DEF Shortage coming to USA?

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 5839" data-quote="Dave88LX" data-source="post: 146293" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=146293" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-146293">Dave88LX said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> How long can your box of DEF sit for? Shelf life? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Depends where its stored temp wise</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 3215" data-quote="H3LZSN1P3R" data-source="post: 146297" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=146297" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-146297">H3LZSN1P3R said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Depends where its stored temp wise </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Oh. I would just keep it in my unheated garage in PA, &quot;seasonal temperature.&quot;</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Here’s a nice FAQ on DEF from cummins<br /> <br /> <br /> <div> <a href="https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/MB10033.pdf" class="link link--external" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href="/forum/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cumminsfiltration.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FMB10033.pdf&amp;hash=54ede3853d1e5f689ee6dfd0e01a0098"> https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/MB10033.pdf </a> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 840" data-quote="Billcf7" data-source="post: 146145" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=146145" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-146145">Billcf7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> DEF freezes just a couple deg. below freezing </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 658" data-quote="flan" data-source="post: 146288" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=146288" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-146288">flan said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It will start to freeze at 12 degrees F. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> 20 is the new 2.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 3215" data-quote="H3LZSN1P3R" data-source="post: 145795" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=145795" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-145795">H3LZSN1P3R said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The shortage is on UREA but most DEF is made with American Hogs piss (UREA) Dont listen to the news and you will enjoy life more </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="10750" data-url="https://findanyanswer.com/is-adblue-made-of-pig-urine" data-host="findanyanswer.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://findanyanswer.com/is-adblue-made-of-pig-urine" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href="/forum/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Ffindanyanswer.com%2Fis-adblue-made-of-pig-urine&amp;hash=40aff3500cbd636ddcf86ffe08f17c46"> Is AdBlue made of pig urine? </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">AdBlue is a colourless, non-toxic mixture of urea and de-ionised water. Lots of people think AdBlue is made of pig urine – it&#039;s not. The urea used in AdBlue is a high purity man-made solution – pig urine wouldn&#039;t be pure or sterile enough for a commercial product.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Ffindanyanswer.com%2Ffavicon%2Ffavicon-32x32.png&amp;hash=bb51226e07c104bdf404496a7171c34a&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="findanyanswer.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> findanyanswer.com </div> </div> </div> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Our area is running low, the expensive($14.99) blue def seems to be around, but we&#039;re used to $9.99 for 2.5 gallons. I was about to purchase the Super Tech walmart stuff, but noticed it doesn&#039;t have the ISO certification</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 840" data-quote="Billcf7" data-source="post: 146145" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=146145" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-146145">Billcf7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> DEF freezes just a couple deg. below freezing </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Actually it freezes at 12 * f</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 5839" data-quote="Dave88LX" data-source="post: 146293" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=146293" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-146293">Dave88LX said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> How long can your box of DEF sit for? Shelf life? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>From cummins website , Q. What is the shelf life of DEF? A. The shelf life of DEF is a function of ambient storage temperature. DEF will degrade over time depending on temperature and exposure to sun light. Expectations for shelf life as defined by ISO Spec 22241-3 are the minimum expectations for shelf life when stored at constant temperatures. If stored between 10 and 90 deg F, shelf life will easily be one year. If the maximum temperature does not exceed approximately 75 deg F for an extended period of time, the shelf life will be two years</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 17366" data-quote="biofumes" data-source="post: 147387" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=147387" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-147387">biofumes said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Our area is running low, the expensive($14.99) blue def seems to be around, but we&#039;re used to $9.99 for 2.5 gallons. I was about to purchase the Super Tech walmart stuff, but noticed it doesn&#039;t have the ISO certification </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>API cert is what your looking for, and it’s right on the front label.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><div> <a href="https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/MB10033.pdf" class="link link--external" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href="/forum/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cumminsfiltration.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FMB10033.pdf&amp;hash=54ede3853d1e5f689ee6dfd0e01a0098"> https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/MB10033.pdf </a> </div> <br /> So just not worry about iso certification?</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">From what I read to get API DEF certification it is require to meet ISO 22241 standards.<br /> I been using DEF out of the pump on all my trucks and never had a issue. I never notice any certifications or ISO stickers. Honestly I never looked for them and I plan to continue filling up at the pump.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">The API Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) Certification Program is a voluntary program designed to certify and monitor the quality characteristics of diesel exhaust fluid intended for use in motor vehicles with diesel engines. Diesel exhaust fluid marketers that have demonstrated that their products satisfy the requirements of the most recent and applicable edition of ISO 22241, <i>Diesel engines – NOx reduction agent AUS 32,</i> may be licensed to display the API Diesel Exhaust Fluid Certification Mark.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Glad someone posted that reference link <br /> Time to go to Wally World for def fluid</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">My local Walmart is out, but can be ordered online for next day pick up.<br /> <a href="https://hdrams.com/forum/attachments/screenshot_20211218-214441_walmart-jpg.28286/" target="_blank"><img src="https://hdrams.com/forum/data/attachments/28/28286-1f461537b61361636548ae86f9b71353.jpg?hash=H0YVN7YTYW" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Screenshot_20211218-214441_Walmart.jpg" title="Screenshot_20211218-214441_Walmart.jpg" width="150" height="317" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 2281" data-quote="b307a1" data-source="post: 147725" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=147725" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-147725">b307a1 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The shelves of both the nearby Walmart stores are full. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I was in Walmart yesterday, and their shelved were wiped out</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I don&#039;t know whether it&#039;s just a regional thing or if it just hasn&#039;t caught up to this area yet</div>
 
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