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Adaptive Steering System - Adjustment

Smittydog27

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It should be adjustable just like the Ram no?

I keep mine turned to the lowest setting.
I believe it is set to mid level, but she doesn’t like it -and she drives it more than me. I don’t like it that much either. But will try lower setting at some point.
 

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I usually have LaneSense on but I didn't like it when it was raining. It made it feel as if I had hydroplaning so I turned it off.

BTW- It was touched on before. Ram does not use "Adaptive Steering" in the owner's manual. The manual refers to "Adaptive Cruise Control", "LaneSense" and "Electric Power Steering". Adaptive Crusie Control is unrelated. LaneSense can be adjusted or just turned off. The electric power steering has no adjustment but is supposed to be speed-sensitive.
 

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BTW- It was touched on before. Ram does not use "Adaptive Steering" in the owner's manual. The manual refers to "Adaptive Cruise Control", "LaneSense" and "Electric Power Steering". Adaptive Crusie Control is unrelated. LaneSense can be adjusted or just turned off. The electric power steering has no adjustment but is supposed to be speed-sensitive.
Correct- their name for it is LaneSense Lane Departure Warning Plus, described as “includes adaptive steering system”. But...since adaptive steering is inherent to the torque overlay module necessary to make lane sense work, it’s almost like saying the vehicle includes wheels and tires.
 

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Correct- their name for it is LaneSense Lane Departure Warning Plus, described as “includes adaptive steering system”. But...since adaptive steering is inherent to the torque overlay module necessary to make lane sense work, it’s almost like saying the vehicle includes wheels and tires.
Where did you find that? I searched every case of Steering in the pdf manual and adaptive was never used.
 

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Where did you find that? I searched every case of Steering in the pdf manual and adaptive was never used.
It’s the sale brochure description of the sales code.
 

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Brewbud come on man, there’s a few of us in here that could probably write the FCA technical training guides on these trucks with our experience and as one of them I am telling you it is a fact the trucks with FCA sales order guide code “SJE” indeed do have adaptive steering and all that the term implies not just electro hydraulic steering.
 

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Brewbud come on man, there’s a few of us in here that could probably write the FCA technical training guides on these trucks with our experience and as one of them I am telling you it is a fact the trucks with FCA sales order guide code “SJE” indeed do have adaptive steering and all that the term implies not just electro hydraulic steering.
Haha..... explains why there was no confusion in the thread. Which is the reason I mentioned it. And I'll wait for your version of the manual, cus adaptive steer isn't mentioned in mine
 

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Brewbud, I don’t really see the humor in it, what exactly are you trying to convey to help the op or get answered for yourself? You are giving out false information that is easily verified via FCA technical docs and also the publicly available 2021 sales order guide for Ram heavy duty trucks, dig deeper “bud” and you just might change your mind, cheers!
 

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I am not giving out false information. I stated what the manual says. Jimmy mentioned it is in the sales docs. I am fine with that. But you can see some were referring to LaneSense (adjustable settings are in App menu) and others, like the OP, to the overall electrically power-assisted steering (which is not adjustable).
 

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Something I challenge you to think about, just because something is not “stated in the manual” and like jimmy said, is a technical detail that is implied here doesn’t mean the truck does not utilize adaptive steering. It also has absolutely nothing to do with a salesperson as referenced above, if you understood how product planning and engineering worked within an automotive oem, you would know the folks that update and tech/fact check the owners manuals are unfortunately at times the last to know of product changes and or updates. FCA product planing and engineers knew these trucks would have adaptive steering implemented long before any salesperson could even begin to think about what or how it affected the HD truck platform. Also a little technical FYI, the adaptive/electro hydraulic steering is “adjustable” on these trucks, just not via the typical user/driver interface within the truck. The aforementioned being a very similar situation to the owners manual not containing all of the detailed information on the system.

Either way at the end of day, the system / feature is great and a true improvement over how these trucks used to drive. If you don’t want the auto lane corrections happening simply turn lanesense off and you will still have your adaptive/electro hydraulic steering to use as you please.
 

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I have a love-hate relationship with the Lane Sense. I have a habit of moving toward the fog line when approaching traffic on a two-lane highway, mostly due to towing a wide equipment trailer. I've noticed over the past several years that almost all approaching traffic does the same, at least here in MN. Not sure if out of courtesy or an acknowledgement. I use it mostly on the interstate when I tend to get more complacent over the long miles. I am glad RAM had enough foresight to add a physical switch to toggle between off and on.
 

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Well, if someone can figure out what is needed to add the adaptive steering to the truck, I would love to know (cause I would do it if possible).

Thanks all....
 

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Something I challenge you to think about, just because something is not “stated in the manual” and like jimmy said, is a technical detail that is implied here doesn’t mean the truck does not utilize adaptive steering. It also has absolutely nothing to do with a salesperson as referenced above, if you understood how product planning and engineering worked within an automotive oem, you would know the folks that update and tech/fact check the owners manuals are unfortunately at times the last to know of product changes and or updates. FCA product planing and engineers knew these trucks would have adaptive steering implemented long before any salesperson could even begin to think about what or how it affected the HD truck platform. Also a little technical FYI, the adaptive/electro hydraulic steering is “adjustable” on these trucks, just not via the typical user/driver interface within the truck. The aforementioned being a very similar situation to the owners manual not containing all of the detailed information on the system.

Either way at the end of day, the system / feature is great and a true improvement over how these trucks used to drive. If you don’t want the auto lane corrections happening simply turn lanesense off and you will still have your adaptive/electro hydraulic steering to use as you please.

I like the system except in the rain. My reply was because of the wording used had already caused confusion in the post. Carry on.
 

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Well, if someone can figure out what is needed to add the adaptive steering to the truck, I would love to know (cause I would do it if possible).

Thanks all....
You would actually be adding lane sense to the truck, with adaptive steering being the byproduct. You can’t do it the other way around. You’ll need the new gearbox with the torque overlay module, and, depending on which radio you have, the 12” screen with the button, or the 8.4 radio bezel with button. If you don’t already have adaptive cruise or forward collision warning, you’ll also need the driver assist module, and a new windshield. AlfaOBD can enable all the lane sense settings, but it can’t perform the driver assist module calibration.
 

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I have a 2020 2500 Diesel Crew 4x4 with Adaptive Steering. While I like the ease with which the truck steers compared to my 2015 Ram 1500 the steering is much looser at highway speeds. The 1500 was solid at highway speeds, no adjustments required to keep it running straight. With the 2020 2500 I find it more difficult to keep the truck running in a straight line as any steering wheel movement requires counter adjustment.

Anyone know if this steering system can be adjusted or "tightened" a bit?
Hi there @chumes, we are sorry to hear that you are experiencing steering concerns with your truck! If at any point you decide to address this with your Ram dealer, our team is just a private message away and more than willing to escalate a case on your behalf to a specialist for further support through that process.

Kathryn
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I sent my question in the general discussion, I don't much care how my brand new 300 mile 3500 Laramie truck steers at freeway speeds.
And I had considered that maybe the alignment may be off.
As I read, this may be an ongoing complaint.
If there is a way to tighten (or at least get it to hold its track) I would be interested to know.
Saltman suggests that it can be adjusted, also suggests that I cant do it. More info please.
Thanks, Jack
 

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I, too, came from a 2016 Ram 1500 (Outdoorsman) to a 2021 2500 Laramie ( loaded). The steering is quite different. Left the dealership with between 85 and 90 psi in the four tires, got home(460 miles later) and checked the driver's door and low and behold, supposed to be 60 psi on all 4. Made the adjustments, Took to my dealer and had the 4 wheel alignment. Much better, but still not as good as the 2016 Ram 1500 on highways. You have to stay mindful of it at all times. I'm thinking steering box and the difference in the Limited slip gears in the rear end, and possibly the tires?
 

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After some thought I am thinking it drives like it could use more caster.
 

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