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*Breaking News* 2025 Orders from MARK DODGE **

Xflight29 said:
My dealer who just got back from a seminar on the HD 25 trucks told me that fleet trucks are able to order now. He also mentioned that the builds won't start until January of 25. He mentioned that as of right now you can order a 2025 HD and you get the 6.7, no new engine until after 26. I plan on ordering a 25 in the 3500 with the 6.7 as it is a proven engine.
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yes the code guides at start of this thread say exactly that regarding the engine. it's the transmission that has changed, which is not entirely reflected in code guide but some insiders 'round here have the intel.
2024 build will go through December 21st we are told, then break, then start 25s in a s....l....o....w fashion to begin
 
AnthonyRI said:
Oh sorry I started this thread for Mark Dodge specific discounts & orders, clearly it's grown - but you may want to move post elsewhere in the general order threads. Sorry I thought something was wrong becuase I didn't have an order on our books for today that matched lol
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Oops, didn’t realize that. Sorry.
 
ATCavi8or said:
MSRP is $94,945. They took off $3000 and if any rebates are available when it comes in I’ll get that (I seriously doubt there will be any though).
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Shucks man scroll up we're doing 11% off MSRP.
You'd have a dealer discount of $10,444
Even if it took you $2K to ship it, which it likely wouldn't, you'd still be $5K richer.
 
AnthonyRI said:
Shucks man scroll up we're doing 11% off MSRP.
You'd have a dealer discount of $10,444
Even if it took you $2K to ship it, which it likely wouldn't, you'd still be $5K richer.
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Well crap. I didn’t see this post until after I ordered today.
 
Xflight29 said:
He mentioned that as of right now you can order a 2025 HD and you get the 6.7, no new engine until after 26.
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I was under the impression that the new engine won't be available until 2028 when the 5th gen is released. The timeline for the 5th gen is hard to predict this early in the game. Perhaps the 2028 will be released in midyear 2027.
 
@AnthonyRI I've seen a few "rumors" across the WWW that the 2025 HDs will have head up display (my dealer has heard the same, but only a rumor). Would you know if this is true or not? The wife and I like that feature more than we would have ever imagined.
 
Biodiesel said:
I was under the impression that the new engine won't be available until 2028 when the 5th gen is released. The timeline for the 5th gen is hard to predict this early in the game. Perhaps the 2028 will be released in midyear 2027.
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The "new" engine being rumored is the 7.2L.

The 2025 6.7 is very much "newly revised." New emissions system design, new turbo, new injector design, glow plugs instead of a grid heater, top load cartridge oil filter housing, both fuel filter housings on the engine, etc. LOTS of changes. They *may* have dumped the CGI block and gone back to the gray iron block, but it appears the hydraulic lifters are here to stay. Supposed to be another new HPFP, just don't have all the details on that yet. Been mention of a CP CR8 but based on pics of both, I think it's a redesigned CP4.2 but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
jsalbre said:
I get the impression that old some old people just want a big stick to grab ahold of. :D
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If it is electric shift column shifter its kinda pointless but if its still cable then its so much better for reliability and cost to fix stand point
 
AnthonyRI said:
No HEMI anywhere in VOIM at all - not even a wee powerwagon.
EDIT - Plenty of HEMI in the code guide, just not avail for ordering yet. No need to be sad.
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HEMI avail in ordering software right now just on Tradesman.
mzflorida said:
@AnthonyRI I've seen a few "rumors" across the WWW that the 2025 HDs will have head up display (my dealer has heard the same, but only a rumor). Would you know if this is true or not? The wife and I like that feature more than we would have ever imagined.
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I don't see that listed anywhere in the code guide unless I'm just numb in the eyes
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
If it is electric shift column shifter its kinda pointless but if its still cable then its so much better for reliability and cost to fix stand point
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In all of the CDJR forums I’ve been on throughout the years, I’ve probably seen more shift cable issues (adjustment, broken, etc) than I’ve seen electronic shifter issues for the ZF transmission. (I don’t count people crying about auto park as an issue).
People like to say “it’s electronic, it’s just one more thing to go wrong”, but the reality is, it’s just not happening very much at all.
 
Jimmy07 said:
In all of the CDJR forums I’ve been on throughout the years, I’ve probably seen more shift cable issues (adjustment, broken, etc) than I’ve seen electronic shifter issues for the ZF transmission. (I don’t count people crying about auto park as an issue).
People like to say “it’s electronic, it’s just one more thing to go wrong”, but the reality is, it’s just not happening very much at all.
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Thats fair but my thought process is how many years before they stop production on those electronics? A cable can be made easily of they stop making them. I worry more about the planned obsolescence than the failure rate. Also its much nicer to plow with a column shift lol
 
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H3LZSN1P3R said:
Thats fair but my thought process is how many years before they stop production on those electronics? A cable can be made easily of they stop making them. I worry more about the planned obsolescence than the failure rate
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The engine and trans use an ECU/PCM, so really what's the difference?

You guys that are all wound up on the use of electronics have, for the most part, unsubstantiated claims.

Modern auto electronics are WAY more reliable than most are willing to admit. You want an EMP-proof bugout vehicle, get a P-pump 12V and rip out all the electronics.

My 21 year old A6, while it's had some mechanical switch issues (plastic degradation), has never had any electronics failures sans coilpacks, and that's an expected failure component given it's duties. Guess what? I can still source all those parts.
 
I don’t mine my rotary shifter and I can only think of two times I’m not sure about how well it would work.

1. Rocking a stuck truck
2. Plowing snow

Both require rapid forward/ reverse shifting and not sure how well that would work with the rotary shifter.
 
Brutal_HO said:
The engine and trans use an ECU/PCM, so really what's the difference?

You guys that are all wound up on the use of electronics have, for the most part, unsubstantiated claims.

Modern auto electronics are WAY more reliable than most are willing to admit. You want an EMP-proof bugout vehicle, get a P-pump 12V and rip out all the electronics.

My 21 year old A6, while it's had some mechanical switch issues (plastic degradation), has never had any electronics failures sans coilpacks, and that's an expected failure component given it's duties. Guess what? I can still source all those parts.
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Comparing euro to domestic is laughable, European vehicles have always been known to continue part production way longer than domestic. We all know how electronics can be over decades of salt and other corrosive materials getting to them. And domestic vehicles are way harder to find electronics for after 10-15 years unless you go to the scrap yards.
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
Comparing euro to domestic is laughable, European vehicles have always been known to continue part production way longer than domestic. We all know how electronics can be over decades of salt and other corrosive materials getting to them. And domestic vehicles are way harder to find electronics for after 10-15 years unless you go to the scrap yards.
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Jokes on you. Many of the parts are sourced from CHICOM.
 
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