6.7 Engine Air Filter Confusion

[mbarber84]

Just bought this today for $44.95 CA . It sure looks like the real thing, right color, right number, no glue strips. Edit: Purchase at the Chrysler dealer in Brampton Ontario

That is the real thing.
Looks like the 53034051AB filters are becoming more readily available. (Wondering if Mopar signed some sort of exclusivity agreement for whichever manufacturer / factory is making that filter)

 

[unclelala]

That is the real thing.
Looks like the 53034051AB filters are becoming more readily available. (Wondering if Mopar signed some sort of exclusivity agreement for whichever manufacturer / factory is making that filter)

I asked the parts guy whats going on with these filters and all he had to say was they were back order and we just got a few in stock this week.

 

[mbarber84]

I asked the parts guy whats going on with these filters and all he had to say was they were back order and we just got a few in stock this week.

Yeah, I remember many months ago speaking with my dealership, those 53034051AB’s were showing 500+ on backorder with no available eta. Fast forward to today, I’m seeing them more and more. At the same time, all the aftermarket filters now have glue strips and are coming out of Mexico. Wondering if one of the plants in the USA is churning them out specifically for Mopar now?

 

[Fenderltd]

Brand New member here, but I have a 2021 Ram 2500 and I have battled the P0299 code for over 30,000 miles. Its on it's off, dealer reset, and repeat these steps over and over... I have always used the Mopar filters, and never paid attention to if they had glue or not. My order history shows I have always bought the AB filter. Currently have a check engine light on for turbo underboost, I checked the last filter I put in. It's model #53034051AB with two glue strips. I bought another Mopar 53034051ab and this does not have glue strips, so I am really puzzled. The printing on the outside looks different two, but what a cluster just trying to get the proper Air Filter for these trucks. It's worth nothing I bought this last one from Ebay as my local dealer wants $93.27 for the air filter. Link for the one I bought on ebay-

What's strange is it looks like there are spots where the glue should be, but there is no glue...

 

[mbarber84]

Brand New member here, but I have a 2021 Ram 2500 and I have battled the P0299 code for over 30,000 miles. Its on it's off, dealer reset, and repeat these steps over and over... I have always used the Mopar filters, and never paid attention to if they had glue or not. My order history shows I have always bought the AB filter. Currently have a check engine light on for turbo underboost, I checked the last filter I put in. It's model #53034051AB with two glue strips. I bought another Mopar 53034051ab and this does not have glue strips, so I am really puzzled. The printing on the outside looks different two, but what a cluster just trying to get the proper Air Filter for these trucks. It's worth nothing I bought this last one from Ebay as my local dealer wants $93.27 for the air filter. Link for the one I bought on ebay-

What's strange is it looks like there are spots where the glue should be, but there is no glue...

All of the filters you posted are NOT legitimate Mopar 53034051AB filters.

Those are imitation or “fake” filters that have been popping up at various vendors. They’re manufactured overseas and made to look like the real thing, but they are not. They will absolutely cause issues (P0299 and P2459)

Where did you buy these filters?
(I’m guessing Amazon or eBay?)

 

[Fenderltd]

All of the filters you posted are NOT legitimate Mopar 53034051AB filters.

Those are imitation or “fake” filters that have been popping up at various vendors. They’re manufactured overseas and made to look like the real thing, but they are not. They will absolutely cause issues (P0299 and P2459)

Where did you buy these filters?
(I’m guessing Amazon or eBay?)

Can you show me the real one? Guess I need to go by the 93 dollar one.

 

[Fenderltd]

All of the filters you posted are NOT legitimate Mopar 53034051AB filters.

Those are imitation or “fake” filters that have been popping up at various vendors. They’re manufactured overseas and made to look like the real thing, but they are not. They will absolutely cause issues (P0299 and P2459)

Where did you buy these filters?
(I’m guessing Amazon or eBay?)

One from Amazon, one was eBay.

 

[Brutal_HO]

Can you show me the real one? Guess I need to go by the 93 dollar one.

genos garage
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Fleetguard AF27684 2007.5-2024 Dodge Ram 6.7L Cummins Air Filter

Fleetguard AF27684 Cummins Filtration replacement air filter with metal panel ensures the proper purified air filtration rates are obtained for long-term engine reliability on the 2007.5 to 2024 model Ram 2500, 3500, 4500, and 5500 series trucks with the 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel is ready for...

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[mbarber84]

Can you show me the real one? Guess I need to go by the 93 dollar one.

 

[mbarber84]

Can you show me the real one? Guess I need to go by the 93 dollar one.

They’re only $39.95 at Geno’s Garage. The real-deal. I wouldn’t pay $90+ for one unless it was an absolute emergency.

 

[baker01]

genos garage
klm performance

Fleetguard AF27684 2007.5-2024 Dodge Ram 6.7L Cummins Air Filter

Fleetguard AF27684 Cummins Filtration replacement air filter with metal panel ensures the proper purified air filtration rates are obtained for long-term engine reliability on the 2007.5 to 2024 model Ram 2500, 3500, 4500, and 5500 series trucks with the 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel is ready for...

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I just noticed that Genos no longer lists the fleetguard af27684 as compatible with the 2019 and up trucks. I wonder if they know something we don't.

 

[Fenderltd]

Thank you so much for the images, I’m going to file a complaint with eBay. My check engine light went off today after the install, which was strange as it’s been for the last week, but as shown in my previous post, the filter I received is just really strange.

 

[JMR62]

Brand New member here, but I have a 2021 Ram 2500 and I have battled the P0299 code for over 30,000 miles. Its on it's off, dealer reset, and repeat these steps over and over... I have always used the Mopar filters, and never paid attention to if they had glue or not. My order history shows I have always bought the AB filter. Currently have a check engine light on for turbo underboost, I checked the last filter I put in. It's model #53034051AB with two glue strips. I bought another Mopar 53034051ab and this does not have glue strips, so I am really puzzled. The printing on the outside looks different two, but what a cluster just trying to get the proper Air Filter for these trucks. It's worth nothing I bought this last one from Ebay as my local dealer wants $93.27 for the air filter. Link for the one I bought on ebay-

What's strange is it looks like there are spots where the glue should be, but there is no glue...

They’re only $39.95 at Geno’s Garage. The real-deal. I wouldn’t pay $90+ for one unless it was an absolute emergency.

Yes, I also got mine at Geno's for the same price. The real ones have 46 pleats. The fake ones that you got online have 52.
I'll bet someone ripped the glue strips off of a bunch of filters so they could make a good sale. They would not be made with the indentions on top of the pleating for no reason.

 

[mbarber84]

I just noticed that Genos no longer lists the fleetguard af27684 as compatible with the 2019 and up trucks. I wonder if they know something we don't.

Genos removed the 2019+ trucks from the AF27684 compatibility because Fleetguard recently decided to switch its source of manufacture for that filter from a plant in the USA to a plant in Mexico. When this change happened, the entire design and manufacture of the filter changed. The new “MX” sourced version has more pleats and glue strips running across them. Due to the uncertainty of whether or not this change in design would have a negative effect on 2019+ trucks. There are a number of Ram-sourced documents suggesting that filters with glue strips may cause P0299 and P2459 DTC’s. Add to that the repeated reports of issues from users, I believe Genos acted in good faith and decided to “pull” them for now. Or at least that’s my take on the situation.

 

[baker01]

Genos removed the 2019+ trucks from the AF27684 compatibility because Fleetguard recently decided to switch its source of manufacture for that filter from a plant in the USA to a plant in Mexico. When this change happened, the entire design and manufacture of the filter changed. The new “MX” sourced version has more pleats and glue strips running across them. Due to the uncertainty of whether or not this change in design would have a negative effect on 2019+ trucks. There are a number of Ram-sourced documents suggesting that filters with glue strips may cause P0299 and P2459 DTC’s. Add to that the repeated reports of issues from users, I believe Genos acted in good faith and decided to “pull” them for now. Or at least that’s my take on the situation. View attachment 68288

Thanks, good to know.

 

[Fenderltd]

Well I messaged the seller and pretty much instantly was issued you a refund.

The seller did say "Dealer and products straight from Mopar do not share the same packaging. "

 

[mbarber84]

Well I messaged the seller and pretty much instantly was issued you a refund.

The seller did say "Dealer and products straight from Mopar do not share the same packaging. "

Amazon and eBay need to start cracking down on the fake filter issue. It’s actually reaching beyond just the mopar filters. I just saw some information that pretty much proves that fake “Cat” filters are now showing up there as well.

 

[el_barto]

FWIW i just saw this on Reddit. He had a WIX/NAPA Gold filter with plastic rear cage(rather than the metal mesh), plastic broke and got sucked into the turbo. Mind you, the intake was packed with snow, so it was sucking hard to get air.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ram_trucks/comments/1afpmt1

 

[mbarber84]

FWIW i just saw this on Reddit. He had a WIX/NAPA Gold filter with plastic rear cage(rather than the metal mesh), plastic broke and got sucked into the turbo. Mind you, the intake was packed with snow, so it was sucking hard to get air.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ram_trucks/comments/1afpmt1

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Yeah that’s what happens when you build a sub par filter. I have actually seen that wix in three formats: the original which was identical to factory Mopar, and then two versions of the “black foam” one (metal mesh and plastic mesh). Not sure if the two black versions come from the same factory or not. I will say that this particular type of failure would have been pretty difficult for any air filter to resist, but the metal backing would have likely remained together as one piece and just folded, whereas the plastic flexed and then subsequently snapped. Either way that’s a hard lesson to learn.

 

[flan]

Must of thrown a code early on that was ignored. Intake sensors are pretty sensitive.