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We can pass the emissions tests while deleted... its the “coal rollers” that triggered the epa we have a different variation up here in Canada bit same premise just less consequences
Maybe in Canada. Any state in the USA that employs diesel smog testing will not pass a deleted vehicle because its emissions equipment has been removed.
What isn’t illegal, to the gods that be, in gov. these days?
Haven’t been to commifornia since 1969, and no plans to return.
I have no idea. I just know it's there and what it does. I believe it started with 2016s but not certain.
Wally world for me too. Easy to read dates on the jugs. At $6.99 or less for 2.5 gallons the price is great. I also check to make sure it is sealed partly for contaminants but more so for leaks. I can't imagine someone doing a water scam on a $6.99 jug though.
Just to let you guys know , for anybody that has several rigs running DEF like we do on our farm you can get it bulk. We have a 330 gallon tote and i have a 55 gallon drum at home with a pump. We pay $1.45/gallon for ours and with the money saved over the years at the farm i bought a electric pump for my house drum now also. They are spendy because of the special non corrosive plastic parts and stainless steel but it takes 2 minutes to fill my tank now. manual pumps are around a $100 electric are $500 but we have had the one at the farm for 8 years now and it never has missed a beat. Just a thought for someone with a garage or shop they could keep it in they will enjoy filling for a lot less and whenever they want instead of searching for a station that carries it. I bought my first 55 gallon drum For $117 full and now i own it so i can get it filled by most bulk fuel companies or just run it to the farm and fill it from our 330 gallon tote. And by the way to the original question of quality of different brands , our fuel supplier said they get the same stuff in 1,2.5, 5 gallon jugs that is in 55 gallon and 330 gallon tote and it all is exactly the same straight from the manufacturer' s mouth . Another words they are just charging you more for the packaging the product is the same .
From what i was told its not a quality sensor , it is a water sensor so if they got the mix of urea and deionized water wrong it tells the computer because it can freeze up without enough urea in it . The ratio is 32.5% urea and 67.5% deionized water . We use lots of urea fertilizer on the farm and at less then 32% it will freeze in our tanks and much higher then 35% it will salt out. So yes DEF is a highly refined urea fertilizer and deionized water so it doesn't plug the filter and injectors up in the system used to treat the exhaust on our trucks.
Hate to say it but they would have to prove without a doubt that the def is what caused the failure otherwise its just them scaring customers to buy there products. We have been using bulk def from our well known oil company for 8 years and never had a failure in any tractor or truck we use it in. Its the same as them telling you your diesel caused a cp4 failure , without a lab test proving it from a direct sample out of your truck they have zero proof ! I must have a better dealer then you because when i had a def pump failure 3 years ago there was no questions about where i purchase my def . They changed the pump and filter and said it was a common failure.
I hear what you are saying, but I was leasing my trucks for the past six years from Enterprise Truck... so those Agents are also looking for a scapegoat and the dealer gives them all the ammo they need to say "it's your fault" and put you on a "Do Not Rent" list should you disagree with their determination of fault. I am not saying it is right or wrong, just do not give them any reason to doubt. The funny thing in this exact instance... my DEF pump failure was right after, within 150 miles of buying bulk DEF for the first time at a pump in California. By the time I made it to Northern Cali, it was triggered and a freaking nightmare to get to Portland, Oregon where I was renting my trucks from. I got the whole mileage countdown and the works til the truck simply wouldn't move.
