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Automatic Regen too often

Leaks upstream of the DPF are going to be nice & black from all the soot. Should be pretty easy to find visually.
Thanks Panda. Figured it might be obvious. I’ll take a look.

The way this issue is so intermittent, and might have some connection with moisture, I’m beginning to suspect wiring as well. I’ve had chafing issues with this truck before on other components (4WD in particular)

Anybody have suggestions on how to track down a wiring short on the DPF Pressure Differential sensor wire harness? I’ve tracked the wiring from the sensor up to the rear of the passenger side wheelwell where it connects to a larger harness. I haven’t gone further upstream, but wondering if, as a first step, I can check continuity or something with just that run using a multimeter if I have long enough leads. Am I on the right track with that? If so, what kind of readings should i look for? If ive overlooked a thread on this somewhere else, I can jump over there. Thanks.
 
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Thanks a lot mbarber84. Very helpful. I have located the EGT sensor just upstream of the DPF (and after the DOC. It is so tight up there I’m not even sure I can get a wrench in there to remove it. There is a largish cross member (or maybe it’s part of the skid plates) that really makes the angles and space tight. Have you inspected with a borescope without having to remove the exhaust?
It can be done but it’s difficult to find a borescope small enough that you can get it through thr EGT sensor hole. I’ve never done it but I’ve seen some videos from other shops that do it. We’ve always just pulled the assembly off the truck and inspected it directly. Not much more work and then it’s easier to see.
 
Leaks upstream of the DPF are going to be nice & black from all the soot. Should be pretty easy to find visually.
This is not always the case. We find many leaks with no soot stains, and no I dont work for or on Ram trucks except mine and a few friends trucks. Yes I have my own independent specialist workshop and the vehicles we work on have similar concerns but not as hectic as this thread. We find air leaks upstream of the DPF, sensors not working, engine cooling concerns for example thermostats not working properly so the engines run too cold, in our case for a DPF regen to take place the engine coolant temp must be above 60 degrees Celcius. We also find intake system air leaks causing regen concerns too. ECU software also causing concerns. I know this is not as helpful as it should be sorry. We smoke test the intake, exhaust, and all vacuum lines and fix that first.
 
Just thought I'd share this picture of my tailpipe. Sooty inside, and around the edges. DPF was replaced August 27th last year due to regens every 25-50 miles. Run 6400d every 3-4k miles, and a hot dose of 6500 between. All 24 hr regens since last year with the exception of 2.

Just find the soot interesting
 

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Well, I made it to Page 92. I was hoping for that 'silver bullet', especially since the rate of growth of this thread has slowed down so much. Here's what I think I know:

I have a 3500SRW SO 6.7. I took delivery in January of 2022, in the days when chips were in short supply. I routinely tow a bumper pull horse trailer, weighing about 3000 lbs empty, 4200 with one horse, 5400 with two and 6600 with three horses. I also tow a 14,000 lb 5th wheel, typically two or three extensive trips per year, like up to Canada, over to Florida, out to Montana etc. In between the towing trips it's a daily driver with lots of short trips for various typical errands.

-My truck had infrequent regens for a long time, like 3 1/2 years and 68,000 miles or thereabouts. Given that and all the stories here, it appears that the environmental systems will gradually lose ground and build up residual soot in the DPF, with the biggest factor being the duty cycle. While I was driving around solo up in Canada a few months ago, I got my first forced regen that had the message to 'continue driving'. It happened again about a month later down here in Texas.
-There are so many potential causes and contributing factors that it seems unlikely a single root cause will ever be identified, except maybe in the big bucket know as software. There is clearly something common to the 2022's, which could imply one or more sensors that may have been sourced from a 'secondary' source due to the supply chain issues going on at the time.
-It looks to me like the time it takes to hit the 'very frequent regen' situation is largely dictated by duty cycle. I got further than many as my duty cycle has more towing miles than many others
-I treated the truck with Archoil 6400D after the second 'keep driving' regen. It definitely helped. I'm guessing that that more stern active message is triggered when the DPF soot level hits some key level, perhaps 50%. I think focusing on the displayed soot level from the differential pressure transmitter is misleading at best. I don't plan to put any significant focus on it.
-I began treating with Archoil 6500 and I'll continue for now but I think the jury is still out. The truck is showing signs of better mileage, but we all know how hard that is to quantify.

I really like my truck. I just hit 75,000 miles and I have a 100,000/7 year warranty. It looks like I'll finish my warranty in less than 2 years. Here's my plan:

-Treat with Archoil 6400D if and when I get another 'keep driving' regen message.
-Watch my oil level closely, and shorten up my oil change interval. How often I change it might be dictated if I find my oil level is rising.
-Whenever possible, use the wife's car or my motorcycle for the short around town errands, hence improving the duty cycle.
-Monitor this thread and/or others like it in hopes that something concrete is identified that will improve the regen performance.

This will hopefully get me through to the end of my warranty, and I'll assess options from there. In the meantime, something new has popped up. I started getting a new message that pops up and chimes every time I start the truck. it simply says "Perform Service". The dealer service writer says that message triggers a number of diagnostic tests that typically take from 2 to 5 days. I have an appointment to leave the truck with them on Tuesday the 23rd. I'll write up my experience in this thread, assuming it's relevant. I don't recall that particular message being mentioned in the previous 92 pages.
 
Well, I made it to Page 92. I was hoping for that 'silver bullet', especially since the rate of growth of this thread has slowed down so much. Here's what I think I know:

I have a 3500SRW SO 6.7. I took delivery in January of 2022, in the days when chips were in short supply. I routinely tow a bumper pull horse trailer, weighing about 3000 lbs empty, 4200 with one horse, 5400 with two and 6600 with three horses. I also tow a 14,000 lb 5th wheel, typically two or three extensive trips per year, like up to Canada, over to Florida, out to Montana etc. In between the towing trips it's a daily driver with lots of short trips for various typical errands.

-My truck had infrequent regens for a long time, like 3 1/2 years and 68,000 miles or thereabouts. Given that and all the stories here, it appears that the environmental systems will gradually lose ground and build up residual soot in the DPF, with the biggest factor being the duty cycle. While I was driving around solo up in Canada a few months ago, I got my first forced regen that had the message to 'continue driving'. It happened again about a month later down here in Texas.
-There are so many potential causes and contributing factors that it seems unlikely a single root cause will ever be identified, except maybe in the big bucket know as software. There is clearly something common to the 2022's, which could imply one or more sensors that may have been sourced from a 'secondary' source due to the supply chain issues going on at the time.
-It looks to me like the time it takes to hit the 'very frequent regen' situation is largely dictated by duty cycle. I got further than many as my duty cycle has more towing miles than many others
-I treated the truck with Archoil 6400D after the second 'keep driving' regen. It definitely helped. I'm guessing that that more stern active message is triggered when the DPF soot level hits some key level, perhaps 50%. I think focusing on the displayed soot level from the differential pressure transmitter is misleading at best. I don't plan to put any significant focus on it.
-I began treating with Archoil 6500 and I'll continue for now but I think the jury is still out. The truck is showing signs of better mileage, but we all know how hard that is to quantify.

I really like my truck. I just hit 75,000 miles and I have a 100,000/7 year warranty. It looks like I'll finish my warranty in less than 2 years. Here's my plan:

-Treat with Archoil 6400D if and when I get another 'keep driving' regen message.
-Watch my oil level closely, and shorten up my oil change interval. How often I change it might be dictated if I find my oil level is rising.
-Whenever possible, use the wife's car or my motorcycle for the short around town errands, hence improving the duty cycle.
-Monitor this thread and/or others like it in hopes that something concrete is identified that will improve the regen performance.

This will hopefully get me through to the end of my warranty, and I'll assess options from there. In the meantime, something new has popped up. I started getting a new message that pops up and chimes every time I start the truck. it simply says "Perform Service". The dealer service writer says that message triggers a number of diagnostic tests that typically take from 2 to 5 days. I have an appointment to leave the truck with them on Tuesday the 23rd. I'll write up my experience in this thread, assuming it's relevant. I don't recall that particular message being mentioned in the previous 92 pages.
The perform service message is more than likely to change your CCV.. Triggers off mileage / time.
Once CCV is changed to reset it... turn the ignition to the ON position without starting the engine, press the brake pedal twice, slowly press the accelerator pedal all the way down twice within 10 seconds, and then turn the ignition off. After completing these steps, start the engine to see if the message has been cleared
 
The reference I saw on line for the 'Perform Service' message did indicate it was time/mileage based and was to change the CCV. I mentioned this to the service writer as I expected to have a one hour appointment or so. She advised that they need the truck for 2 to 5 days of diagnostics as a required response to that message. I sincerely hope that you are correct.
 
The reference I saw on line for the 'Perform Service' message did indicate it was time/mileage based and was to change the CCV. I mentioned this to the service writer as I expected to have a one hour appointment or so. She advised that they need the truck for 2 to 5 days of diagnostics as a required response to that message. I sincerely hope that you are correct.
I wouldn’t even take it in.

Replace the CCV filter, and re-set the code. It takes 20 minutes.
 
I could easily do the replacement myself but with a potential warranty issue involving emission systems I'm happier having the worked done by the dealer and logged with Stellantis. It's an abundance of caution perhaps.
 
I could easily do the replacement myself but with a potential warranty issue involving emission systems I'm happier having the worked done by the dealer and logged with Stellantis. It's an abundance of caution perhaps.

Based on the response you posted above I’m not sure it’s worth trusting that dealership. It’s a scheduled service, nothing to diagnose.
 
I could easily do the replacement myself but with a potential warranty issue involving emission systems I'm happier having the worked done by the dealer and logged with Stellantis. It's an abundance of caution perhaps.
Your emissions system is out of warranty anyways.

No need to be down a truck 5-6 days, but to each their own.
 
Well, I made it to Page 92. I was hoping for that 'silver bullet', especially since the rate of growth of this thread has slowed down so much. Here's what I think I know:

I have a 3500SRW SO 6.7. I took delivery in January of 2022, in the days when chips were in short supply. I routinely tow a bumper pull horse trailer, weighing about 3000 lbs empty, 4200 with one horse, 5400 with two and 6600 with three horses. I also tow a 14,000 lb 5th wheel, typically two or three extensive trips per year, like up to Canada, over to Florida, out to Montana etc. In between the towing trips it's a daily driver with lots of short trips for various typical errands.

-My truck had infrequent regens for a long time, like 3 1/2 years and 68,000 miles or thereabouts. Given that and all the stories here, it appears that the environmental systems will gradually lose ground and build up residual soot in the DPF, with the biggest factor being the duty cycle. While I was driving around solo up in Canada a few months ago, I got my first forced regen that had the message to 'continue driving'. It happened again about a month later down here in Texas.
-There are so many potential causes and contributing factors that it seems unlikely a single root cause will ever be identified, except maybe in the big bucket know as software. There is clearly something common to the 2022's, which could imply one or more sensors that may have been sourced from a 'secondary' source due to the supply chain issues going on at the time.
-It looks to me like the time it takes to hit the 'very frequent regen' situation is largely dictated by duty cycle. I got further than many as my duty cycle has more towing miles than many others
-I treated the truck with Archoil 6400D after the second 'keep driving' regen. It definitely helped. I'm guessing that that more stern active message is triggered when the DPF soot level hits some key level, perhaps 50%. I think focusing on the displayed soot level from the differential pressure transmitter is misleading at best. I don't plan to put any significant focus on it.
-I began treating with Archoil 6500 and I'll continue for now but I think the jury is still out. The truck is showing signs of better mileage, but we all know how hard that is to quantify.

I really like my truck. I just hit 75,000 miles and I have a 100,000/7 year warranty. It looks like I'll finish my warranty in less than 2 years. Here's my plan:

-Treat with Archoil 6400D if and when I get another 'keep driving' regen message.
-Watch my oil level closely, and shorten up my oil change interval. How often I change it might be dictated if I find my oil level is rising.
-Whenever possible, use the wife's car or my motorcycle for the short around town errands, hence improving the duty cycle.
-Monitor this thread and/or others like it in hopes that something concrete is identified that will improve the regen performance.

This will hopefully get me through to the end of my warranty, and I'll assess options from there. In the meantime, something new has popped up. I started getting a new message that pops up and chimes every time I start the truck. it simply says "Perform Service". The dealer service writer says that message triggers a number of diagnostic tests that typically take from 2 to 5 days. I have an appointment to leave the truck with them on Tuesday the 23rd. I'll write up my experience in this thread, assuming it's relevant. I don't recall that particular message being mentioned in the previous 92 pages.

Most of the emissions exhaust parts, DOC/SCR/DPF, etc. are classified as "maintenance/filter" items and not covered under any extended warranty beyond the 3/36 bumper-bumper.

Unless you're in a CARB state that grants a slightly longer 5/50K emissions warranty, and you're also outside that anyway, you're not getting any of it covered under warranty.
 
Has any one ever heard of this type of Mopar extended warranty coverage before????

Can I extend my Ram Emissions Warranty coverage?
Yes, you can extend your emissions system coverage by opting for a Mopar® Vehicle Protection Plan. These extended warranties offer additional protection beyond the standard emissions warranty, covering more components and providing benefits such as roadside assistance and rental car reimbursement, ensuring your truck remains fully protected for years to come.
 
Well, at risk of being insulted for my decisions, I have a RAM Maximum Care policy, Option Code WMT8100N. This is bumper to bumper coverage for 8 years or 100,000 miles. If I have the misfortune of requiring a DPF replacement in the next 25,000 miles it will cost me a $200 deductible payment.
I've done a bit more digging and the 'Perform Service' message includes CCV replacement as well as cleaning and servicing the EGR system. Based on my truck's recent behavior, that's probably worth having done and documented with Stellantis.
 
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