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Payload capacity/tow question

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my 2500 serves my towing purposes perfectly. it also gets groceries and is a star road tripper. didn't need a 1 ton, but more than a halfer.
I was originally thinking a 2500 until I started looking at 5th wheel requirements and decided it wasn't going to cut it. The 2500 should be able to tow some decent size TTs through tongue weight vs pin weight differences. There are some light 5th wheels out the 2500 can haul but they're not going to be very long.
 

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my loads are usually race cars or farm implements. I wouldn't ever personally own any type of travel trailer.
 

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This article ought to stir the debate a little...

 

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This article ought to stir the debate a little...


I don't know if he's a personal friend, but that article is more dense than a neutron star.

That said, I added air lift springs to my 2500 to "level it" and punched over my weight for 16 years. However, there's a few compelling reasons (legality) I bought a 3500 this time around.
 

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I was originally thinking a 2500 until I started looking at 5th wheel requirements and decided it wasn't going to cut it. The 2500 should be able to tow some decent size TTs through tongue weight vs pin weight differences. There are some light 5th wheels out the 2500 can haul but they're not going to be very long.
Did you get the auto leveling system?
 

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I don't know if he's a personal friend, but that article is more dense than a neutron star.

That said, I added air lift springs to my 2500 to "level it" and punched over my weight for 16 years. However, there's a few compelling reasons (legality) I bought a 3500 this time around.
I knew that would stir the pot!! It does seem irresponsible of a guy in that position to give sketchy advice, almost encouraged to throw caution to the wind.
 

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This article ought to stir the debate a little...

Interesting take.
 

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Did you get the auto leveling system?
If you're referring to the 2500, no it did not have auto-leveling. I was going to buy one right off the lot and then the 68RFE recall hit and they couldn't sell it to me until the fix was in place. That was a God send because it gave me time to rethink my towing strategy and I ended up telling them I want to order a 3500 instead.
 

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Does the 3500 have the auto air leveling system?
 

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Although I thought it was a waist of money at first, when I found out it only works when enough weight is on the rear axle. But I learned the option also has a lighter leaf spring pack that realy helps in the ride when unloaded. I was warned not to get a SRW 3500 because of the buck board ride, but it has never felt that way to me, then I found out about the lighter spring pack with the auto level air system.
 

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Although I thought it was a waist of money at first, when I found out it only works when enough weight is on the rear axle. But I learned the option also has a lighter leaf spring pack that realy helps in the ride when unloaded. I was warned not to get a SRW 3500 because of the buck board ride, but it has never felt that way to me, then I found out about the lighter spring pack with the auto level air system.

It's the junk factory shocks that make the ride bad, though I thought my 3500 rode pretty darn good stock. I added Thuren coils and King IFP shocks and it rides absolutely fine on the highway no matter how rough.
 

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That may be so, but if you campare one with and one without the auto level air system, you notice a stiffer ride without it.
 

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I'm new to the HD scene, upgraded to my 2500 from an Ecodiesel in early march, and I don't get why the 2500s payloads are so low vs the 3500 SRW. I know the suspension pack is different, but beyond that the frame, brakes, axles are all the same correct?
 

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I'm new to the HD scene, upgraded to my 2500 from an Ecodiesel in early march, and I don't get why the 2500s payloads are so low vs the 3500 SRW. I know the suspension pack is different, but beyond that the frame, brakes, axles are all the same correct?
Correct. The 2500's (like most manufacturer's 3/4 ton trucks) are artificially capped at a 10,000 GVWR. No difference in Florida, but, some places have thresholds for insurance and registrations changes for vehicles over 10k, so, manufacturers have historically capped 3/4 tons there and let the 1-tons do the more commercial type work/insurance/registrations. The truck is likely capable of more, but, legally, the sticker says 10k max. It bugs me how these things are done. You're penalized for a diesel sitting over the front axle when in all reality, that has very little impact on the true payload where it's placed in a truck. Everyone will view the numbers differently, that's just my opinion. I am not convinced that a 2500 gasser with 3000# sticker payload is any more safe/stable than a 2500 CTD with 2000# sticker payload when towing a 2200# pin weight fiver for instance. One is definitely overloaded by the book, the other may not be, but, the rear springs see the same exact thing.
 

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