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Automatic Regen too often

Dark Sky said:
Well, at risk of being insulted for my decisions, I have a RAM Maximum Care policy, Option Code WMT8100N. This is bumper to bumper coverage for 8 years or 100,000 miles. If I have the misfortune of requiring a DPF replacement in the next 25,000 miles it will cost me a $200 deductible payment.
I've done a bit more digging and the 'Perform Service' message includes CCV replacement as well as cleaning and servicing the EGR system. Based on my truck's recent behavior, that's probably worth having done and documented with Stellantis.
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Max care specifically excludes the DPF. It’s a great warranty (what I had on the 22, and what we bought for the wife’s 23 JT), but it does have some exclusions. Probably time to re-read the documents.

EGR cleaning hasn’t been a scheduled thing since 2012. It’s not a bad thing, but certainly not the required service of 07.5-12.
 
56ram2500 said:
Has any one ever heard of this type of Mopar extended warranty coverage before????

Can I extend my Ram Emissions Warranty coverage?
Yes, you can extend your emissions system coverage by opting for a Mopar® Vehicle Protection Plan. These extended warranties offer additional protection beyond the standard emissions warranty, covering more components and providing benefits such as roadside assistance and rental car reimbursement, ensuring your truck remains fully protected for years to come.
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Although you didn't cite your source, I know that you're quoting a web page from Granger Motors which has proven to be inaccurate.

Dark Sky said:
Well, at risk of being insulted for my decisions, I have a RAM Maximum Care policy, Option Code WMT8100N. This is bumper to bumper coverage for 8 years or 100,000 miles. If I have the misfortune of requiring a DPF replacement in the next 25,000 miles it will cost me a $200 deductible payment.
I've done a bit more digging and the 'Perform Service' message includes CCV replacement as well as cleaning and servicing the EGR system. Based on my truck's recent behavior, that's probably worth having done and documented with Stellantis.
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If you read the MOPAR Maxcare warrantee documents, you will see these components DOC/SCR/DPF are NOT covered.

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Dark Sky said:
Well, at risk of being insulted for my decisions, I have a RAM Maximum Care policy, Option Code WMT8100N. This is bumper to bumper coverage for 8 years or 100,000 miles. If I have the misfortune of requiring a DPF replacement in the next 25,000 miles it will cost me a $200 deductible payment.
I've done a bit more digging and the 'Perform Service' message includes CCV replacement as well as cleaning and servicing the EGR system. Based on my truck's recent behavior, that's probably worth having done and documented with Stellantis.
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I have the exact same Mopar warranty WMT8100N and here’s the snippet from my document where it states it does NOT cover the DPF. I thought it would cover it, too, when I bought it but learned shortly after it didn’t. Sooo, it’s for almost everything else.

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Well, time to recalibrate. It was foolish to assume that RAM's version of 'bumper to bumper' would measure up to Ford's (which I had on my 2011 dually and was excellent). I will confirm what this planned service is going to cost and go from there. Changing the CCV is no big deal but the question in my mind is whether the EGR system cleaning would be beneficial to my engine.
 
Dark Sky said:
Well, time to recalibrate. It was foolish to assume that RAM's version of 'bumper to bumper' would measure up to Ford's (which I had on my 2011 dually and was excellent). I will confirm what this planned service is going to cost and go from there. Changing the CCV is no big deal but the question in my mind is whether the EGR system cleaning would be beneficial to my engine.
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The EGR system is not due to be cleaned at your mileage, per RAM.

I’m sure the dealer would love to get paid for the work, but it’s not necessary on the 2019-2024 trucks at 75k like it was on older models.
 
Thanks for the intel. I've been doing some further reading and given that my truck has no symptoms of EGR problems, and that the manual has no maintenance requirements spelled out for the EGR system, I'm going to cancel my appointment and just do the CCV replacement myself.
 
Dark Sky said:
Thanks for the intel. I've been doing some further reading and given that my truck has no symptoms of EGR problems, and that the manual has no maintenance requirements spelled out for the EGR system, I'm going to cancel my appointment and just do the CCV replacement myself.
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Good call.

I’d order the filter, and any others you might need, from Geno’s.
 
My truck (22 2500 CTD) started having frequent regens while I was up in Northern Wisc for a month. 24K on it, mostly towing miles here in the Ozarks. Had mostly 23 hour regen up until being driven as a daily driver up north. It has not improved after getting home and doing some pulls with it. I changed the oil/filter and fuel filters. No change. So took it into the dealer yesterday. I only have about 3 weeks left on the factory warranty, but there is also the TSB for the DPF. And I have the emissions warranty too. I hate that I'm now on this hamster wheel, but I'm hoping they find and fix the problem quickly. Dealer has been good to work with so far.

I have not run Archoil yet. May be something I need to do if the dealer can't fix it.
 
jebruns said:
My truck (22 2500 CTD) started having frequent regens while I was up in Northern Wisc for a month. 24K on it, mostly towing miles here in the Ozarks. Had mostly 23 hour regen up until being driven as a daily driver up north. It has not improved after getting home and doing some pulls with it. I changed the oil/filter and fuel filters. No change. So took it into the dealer yesterday. I only have about 3 weeks left on the factory warranty, but there is also the TSB for the DPF. And I have the emissions warranty too. I hate that I'm now on this hamster wheel, but I'm hoping they find and fix the problem quickly. Dealer has been good to work with so far.

I have not run Archoil yet. May be something I need to do if the dealer can't fix it.
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My truck with August 22 build date had issues starting about 24k, DPF replaced at 27k after dealer had it for several months. Mine occurred just before the tsb, so hopefully they can remedy quickly. I have put 24k on the new DPF and it has gone well. With that said I do run archoil now
 
My truck, 2020 HO was doing a regen every 150 miles last winter since it was a daily driver, this summer pulled our 15klb 5th wheel out west for 8k miles and it was happy, getting almost to 24 hour regents many times. Got home and while not towing all the time, still every other week (love being retired) and the regens are heading south again. Did a soot based regen at 300 miles, ok, only towed 75 miles that trip, drove about 20 miles in town, then did a 140 mile drive at 70mph (unloaded) and the EVIC is showing 25%-30%. Would have thought the long highway drive would passive regen. Did another regen and some around town driving for about 25 miles, EVIC showed well over 25% soot load, pulled the trailer about 350 miles and it took most of that drive to do a passive regen. I am running Archoil. Getting really annoyed. I bought an OBD scanner and JScan since that appeared to be a popular option, but I am not sure if I am looking in the right place since it shows EGT of 650, shouldn’t they be near 900? I attached a screen shot of the JScan display. The truck runs good, 21 mpg on the highway unloaded, 11 pulling the 5th wheel, oil level stays where it belongs, air filter doesn’t have glue strips, replace oil and fuel filters at appropriate times, get my filters from Geno’s, so I am buying the right stuff. Running out of ideas.
 

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Greg10yes said:
My truck, 2020 HO was doing a regen every 150 miles last winter since it was a daily driver, this summer pulled our 15klb 5th wheel out west for 8k miles and it was happy, getting almost to 24 hour regents many times. Got home and while not towing all the time, still every other week (love being retired) and the regens are heading south again. Did a soot based regen at 300 miles, ok, only towed 75 miles that trip, drove about 20 miles in town, then did a 140 mile drive at 70mph (unloaded) and the EVIC is showing 25%-30%. Would have thought the long highway drive would passive regen. Did another regen and some around town driving for about 25 miles, EVIC showed well over 25% soot load, pulled the trailer about 350 miles and it took most of that drive to do a passive regen. I am running Archoil. Getting really annoyed. I bought an OBD scanner and JScan since that appeared to be a popular option, but I am not sure if I am looking in the right place since it shows EGT of 650, shouldn’t they be near 900? I attached a screen shot of the JScan display. The truck runs good, 21 mpg on the highway unloaded, 11 pulling the 5th wheel, oil level stays where it belongs, air filter doesn’t have glue strips, replace oil and fuel filters at appropriate times, get my filters from Geno’s, so I am buying the right stuff. Running out of ideas.
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There are 5 different egt probes that you should be able to monitor. EGT1 is is in front of the DOC. EGT2 is behind the DOC and in front of the DPF. EGT3 is behind the DPF and the other two are on the SCR inlet and outlet.
 
Greg10yes said:
My truck, 2020 HO was doing a regen every 150 miles last winter since it was a daily driver, this summer pulled our 15klb 5th wheel out west for 8k miles and it was happy, getting almost to 24 hour regents many times. Got home and while not towing all the time, still every other week (love being retired) and the regens are heading south again. Did a soot based regen at 300 miles, ok, only towed 75 miles that trip, drove about 20 miles in town, then did a 140 mile drive at 70mph (unloaded) and the EVIC is showing 25%-30%. Would have thought the long highway drive would passive regen. Did another regen and some around town driving for about 25 miles, EVIC showed well over 25% soot load, pulled the trailer about 350 miles and it took most of that drive to do a passive regen. I am running Archoil. Getting really annoyed. I bought an OBD scanner and JScan since that appeared to be a popular option, but I am not sure if I am looking in the right place since it shows EGT of 650, shouldn’t they be near 900? I attached a screen shot of the JScan display. The truck runs good, 21 mpg on the highway unloaded, 11 pulling the 5th wheel, oil level stays where it belongs, air filter doesn’t have glue strips, replace oil and fuel filters at appropriate times, get my filters from Geno’s, so I am buying the right stuff. Running out of ideas.
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650F to 700F is about what I run for EGT2 (pre DPF) in normal driving. I don’t think you get much passive regen without a significant load. I don’t think highway driving at 70 is going to regen. It probably only slows the soot loading down a bit. If the components and tuning aren’t perfect, I think DPF issues are a given with these trucks. There is a funny guy on YouTube who talks while waving around everything from a lambchop to a hand gernade. He provides excellent info on everything diesel. He has preDPF trucks and refers to us as “you poor bastards with DPFs”. He claims, and I tend to agree, that DPFs are maintenance items and will need to be replaced occasionally. The soot is burned to ash and the ash will eventually plug the DPF. The ash is not removed in a regen. The biggest issue, IMO, is that RAM didn’t make the DPF easily removable and cleanable.
 
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Dodgeman said:
There is a funny guy on YouTube who talks while waving around everything from a lambchop to a hand gernade. He provides excellent info on everything diesel. He has preDPF trucks and refers to us as “you poor bastards with DPFS”. He claims, and I tend to agree, that DPFs are maintenance items and will need to be replaced occasionally.
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You're talking about Freedom Worx, pretty educational content there and ya, he loves his props.
 
Greg10yes said:
Has anyone had their dpf professionally cleaned? I found a local company that claims their process is Cummins approved. https://www.cleandieselspecialists.com/
They charge $550 (must take it to them, they do not remove from truck,) , takes 2 days, is a 12 step process according to their website.
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It would be great if they could do so for the type of DPF we have on our trucks
 
OLEJOE said:
Yeah I don’t think ours are serviceable. Would be great if they were though.
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I may give it a try when we get back from our next trip. Tired of the frequent regens. When I filled out the online webform, I said it was a 2020 Ram 3500 with the HO Cummins engine. A dealer told me last year with I got the limp mode message a dpf is $4k, if you go to any of the mopar part websites (where they discount parts) the dpf doesn’t even come up as an available part. They will show up in the image, but they don’t come up in the individual parts.
 
Greg10yes said:
I may give it a try when we get back from our next trip. Tired of the frequent regens. When I filled out the online webform, I said it was a 2020 Ram 3500 with the HO Cummins engine. A dealer told me last year with I got the limp mode message a dpf is $4k, if you go to any of the mopar part websites (where they discount parts) the dpf doesn’t even come up as an available part. They will show up in the image, but they don’t come up in the individual parts.
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It comes up for me, it also comes up as available with my local Stellantis parts warehouse
 

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