Soft Brakes - weak brakes - sponge brakes 2021 3500 - merged threads

[Birton]

I now have 600miles on my new 2021 3500 HO Long Bed. In general I'm extremely happy BUT the brakes seem a bit soft? i.e. have to push the peddle approx. halfway to start feeling any action.

The brakes in my previous 2008 3500 SO Short bed seemed more aggressive.

Is this normal for the new trucks?

Probably needs to go back to the dealer to check it out.

TIA

 

[farmallboy]

5300 miles on my 15 month old truck. I have always felt mine we're too soft.......

 

[KnuckleHead]

5300 miles on my 15 month old truck. I have always felt mine we're too soft.......

Ditto with 2500 miles

 

[Cseybert]

Ditto on 2019 CTD 2500

 

[farmallboy]

As a follow up. I'll say my trade in 03 Silverado was much more firm. It was about the only thing it did right when I traded haha. But

Yeah. Brakes have always dissatisfied me on this truck. Before I started working from home, I drove the daily all week and then truck on weekends. Differences in brakes from a Prius to a 2500 ram had me running a couple stop signs. I have tried to transition into more of a grandpa drive style now.

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

Mine are ok.
here is proof.

 

[MegaDave]

I notified that too on my 19 2500. You really have to step on them. I figured just something I have to get used to. Anyone replace the pads and see a large improvement?


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[Cpsram21]

To me my 2020 3500 and my 2021 3500 are soft at the pedal compared to my 2006 2500 duramax. But i think its just all the safety power assist stuff these new trucks have on them because i had a car pull out in front of me the other day and i jumped on the brakes hard and it stopped in a very short distance . I would say even though this weighs more then my 2500 gmc it stopped way quicker then the gmc.

 

[Brutal_HO]

^^ He's right ^^

They all "feel" soft. It's all the Nanny stuff.




ETA: A related post from another conversation

Many owners complain about a soft brake pedal feel on the HD's. That said, I know that speed of pedal application increases the perceived and actual stopping power.

Something I've also noticed is that when ACC is running, using the brake always seems to result in an extremely stiff pedal feel.

Is there something going on there like increased pressure in the hydro assist when ACC is active?

Yes, when ACC is active, the DASM requests the abs module to prefill the brakes, so the pads are closer to the rotors for quick response time.

https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?...-operation-from-2019-to-2022.7579/post-142134

 

[Brutal_HO]

As a follow up. I'll say my trade in 03 Silverado was much more firm. It was about the only thing it did right when I traded haha. But

Yeah. Brakes have always dissatisfied me on this truck. Before I started working from home, I drove the daily all week and then truck on weekends. Differences in brakes from a Prius to a 2500 ram had me running a couple stop signs. I have tried to transition into more of a grandpa drive style now.

A 3,000lb econobox vs a 8,000 HD truck.

 

[farmallboy]

A 3,000lb econobox vs a 8,000 HD truck.

Lol. Well yes.

 

[farmallboy]

Mine are ok.
here is proof.
View attachment 15902

I'm sorry but this just made my day!

Side note this was my first new truck. I have found so many of those blue chalk marks lol. And when I ran coax for my ham radio.....I found an actual chalk marker under a rear kick plate lol

 

[Nd79]

I'm sorry but this just made my day!

Side note this was my first new truck. I have found so many of those blue chalk marks lol. And when I ran coax for my ham radio.....I found an actual chalk marker under a rear kick plate lol

Haha, I keep finding new "blue marks" on mine as well. My brakes I've noticed are softer feeling than our older 3500 as well, but I have got used to them already and they always stop well. It's good to know why!

 

[THC1]

I have a 21 Laramie Crew 4x4 w/ 4:10 gears. I immediately noticed the brakes respond differently on this vehicle coming from my GMC HD 1500. It just seems like I have to use a lot of pedal. Maybe it's just the larger size of the truck v. my previous experience. This is my first 3/4 ton. Hopefully it's just me but thought I would post for opinions from others.

 

[Greenhills]

Its normal. This truck weighs almost 3,000 lbs more than your GMC. Sometime when your on an empty road, stomp on the brakes. You will find it stops as quickly as you would expect. The brake pedal just has a vague feeling and requires more pedal to accomplish the same result.

 

[revjvegas]

Glad it's not just me
I went from a F150 to this 2500 4x4 and my first thought was you really have to put the pressure down to get that sucker to stop. Kinda figured it was just going to be a learning curve getting used to a heavier truck.

 

[THC1]

Happy to hear! I'm about to take off on my maiden voyage pulling 8500lbs.

 

[Greenhills]

Glad it's not just me
I went from a F150 to this 2500 4x4 and my first thought was you really have to put the pressure down to get that sucker to stop. Kinda figured it was just going to be a learning curve getting used to a heavier truck.

Yeah, you really do need alot more force to achieve the same result. The end result is absolutely there though. After you drive it for a few thousand miles, you get used too it. That being said, I do find myself coming in a little hot to a stop sometimes haha.

 

[jerryw1000]

On my 2500 Hemi I had a pretty firm pedal when I got it but after they had to replace the ABS pump and module it feels a bit soft and has more travel.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Normal for a 3/4-1 ton.... when im driving my wife's car the first time i go to hit the brakes i get quickly reminded to ease up on the pressure lol