornings have been horribly humid - Yesterday morning on the way into the city to get my meds from the specialty pharmacy it went from nada on the DPF gauge to about 40% - iDash showed 68% from ~30% when I started her. I was on the hwy doing 75 and EGT 1-4 were all over 600 by this point, But it was 96 and about 85% RH, the night before it had cooled off a bit when I went into town to get dinner for the family. Driving it on that cool night and then again the next morning warm and humid as hell - truck clearly didn't like it. Eventually it burned itself off after a few high boost mashes of the skinny pedal getting back on the hwy and changing farm roads on the way back. Anytime we have a drastic enough change in weather, especially with humidity swings, she does her nonsense - sometimes its just for a bit like yesterday, others for several days afterwards. I've found that driving it more agreessively can help - not like a teenager in a rental, but with some authority where you can spin up the turbo (on ramps, stop lights in 55-60mph zones, etc - Not spinning any tires, but getting some air moving through a hot DPF).

I might give the archoil stuff a try after I run out of HSS EDT. I do notice a difference running the perf dose - especially now that I live further away from the TXLED cutoff line (about 30 miles instead of 100 yards lol). If I want TXLED Diesel I have to go further to get into the city so I'm usually filling up at the Exxon truck stop near by due to their high turnover. Still runs decent, but not as good as fuel from a station in Bexar county straight from the pump and I do actually notice a difference with the EDT. If I'm filling up in the city with TXLED diesel - I really don't notice much of any difference with HSS EDT.
 
I keep browsing the stupid banks site and thinking to myself I should get a PSIG sensor, Temp Sensor, and their airmouse thing - Reconfigure my gauges a bit so I can both gather more data as well as compare the stock sensors to banks sensors in my banks elbow. I'm also tempted by the airmouse since my truck seems the most impacted by certain weather patterns - it would be nice to see if I could nail down exactly what it is.
 
archoil showed up yesterday. On the way to work this morning i filled the tank to full and added 4 oz's to the tank. When i left the station i reset my fuel milage as well. I drove all highway the remaining distance to work at about 70-80mph average.

when i left the gas station, dps 1.jpg


shortly after i got on the highway my dpf went mid way between the middle mark and the first mark. by the time i got to work it had crept down to here.



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when i got fuel, i also took note how long its been since my last regen was. i just reset my trip A each time i see it go into regen on the dash.



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since it got hot out, this is about where it will want to regen. 500-600 miles in . if i make it to 24hours / 1100 miles ill take that as a win. however results me be skewed as im towing my 12000lb camper 2 hours north friday. so it will clear out the dpf anyhow.
 
oledirteh said:
archoil showed up yesterday. On the way to work this morning i filled the tank to full and added 4 oz's to the tank. When i left the station i reset my fuel milage as well. I drove all highway the remaining distance to work at about 70-80mph average.

when i left the gas station, View attachment 74072


shortly after i got on the highway my dpf went mid way between the middle mark and the first mark. by the time i got to work it had crept down to here.



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when i got fuel, i also took note how long its been since my last regen was. i just reset my trip A each time i see it go into regen on the dash.



View attachment 74073



since it got hot out, this is about where it will want to regen. 500-600 miles in . if i make it to 24hours / 1100 miles ill take that as a win. however results me be skewed as im towing my 12000lb camper 2 hours north friday. so it will clear out the dpf anyhow.
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Did you use the cleaner first or just use the daily treatment?
 
Also, to add to my above, winter time, regen takes about 15 miles to complete. Now when it regens in the summer it can often take 45-50 miles and shows 0% on the guage. Now if it dues regen and goes back to 15-20 miles, ill count that as a win for archoil as well. i will report back on it.
 
oledirteh said:
archoil showed up yesterday. On the way to work this morning i filled the tank to full and added 4 oz's to the tank. When i left the station i reset my fuel milage as well. I drove all highway the remaining distance to work at about 70-80mph average.

when i left the gas station, View attachment 74072


shortly after i got on the highway my dpf went mid way between the middle mark and the first mark. by the time i got to work it had crept down to here.



View attachment 74074



when i got fuel, i also took note how long its been since my last regen was. i just reset my trip A each time i see it go into regen on the dash.



View attachment 74073



since it got hot out, this is about where it will want to regen. 500-600 miles in . if i make it to 24hours / 1100 miles ill take that as a win. however results me be skewed as im towing my 12000lb camper 2 hours north friday. so it will clear out the dpf anyhow.
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Am I understanding this right, that your truck will still go into soot-load based regeneration even while towing continuously?
 
oledirteh said:
I am running this,

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I was running the hot shots EDT every other tank of fuel so i just went to this
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I haven’t made it to the treatment yet, I just used the cleaner. I’m letting my fuel get low, so in the next day or so I’ll use it so I can have just the treatment in my tank. I want to see if it still passively regens as easy with just the treatment and not the cleaner in there. I will update.
 
mbarber84 said:
So just a quick update:

I added the archoil fuel system cleaner to a this current tank of fuel a week or two ago. The truck went into regeneration shortly after. I’m now 276 miles since last regeneration and the DPF gauge on the instrument cluster is still showing 0%. That’s the furthest I’ve gone without any level going up on that dash. On the iDash, I’m seeing consistently higher EGT’s across sensors 1, 2, and 3. Not dangerously high, but high enough to have a positive impact on passive regeneration. DPF % REG is remaining lower, and not climbing as fast as it did while using the hotshots extreme additive. I’ve noted that, with the archoil in the fuel, EGT 3 is sustaining periods of 660°F for longer bursts, and climbing into the 700°F range as well. I didn’t see this with the hotshots. I don’t want to draw too many conclusions as yet, but it definitely does look like the archoil is performing as advertised. I’ll report back as i continue to monitor. I’ve been data logging as well.
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I was curious about the EGTs. Good information.
 
mbarber84 said:
Am I understanding this right, that your truck will still go into soot-load based regeneration even while towing continuously?
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No sir, from my observation it has never gone into a soot load regen when i have towed. However i have gone into a 24hr regen when towing. Last i checked, i have 18000 miles of towing on this truck.
 
Just having a thought on some research I've been doing. First off this is only my second diesel (1st being a GDE tuned ecodiesel). Could subpar CCV filters cause excessive regens? My truck still has the factory one installed, but I've been reading many diesel forums (TDI, powerstroke, duramax) and it seems some claim a bad CCV can cause inefficient combustion.

I am like many others in that I believe the factory tune has bugs, to say the least. However I'm curious from the more seasoned guys on here.

Also good info on the archoil. I have ordered the full kit - system cleaner, and diesel treatment for that fateful day i get my truck back. Whenever that is....
 
@RamCares I was told today by a dealership service tech that there was an engineering change in the newer model Ram's that made them regen more frequently and that regens every 100 miles was normal when not under any load (even if highway miles). Could you clarify this for everyone? Seems to be that a lot of people (myself included) on these forums think that a regen every 100 miles would be damaging to the oil viscosity as well as the dpf longevity. Why did Ram decide to start regenning these trucks more often? 100 regens per oil change seems like quite a bit to me.
 
TomTom said:
@RamCares I was told today by a dealership service tech that there was an engineering change in the newer model Ram's that made them regen more frequently and that regens every 100 miles was normal when not under any load (even if highway miles). Could you clarify this for everyone? Seems to be that a lot of people (myself included) on these forums think that a regen every 100 miles would be damaging to the oil viscosity as well as the dpf longevity. Why did Ram decide to start regenning these trucks more often? 100 regens per oil change seems like quite a bit to me.
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Sounds like a dealership service tech engaging in nonsense and fallacy.
 
TomTom said:
I can’t imagine techs are free to lie to customers just because they don’t want to do the work….that wouldn’t make sense?
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I can assure you that a significant majority of the dealer service techs aren’t sufficiently trained, experienced, or knowledgeable about how these trucks operate. Especially when it comes to emissions system issues.

There has been, and still is, no “update” or “engineering revision” that makes it acceptable for a truck to regenerate every 100 miles. The only two scenarios that allow that to happen are either A) severely poor duty cycle and operation by the owner, or B) a malfunction of one or more systems on the truck.

Most techs do not want to work on these trucks specifically because of the pay structure FCA uses for warranty work. (Which is half or less what it would be)
 
mbarber84 said:
I can assure you that a significant majority of the dealer service techs aren’t sufficiently trained, experienced, or knowledgeable about how these trucks operate. Especially when it comes to emissions system issues.

There has been, and still is, no “update” or “engineering revision” that makes it acceptable for a truck to regenerate every 100 miles. The only two scenarios that allow that to happen are either A) severely poor duty cycle and operation by the owner, or B) a malfunction of one or more systems on the truck.

Most techs do not want to work on these trucks specifically because of the pay structure FCA uses for warranty work. (Which is half or less what it would be)
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Would you expect @RamCares to address this issue then? If there are techs who aren’t trained and won’t address the issues with the truck, what are we supposed to do?
 
TomTom said:
Would you expect @RamCares to address this issue then? If there are techs who aren’t trained and won’t address the issues with the truck, what are we supposed to do?
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No, I would not.
Please stop tagging them in such a manner.
If you need assistance, please reach out to them directly and relay your issue / concerns. Or post a specific concern / issue in the appropriate section of the forums here and ask for specific assistance.
 
mbarber84 said:
I can assure you that a significant majority of the dealer service techs aren’t sufficiently trained, experienced, or knowledgeable about how these trucks operate. Especially when it comes to emissions system issues.

There has been, and still is, no “update” or “engineering revision” that makes it acceptable for a truck to regenerate every 100 miles. The only two scenarios that allow that to happen are either A) severely poor duty cycle and operation by the owner, or B) a malfunction of one or more systems on the truck.

Most techs do not want to work on these trucks specifically because of the pay structure FCA uses for warranty work. (Which is half or less what it would be)
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Evidence of this was the level 3 tech (supposedly most trained....) at my local dealer saying my oil level looked fine despite being clearly way above the safe hatched area
 
TomTom said:
Would you expect @RamCares to address this issue then? If there are techs who aren’t trained and won’t address the issues with the truck, what are we supposed to do?
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Ram cares is purely a customer relations office. They expedite parts if there's a need, help you get you a rental if you qualify, etc. I'm not saying they don't know anything, but they are not mechanics or techs.
 
22PearlRamMegaHD said:
Ram cares is purely a customer relations office. They expedite parts if there's a need, help you get you a rental if you qualify, etc. I'm not saying they don't know anything, but they are not mechanics or techs.
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I’ve seen them reply to posts here….why are not supposed to tag them? I don’t understand the rules I guess?
 
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