2023 RAM 2500 HD

[DeepH20Driller]

I build the prototypes.

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[Lew5]

Source to back this claim up? Or is it just your "opinion"

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Lol , me too

 

[brv10]

Lol , me too

That's all I can say

 

[Surf2snow1]

That's all I can say

The one change I wish they would offer is more night edition colors. I wanted the olive green night edition when I was ordering. A look similar to the green powerwagon.
Well, that and a small diesel (eco diesel?) in the PW. Good low torque, good mileage. And it would still have the ability to tow just as much as a 1500 lol.

 

[MtnRider]

Well there you go then, nothing new (worth noting) until 2025.

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[Ramajama]

Well we’ll see.

 

[redriderbob]

We will have some new news coming shortly... but expect a revision of the current 4th gen trucks once again!

 

[Minimization]

If nothing major is happening until 2025 (3 years from now...fall of 2024?), then I'll be buying a Ford instead. They can't keep this transmission charade up much longer. It would be nice to see the ZF PowerLine AP8 on the base Cummins and then the new medium duty 9 speed Allison automatic on the Cummins HO. Hell, upcharge that one a lot more if you have to. A 5th generation cab would be nice to get options like the panoramic sunroof and head-up display. Can we have more colors too? Anvil Grey, please?

You can't get around the physics- more gears equals faster acceleration and lower fuel consumption for the same engine.

I am not dropping $75k on a 2023 with a 6 speed tranny.

I mean, look at GM go:

GM To Invest $75 Million To Boost 10-Speed Transmission Production

Increased transmission production means increased truck production.

gmauthority.com

 

[Surf2snow1]

If nothing major is happening until 2025 (3 years from now...fall of 2024?), then I'll be buying a Ford instead. They can't keep this transmission charade up much longer. It would be nice to see the ZF PowerLine AP8 on the base Cummins and then the new medium duty 9 speed Allison automatic on the Cummins HO. Hell, upcharge that one a lot more if you have to. A 5th generation cab would be nice to get options like the panoramic sunroof and head-up display. Can we have more colors too? Anvil Grey, please?

You can't get around the physics- more gears equals faster acceleration and lower fuel consumption for the same engine.

I am not dropping $75k on a 2023 with a 6 speed tranny.

I mean, look at GM go:

GM To Invest $75 Million To Boost 10-Speed Transmission Production

Increased transmission production means increased truck production.

gmauthority.com

What’s wrong with the 68? It’s a fine transmission. Gets good mileage. Reliable. What do you need a 10+ Speed transmission for?

 

[Minimization]

What’s wrong with the 68? It’s a fine transmission. Gets good mileage. Reliable. What do you need a 10+ Speed transmission for?

First, I'd settle for 8 gears. If you are paying $80k you are paying for tens of millions in R&D just like the Ford and GM guys are, but getting no R&D in return. Why pay for a 20 y old design? The fallacy of "Tried and true"? It's like the Toyota Corolla crowd back in 2014 singing the praises of its 4 speed auto.

Please, let me repeat: "You can't get around the physics- more gears equals faster acceleration and lower fuel consumption for the same engine."

 

[Surf2snow1]

First, I'd settle for 8 gears. If you are paying $80k you are paying for tens of millions in R&D just like the Ford and GM guys are, but getting no R&D in return. Why pay for a 20 y old design? The fallacy of "Tried and true"? It's like the Toyota Corolla crowd back in 2014 singing the praises of its 4 speed auto.

Please, let me repeat: "You can't get around the physics- more gears equals faster acceleration and lower fuel consumption for the same engine."

I’m sure it’s a solid transmission and would do just fine.. I just personally don’t get behind the marketing gimmicks of introducing a new transmission. Just like the 5-10hp/tq increase each year. I guess if they’re talking about standardization across the 2500/3500 lines, that makes sense. Once trans would be a good idea

 

[Brutal_HO]

Just slap some Ford tow mirrors on it and I'll order a 23.

 

[Threeper88]

How could Ram realistically justify not updating the cab until 2025? Seems like a huge mistake. Guys will be jumping ship.

And Ford’s 7.3 may as well be their base engine at this point. 6.2 only lands in fleet trucks, sometimes.

As mentioned, paying for R&D that doesn’t exist.

 

[Firebird]

I love the current cab design! We get the better looking cab with the 5th gen interior, it's a win-win

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

First, I'd settle for 8 gears. If you are paying $80k you are paying for tens of millions in R&D just like the Ford and GM guys are, but getting no R&D in return. Why pay for a 20 y old design? The fallacy of "Tried and true"? It's like the Toyota Corolla crowd back in 2014 singing the praises of its 4 speed auto.

Please, let me repeat: "You can't get around the physics- more gears equals faster acceleration and lower fuel consumption for the same engine."

Well ram has the same millage as the other 2 and has more power… 6 speeds is more than enough… do you want the same issues the 19+ duramaxes and the 20+ powerjokes have with the trannies too? More gears means more issues. and the ram 6 speeds have not been out 20 years and they are constantly updating and improving the 68rfe so its not the same design…. Look at the IKE gauntlet challenges the rams fully loaded have no issue pulling up steep mountain passes…. And if you want acceleration buy a sports car not an 8000lbs truck which these have great acceleration anyway

 

[brv10]

Well ram has the same millage as the other 2 and has more power… 6 speeds is more than enough… do you want the same issues the 19+ duramaxes and the 20+ powerjokes have with the trannies too? More gears means more issues. and the ram 6 speeds have not been out 20 years and they are constantly updating and improving the 68rfe so its not the same design…. Look at the IKE gauntlet challenges the rams fully loaded have no issue pulling up steep mountain passes…. And if you want acceleration buy a sports car not an 8000lbs truck which these have great acceleration anyway

Some engines work better pulling, like an I6 engine, some work better with more gears, like a V8 diesel behind the fantastic Aliison,HA!

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Some engines work better pulling, like an I6 engine, some work better with more gears, like a V8 diesel behind the fantastic Aliison,HA!

Well thats just it, there is a reason transports run inline engines and the bottom line is they are tq monsters at low RPM where the V8s tend to make the power at higher rpm hence why they need more gears in the trans

 

[Grayson]

The 10 speed twins have more issues than frequently mentioned. Its all about the powerbanz. The GM 10 speed is not an Allison built unit, Allison licensed the name or did some changes I cant remember which. I'm sure both GM & Ford are going to spend between 700 billion and a trillion 300 million billion between R&D and updates. I would prefer a 6 or 8 speed

 

[b307a1]

Nothing in 23

Maybe the the BigHorn/Lonestar/SLT grille change is a subtle indication that nothing major will be happening for the 2023's

 

[Brewbud]

So no big changes until 2025. Maybe we should be calling ours a 5th gen instead of a 4.5 gen