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Automatic Regen too often

56ram2500 said:
I have to disagree with using Blackstone being you can get better UOA testing an cheaper by using either Fleetguard or even the one from Amsoil
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CC2525 Kit?

Had to look it up as I've never used them. Also curious in what way it's better?
 
22PearlRamMegaHD said:
CC2525 Kit?

Had to look it up as I've never used them. Also curious in what way it's better?
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The lab Cummins uses superior equipment compared to what Blackstone has, they also use GC to test fuel in oil an not flash point, they are more knowledgeable and you also get TBN at no extra cost. I would love to see FCA state that a Cummins approved lab does not know how to properly test oil samples or are not reliable, example when I did a quick UOA I used Blackstone while waiting for more Fleetguard kit to arrive, my the dealer ignored the Blackstone report, but once I put a Fleetguard UOA in front of then they knew they no longer had any excuse to ignore what it reported about fuel in the oil... This is JMHO
 
56ram2500 said:
The lab Cummins uses superior equipment compared to what Blackstone has, they also use GC to test fuel in oil an not flash point, they are more knowledgeable and you also get TBN at no extra cost. I would love to see FCA state that a Cummins approved lab does not know how to properly test oil samples or are not reliable, example when I did a quick UOA I used Blackstone while waiting for more Fleetguard kit to arrive, my the dealer ignored the Blackstone report, but once I put a Fleetguard UOA in front of then they knew they no longer had any excuse to ignore what it reported about fuel in the oil... This is JMHO
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Thank you sir!
 
Archoil went into a fresh tank of fuel tonight IMG_6845.jpeg

My DPF % REG is sitting at 97% on the iDash so it’ll go into regeneration tomorrow. I’m seeing pretty rapid rises in that PID, sometimes so fast it doesn’t even seem plausible in reality. If the truck is running that “dirty” there would have to be significant excessive fuel or lack of air issue. Definitely lends more credibility to the sensor / programming theory being at fault for these frequent regenerations. I’m currently at 239 miles and about 6 engine hours since the last active regen cycle completed. Itll be in regen tomorrow before reaching 300 miles, so my frequency is definitely getting worse. 474,496,331, and this one likely to be sub-300. 14, 11, 8, and now likely about 6 hours.

I took some time to do some investigating in the engine bay. Wanted to inspect the MAP sensor. As suspected it was soot-laden. I cleaned as best I could with CRC MAF sensor cleaner, however a lot of the soot remained. I didn’t want to attempt any physical contact with the sensor, so just used the spray as best I could and then reinstalled. No noticeable change in performance. IMG_6832.jpeg
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The IAT sensor was clean and looked like new. I elected not to mess with the MAF, as I didn’t have the time to do a relearn drive cycle if it started to cause issues. In talking with some really good Ram techs, my truck has the MAF that they’ve been changing out for the newer one.
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Units said:
So, is your engine oil just above the full hash mark and that above it is just oil dragging through the dipstick tube or are you way over full?
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I read it as just above the full. I think the other is just residual in the tube.
 
mbarber84 said:
Oh sorry I forgot to mention that. I’m at 45,500 miles. The cleaner I used didn’t really impress me. The soot really didn’t come off as I expected it too.
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Wonder if a soak in break free would help without messing up the sensor. It should be impervious to nearly anything chemical. I've seen (online) some soak them in non-chlorinated brake kleen.
 
Brutal_HO said:
Wonder if a soak in break free would help without messing up the sensor. It should be impervious to nearly anything chemical. I've seen (online) some soak them in non-chlorinated brake kleen.
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I know these trucks are probably different, but I had the eco diesel before this. Prior to the diet she went on, I visited forums and was told not to use anything but MAF cleaner. With thay said, prior to the delete I had a tune from GDE and so my MAP was clean every time I checked it - which was at each oil change. Sold the truck with 102k on the odometer
 

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Just had my worst performing regen to date - it has warmed up here significantly and we are in the 70s-80s every day. The truck went from 0 to ~45% full in about 200 miles and then went into regen today when I was driving to put new tires on. I wasnt able to complete the regen in one go as I was pressed for time to drop the truck off.

Overall it took about 45 mins for the regen to complete (about 15 mins longer than any regen prior to this one.)

I checked the oil last night and its just slightly over "full" but it has been that way since the last oil change (about 8k miles ago) when I slightly overfilled it. It doesnt look like its making too much oil from the regens, its just sooting up way more frequently than during the first 20k miles/when the weather is cold.

Ill keep an eye on this but every regen brings me closer to a diet.
 
tchur1 said:
Just had my worst performing regen to date - it has warmed up here significantly and we are in the 70s-80s every day. The truck went from 0 to ~45% full in about 200 miles and then went into regen today when I was driving to put new tires on. I wasnt able to complete the regen in one go as I was pressed for time to drop the truck off.

Overall it took about 45 mins for the regen to complete (about 15 mins longer than any regen prior to this one.)

I checked the oil last night and its just slightly over "full" but it has been that way since the last oil change (about 8k miles ago) when I slightly overfilled it. It doesnt look like its making too much oil from the regens, its just sooting up way more frequently than during the first 20k miles/when the weather is cold.

Ill keep an eye on this but every regen brings me closer to a diet.
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Mine has also gotten worse with the warmer weather. I would love to put the truck in a diet, but my concern is that won’t solve anything, it just removes the symptom that is signaling an issue. Unless the issue is in the DPF.
 
TomTom said:
Mine has also gotten worse with the warmer weather. I would love to put the truck in a diet, but my concern is that won’t solve anything, it just removes the symptom that is signaling an issue. Unless the issue is in the DPF.
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This is my concern as well. Until the sickness causing the symptoms is resolved....it's a bandaid over a bullet wound
 
TomTom said:
Mine has also gotten worse with the warmer weather. I would love to put the truck in a diet, but my concern is that won’t solve anything, it just removes the symptom that is signaling an issue. Unless the issue is in the DPF.
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I disagree - the issue seems to stem from an issue within the emissions system, whether its software or hardware. Eliminate the need to regen and it seems to me that you would be eliminating the root issue. I could be looking at it incorrectly though.
 
tchur1 said:
I disagree - the issue seems to stem from an issue within the emissions system, whether its software or hardware. Eliminate the need to regen and it seems to me that you would be eliminating the root issue. I could be looking at it incorrectly though.
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I agree. I think in some cases it may be something else. But for the most part it’s emissions, wether programming or the components themselves.
 
22PearlRamMegaHD said:
This is my concern as well. Until the sickness causing the symptoms is resolved....it's a bandaid over a bullet wound
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The sickness of all modern diesels are emissions system in general. By deleting your vehicle your truck will never regen again and you will not have to worry about excessive fuel diluting your oil.
 
mbarber84 said:
Oh and this is my current oil level at roughly 10k miles. Truck sat overnight. It sits slightly nose-down on the driveway. View attachment 73684
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Temp and pressure is all that sensor has to report, one would think it could be pretty dirty and still do that especially if the boost gauge appears to be working normally.

I'd love to see a stock with delete truck run and observe how dirty the exhaust is, which could help determine if it's an engine tuning issue or an emissions issue (software or hardware).
 
Riddick said:
The sickness of all modern diesels are emissions system in general. By deleting your vehicle your truck will never regen again and you will not have to worry about excessive fuel diluting your oil.
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Maybe, maybe not. My truck was regening every 20-25 miles. No CEL, bore scope of DPF when it registered 48% full (going into a regen). A manual cleaning showed 4.2 grams of soot with 42 grams being the regen point. And I have about a gallon of diesel in my oil - which will be confirmed as soon as I get the truck back from the dealer, change the oil, and send in the Fleetguard UOA. Because unfortunately I was told they don't do oil changes even if the dilution is caused by a failed part. With that said, they replaced the MAF yesterday, and are doing the computer relearn today followed by a full on test drive to see if the DPF registers full again too early. I'll definitely keep everyone on here posted as I learn more, but I've attached my dipatick photo from just before taking it to the dealer
 

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I could see my issue being pressure differential sensors, bad injectors and or pump, or the MAF. However, the amount of oil I'm "making" leads me to think injectors or pump or both. I have a hard time thinking in less then 2800 miles on my oil change that I'd have that much diesel in my oil just due to the regen process
 
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