Yup. Each change like that also requires training, parts, etc…60 more torque and 4 more gears. Yet, same pull time, but worse MPG.
Some of you just want more gears for the sake of wanting more because the other guys have them. The current ISB offerings are very well matched to their current gear ratio sets. Adding more gears down low is going to give you an ants ass of city mpg and that's about it.
The 68RFE 5th is .82 and 6th .63.
Allison 10 in that Chevy is 8th .85, 9th, .69, 10th, .64.
Show me the dramatic difference there above 45MPH towing or otherwise. The 10 zips through most of its gears quickly down low and ends up at the same highway speed ratios as 'ol Sixy. The video up there proves that illustration. Where's all the massive MPG savings and pull performance from all that extra power and gearing?
The RAM looks better, rides better, pulls better, gets better MPG and has a worlds better interior and they sell every one they build. Don't expect a business to change for the sake of change when things are this good right now. Do they need to stay competitive and constantly improve? Sure, but right now the RAM is toe to toe with anyone out there even if the old tech on paper bothers the bench racers.
The ZF now that would be a treat but i would rather a 6 speed if i cant get a manual
It's actually a Ford and GM project.The Allison currently being used in the GM trucks is not an Allison. It was a GM project which included consultation by Allison along with Allison branding. It was developed by GM, manufactured by GM and used exclusively by GM. Don't let the branding fool you.
A Cummins / Allison combination would be the holy grail of drivetrains. There are countless professional mechanics and technicians that would agree so if you are angry don't point your finger at me.
Do I love the ZF behind my Hemi, hell yeah! Would I sell her and begin a new project if they began installing real Allisons behind the Hemi? Nah, my ZF is doing great, thank you.
But a Cummins and Allison combo for a work truck...unbeatable.
A Cummins / Allison combination would be the holy grail of drivetrains. There are countless professional mechanics and technicians that would agree so if you are angry don't point your finger at me
But a Cummins and Allison combo for a work truck...unbeatable.
Sadly this couldn’t be further from the truth. The new Torqshift transmission has been a hot mess for Ford. SERIOUS reliability problems. I have several friends that have 2019 or new F250-350’s and all but one has had transmission issues. Go over to one of the Superduty forums and check it out. It was enough for me to walk away from the 2021 had had ordered.I think Ford really did the best in this new generation in terms of matching their block to trans. Their new 10 speed seems to be pretty stout and was well refined when I drove it.
Are you thinking of the 10R140 or the 10R80? The 80 is in the F150 and was the collab between Ford/GM, that trans has been an absolute hot mess. The 140 is in the SD trucks and looks like it had a recall back in the early part of this year for a 1st planetary gear issue. I had not seen much on trans issues when I was looking mid 2019 but it was also brand new at that point. I also recently listened to a podcast with the Revmax guys and they stated that the things was in pretty great shape overall.Sadly this couldn’t be further from the truth. The new Torqshift transmission has been a hot mess for Ford. SERIOUS reliability problems. I have several friends that have 2019 or new F250-350’s and all but one has had transmission issues. Go over to one of the Superduty forums and check it out. It was enough for me to walk away from the 2021 had had ordered.
Sadly this couldn’t be further from the truth. The new Torqshift transmission has been a hot mess for Ford. SERIOUS reliability problems. I have several friends that have 2019 or new F250-350’s and all but one has had transmission issues. Go over to one of the Superduty forums and check it out. It was enough for me to walk away from the 2021 had had ordered.
My error. Meant 2020+ with the issues. The previous 6-speed was indeed a fantastic transmission. New 10-speed….not even in the same league.The 2019s have the 6r140 which is one of the best transmissions ever put into a LD truck.
The 20+ Super Duty trucks have the 10 speed which has proven to be issue-prone. That said, Ford will get it figured out. Theyve had the strongest light duty diesel transmission for over a decade now.
Allison lol.... trash. No thanks.