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*Breaking News* 2025 Orders from MARK DODGE **

AnthonyRI said:
I don't see that listed anywhere in the code guide unless I'm just numb in the eyes
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Thank you @AnthonyRI ! We're going to make our decision after two RV shows (15 Jan in Tampa and 23 Jan here in SW Florida). You all seem to have a good rep and I'll give you a shout. Sent a DM too.
 
I don't mind the 6.7 diesel at all, but owning one in CA can be complicated.

When the gasoline version comes out in the megacab, even with the more modest power levels, - that will be just fine for me.
 
AnthonyRI said:
Hear Ye Hear Ye!

Late this afternoon we got the order guides for the 2025 HD Ram lineup!

CODE GUIDES Are what drives the content, price protection, etc. However, not everything in the code guide on day one will actually be able to order on day one. Some times things are delayed, and some times the code guide has items that never happen through an entire model year. For example 2024 code guide had some entire configs that never opened (Bed/Cab/Engine combos) or in the 1500s there were some colors that took 9 months to open.

WEBSITE The build & price will open, eventually, but usually not for at least a few weeks behind code guide. If there is a conflict between code guide and website......code guide wins.

ORDERING SOFTWARE (VOIM) This is where we can actually generate your build sheet (preview or confirmation, once ordered). This is how we find out if an item is available to order or not, at that particular moment. Something closed in VOIM usually overrides it being open in the code guide, unless there's an error or unintended conflict.

DETAILS Right now, the code is what we've got. There have not been any other releases of training materials, pictures, explanations, etc. If you're ordering anything before physically seeing it - you're taking some educated risks. There are going to be some things that we just won't know until they show up, and that can be fun. But don't make assumptions - if you're curious about a specific feature that was in a specific package in years past, it may have moved!

TIMING It's going to be a long haul. While production should start in January, we've already been warned that the roll-out will be staged/paced similar to the Ram 1500s. It may be that not all trims start in January. It may be that January starts production across all trim levels, but only small quantities. It also can be open trim levels but limited which level packages. Or colors. All of these parameters were in play on the 2025 MY for 1500s. Not long ago, our average HD order was taking 5-7 months due to chip/supply issues. Most of this calendar year they were taking more like 2-4 months.

REBATES In the beginning, there will be none. Mostly, because they don't have any cause to update the rebate guide until the first ones ship. Don't bank on 'em in the beginning.

DISCOUNT All 2025 HD Factory Orders through Mark Dodge will be discounted 11% off MSRP - that is straight dealer discount, before any rebates or other qualifiers. Our discount does not conflict with anything else offered by RAM!
All orders subject to $425 Doc Fee, $4 Temp Tags. $1K deposit required to place order (due once you receive all signed paperwork)

Example
MSRP $80,000
Dealer Discount -$8,800
Doc Fee $425
Temp Tags $4
Total before your state's TTL $71,629

OK enough of that banter - here's the link to the code guides - https://sharesync.serverdata.net/us4/s/3KuGcu8kz7upwD4OihvRVW003f24cd

If you're interested in ordering a 2025 HD Ram, we'd love to help. At the moment, what you can do is email us directly at [email protected] and list out what you're looking for. You don't have to write out every code, price, and name - but please be a bit more specific than "fully loaded" We'll run it through the ordering software, get you a price, and work through the answers on any questions together.

Thank you thank you for all of your interest and support and great community here!
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Good afternoon, I went in to my dealer today, one that I have always ordered my trucks with. Lary H Miller in Tucson and went to order a 2025 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn Mega Cab 4x4 with a good amount of optional equipment. They were unable to find on the order sheet Ram Box and Auto Level system along with bed step. Are you aware if Ram has deleted these items from being able to order on the Longhorn? Thanks for any help you could have. I have a 2020 Longhorn with Ram Box and Auto Level and Bed Step find it strange that the 2025 wouldn't have it.
 
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Xflight29 said:
Good afternoon, I went in to my dealer today, one that I have always ordered my trucks with. Lary H Miller in Tucson and went to order a 2025 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn Mega Cab 4x4 with a good amount of optional equipment. They were unable to find on the order sheet Ram Box and Auto Level system along with bed step. Are you aware if Ram has deleted these items from being able to order on the Longhorn? Thanks for any help you could have. I have a 2020 Longhorn with Ram Box and Auto Level and Bed Step find it strange that the 2025 wouldn't have it.
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Email us your list of specs to [email protected] and we'll figure out what can and can't be done, and at what discount!
 
Brutal_HO said:
There is only one option as previously rumored. The HO is gone. The base engine is 430/1075 mated to a ZF Powerline with a column shifter. Grid heater is gone, replaced by glow plugs. Topside oil canister housing and both primary and secondary fuel canisters/filters mounted on the engine. There's a new combo DOC/SCR and EGR system.
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When we first heard of the new inbound ZF 8 speed Powerline I read all that I could find on it. I thought I read that it was an electronic shift only, but maybe that is not the case as you point out the new ZF 8 site will be coming with a column shifter in the Ram HD.

Well, if that is indeed the case as Everton else has circled out, that may be great news for the rest of us because that should mean the possibility of retrofitting a 68RFE with a new ZF8 became that much more viable.
 
AirRyan said:
When we first heard of the new inbound ZF 8 speed Powerline I read all that I could find on it. I thought I read that it was an electronic shift only, but maybe that is not the case as you point out the new ZF 8 site will be coming with a column shifter in the Ram HD.

Well, if that is indeed the case as Everton else has circled out, that may be great news for the rest of us because that should mean the possibility of retrofitting a 68RFE with a new ZF8 became that much more viable.
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Well it's probably still electronic, just on the column.

This could be it? I'll ask my source. (ETA: Not it)

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@mbarber84 pointed this out in this thread:

mbarber84

Post in thread '2025 Ram Heavy Duty To Get New ZF Powerline® 8-Speed'

Brutal_HO said:
Rental car this week, Hyundai Sonata, has a little stubby column "shifter" that just twists back and forth. Nearly as dumb as some of the dash mounted push buttons or levers like Lincoln and anything else with a mini-van-ish sloped dash. Only saving grace is it self parks when you push the ignition button.

Personally, I wouldn't really have a problem with the current knob setup, have used it on some rentals and it does just fine. I would miss the tactile feedback from the leather column shift knob...
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Check out the column shifter PACCAR is using in the trucks equipped with the TX-8...
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Brutal_HO said:
Source indicates it is a cable actuated shifter.
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Very interesting. Theoretically, that should mean a ZF 8 PowerLine swap into previous 6.7 Cummins with little issue? TCM should not be a big obstacle, and the physical dimensions all have to be roughly comparable.
 
AirRyan said:
Very interesting. Theoretically, that should mean a ZF 8 PowerLine swap into previous 6.7 Cummins with little issue? TCM should not be a big obstacle, and the physical dimensions all have to be roughly comparable.
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I had some follow-up questions after he told me, and it is in fact shift-by-wire column shifter (the cable he was looking at on the trans was the standard ZF parking pawl release).
Either way, cable or not, the 2025 ZF TCM is communicating over CAN FD vs the CAN C from previous years, so it wouldn’t know what anything else on the bus is saying without something translating for it.
 
Jimmy07 said:
I had some follow-up questions after he told me, and it is in fact shift-by-wire column shifter (the cable he was looking at on the trans was the standard ZF parking pawl release).
Either way, cable or not, the 2025 ZF TCM is communicating over CAN FD vs the CAN C from previous years, so it wouldn’t know what anything else on the bus is saying without something translating for it.
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Very interesting. That obstacle certainly sounds more workable than removing the physical column shifter and retrofitting an entire electronic push button shifter like on the gasser.
 
AirRyan said:
Very interesting. That obstacle certainly sounds more workable than removing the physical column shifter and retrofitting an entire electronic push button shifter like on the gasser.
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It’s still a column shifter, but it’s just a switch just like the rotary dial, and are technologically the same thing.
To retrofit this trans into a pre-2025, basically, all someone has to do is design a TCM and electronic shift module for it that communicates on the same type of CAN protocol as the pre-2025 trucks.
 
Jimmy07 said:
I had some follow-up questions after he told me, and it is in fact shift-by-wire column shifter (the cable he was looking at on the trans was the standard ZF parking pawl release).
Either way, cable or not, the 2025 ZF TCM is communicating over CAN FD vs the CAN C from previous years, so it wouldn’t know what anything else on the bus is saying without something translating for it.
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Sounds like it’ll likely be the same as the Paccar shifter. I can get behind that idea.
 
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