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Automatic Regen too often

oledirteh said:
you just cant cure stupidity by leaving the thread. stick around and learn a thing or two. Regardless what you see or do not see, your truck will regen every 24hrs regardless.

Sucks to be wrong, but from what i can tell you are not a woman and can say sorry for being wrong any time you want.
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You are a victim of yourself.
He's not wrong! You missed what he said. He never said it wouldn't regen every 24 hours, he said his data was not a 24-hour regen. You are not the only one who has made incorrect statements on this thread and wants to accuse him of being wrong. Everything he has said is correct (except for the snake oil opinion).
 
TomTom said:
People on this thread who track very closely, myself included, have documented reductions in soot loading with using certain Archoil products.
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He posted documentation, will you share yours?
 
TomTom said:
I have no idea what you are trying to say. I re read it and stand by my opinion.
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I'm trying to point out that he said, " my speed average is 46 mph. 46 x 24 = 1,104 miles." And I may have misread your post.
Re-reading it it seems that you agree. I apologize
 
John Jensen said:
You are a victim of yourself.
He's not wrong! You missed what he said. He never said it wouldn't regen every 24 hours, he said his data was not a 24-hour regen. You are not the only one who has made incorrect statements on this thread and wants to accuse him of being wrong. Everything he has said is correct (except for the snake oil opinion).
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The only thing he said in his post was that he was ignorant of two things: that 24 hour time based Regens do exist in these trucks and that he doesn’t know what data his scan gauge is representing. He thinks it’s only spot based % which is wrong.

If he was unaware that time based Regens do occur, I highly doubt he was tracking the engine hours and could say definitively that they were not occurring.
 
Deltron said:
I guess it's a shame Banks iDash and Scanguage lie about regens then along with the odometer in the truck.

Oh, my speed average is 46 mph. 46 x 24 = 1,104 miles, I regen more often then that. Think about it, that's a regen roughly every 19 to 20 hours on these trips, simple math.

I'm done with this stupidity.
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You are assuming that the dpf% on your tools are only showing one figure, soot load, which is inaccurate.
 
Disagreements are the core of great discussions. Let’s all agree to disagree and not derail a good thread.
 
RTillery said:
Another Archoil report: So far I'm shocked. I'm kind of a sceptic when it comes to additives as most of my past experiences have left me thinking "snake oil". My 19 HO with 112,000 miles has done many long highway trips and usually I'd notice no regens (other than 24hr) as long as my speeds were up. On a recent trip from Colorado to New York, I first noticed a couple of regens going and coming. I started noticing more frequent regens and they were taking longer, sometimes up to an hour to clear. I just did a trip from Colorado to Northern Saskatchewan 2800 miles, and had a couple more even running 76-80 mph. I ordered the 6400D and 6500 kit and on the first tank with the 6400D I'm noticing a significant difference.

I added the Archoil right after the last regen. The first full tank with the 6400D, my DPF gage quickly jumped to almost half full while driving around Denver doing a combo of city/highway. Before a half tank was consumed, my DPF gage had dropped to below 1/4. This morning I'm down to about a third of a tank remaining and my DPF has dropped to zero and has bounced from Zero to 1/8 to Zero again. I refilled and added 2 oz of 6500. I'm heading over the continental divide tomorrow on a 1000 mile trip but I'm optimistic that "Mighty Whitey" is back to acting normal on regens. I'll try to update when I get back.
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Update, I just did a trip through the Rockies of a little over 1000 miles running empty. Speeds 50-80 with also getting stuck in a couple of traffic jams. I was crawling along for combined over two hours. Mostly two lane mountain roads. When I left, my DPF gage started at about 12% and dropped to zero within the first 50 miles. It stayed there for the next two days and still at zero when I got an automatic regen notice. I had to stop within 15 minutes and when I restarted the truck, the notice was gone and my DPF gage was still reading zero. I added an ounce of Archoil 6500 per gallon as I made fuel stops. The gage never came off zero for the remainder of the trip. I'm amazed at the completely different action of the DPF readings since starting the Archoil treatment. I'm going to continue the 6500 through this bottle. I may lay off of it when it is used up and see if the frequent DPF gens symptoms come back. For now, I feel like the system is working like new. Amazing!
 
Units said:
Disagreements are the core of great discussions. Let’s all agree to disagree and not derail a good thread.
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My only concern is that bad information does not help people who are here to try and resolve an issue. In good faith I am trying to respond to what I perceive to be bad information.
 
I thought I saw someone mention this and can’t remember where I saw it.
I know the tail pipe should be clean, with no soot as long as your DPF filter is not damaged and working correctly. I have checked my tail pipe before and other than the road grime there wasn’t really any noticeable soot. Seems since I’ve used the archoil cleaner that I’ve got some minor soot in my tail pipe, maybe it just gave the DPF a real good cleaning and spit it out the other end, idk.
Anyone else noticed anything like that?
 
oledirteh said:
you just cant cure stupidity by leaving the thread. stick around and learn a thing or two. Regardless what you see or do not see, your truck will regen every 24hrs regardless.

Sucks to be wrong, but from what i can tell you are not a woman and can say sorry for being wrong any time you want.
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Are you incapable of reading? Mine's never made it to the 24 hour mark before it does a regen.
 
TomTom said:
Knowing Taylor Park and the passes you have to go over to get there, I think that average mph is very reasonable towing 15k lbs.
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Either Monarch at around 11k, Cottonwood at 12k or North Pass at 10k from Santa Fe. Monarch and North especially headed towards Gunnison is a long pull.

I don't push them, no reason for high EGTs.
 
Units said:
I thought I saw someone mention this and can’t remember where I saw it.
I know the tail pipe should be clean, with no soot as long as your DPF filter is not damaged and working correctly. I have checked my tail pipe before and other than the road grime there wasn’t really any noticeable soot. Seems since I’ve used the archoil cleaner that I’ve got some minor soot in my tail pipe, maybe it just gave the DPF a real good cleaning and spit it out the other end, idk.
Anyone else noticed anything like that?
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I had the exact same experience when running the 6400. It has since cleared up and nothing in it now but a few white spots.
 
Deltron said:
Are you incapable of reading? Mine's never made it to the 24 hour mark before it does a regen.
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If your truck is never having a 24 hr time based regen even when towing, then it does have a problem that the Archoil can’t fix. Our TT only weighs 7K pounds and my truck will passively regen within the first 30 miles and never show anything on the dash DPF gauge. Im currently at 696 miles and 21 hours since my last regen, empty, in town and very little or short highway runs of 15-20 miles. I know I would not have made it this far without the Archoil.
 
OLEJOE said:
If your truck is never having a 24 hr time based regen even when towing, then it does have a problem that the Archoil can’t fix. Our TT only weighs 7K pounds and my truck will passively regen within the first 30 miles and never show anything on the dash DPF gauge. Im currently at 696 miles and 21 hours since my last regen, empty, in town and very little or short highway runs of 15-20 miles. I know I would not have made it this far without the Archoil.
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I've noticed the soot load going up on the back side of passes and dropping climbing. The dash DPF gauge never shows anything. Climbing creates a lot of heat and could help with passive regen, coming down the backside it rapidly cools even with the heavy exhaust braking.

What I do know is two different identical 1,600mile trips, one with Archoil and one without, showed zero difference. Seems some don't believe that this actually happened. Maybe for city pavement queens Archoil does something, I didn't test that, only towing, the only real use for a diesel, where it did nothing.

Oh, the 2022 mileage and soot reports are extremely close to our 2018. Maybe I have two bad trucks from different years with nearly identical readings. The 2018 never made it 24 hours without a regen either. This might surprise you but at some point regen frequency goes up due to load and higher fuel consumption. With our trailer pulled by a 2018 HO and a 2022 HO the mileage and soot loading were very close. My neighbor that has gone on the same trip with a 2022 HO pulling 24k triple regens even more frequently. I believe he's around 8 mpg. This makes perfect sense, more fuel, more soot probably somewhat balanced by more heat for passive regen. I too have noticed this in heavy headwinds getting 7 or less mpg, soot goes up a bit faster. Heavy tailwinds at 12 mpg or so it climbs much more slowly. This might amaze you but generally more fuel burned, more particulates.

With a 7k trailer I probably wouldn't hit regens either until 24 hours, not enough fuel burned to cause a soot based regen. It's possible if I wasn't towing in mountains it might actually hit the 24 hour mark. Don't know, never towed with either truck anywhere but higher altitudes and/or mountains.

I can assure you, whatever you think, both trucks were doing exactly as intended.
 
Deltron said:
I've noticed the soot load going up on the back side of passes and dropping climbing. The dash DPF gauge never shows anything. Climbing creates a lot of heat and could help with passive regen, coming down the backside it rapidly cools even with the heavy exhaust braking.

What I do know is two different identical 1,600mile trips, one with Archoil and one without, showed zero difference. Seems some don't believe that this actually happened. Maybe for city pavement queens Archoil does something, I didn't test that, only towing, the only real use for a diesel, where it did nothing.

Oh, the 2022 mileage and soot reports are extremely close to our 2018. Maybe I have two bad trucks from different years with nearly identical readings. The 2018 never made it 24 hours without a regen either. This might surprise you but at some point regen frequency goes up due to load and higher fuel consumption. With our trailer pulled by a 2018 HO and a 2022 HO the mileage and soot loading were very close. My neighbor that has gone on the same trip with a 2022 HO pulling 24k triple regens even more frequently. I believe he's around 8 mpg. This makes perfect sense, more fuel, more soot probably somewhat balanced by more heat for passive regen. I too have noticed this in heavy headwinds getting 7 or less mpg, soot goes up a bit faster. Heavy tailwinds at 12 mpg or so it climbs much more slowly. This might amaze you but generally more fuel burned, more particulates.

With a 7k trailer I probably wouldn't hit regens either until 24 hours, not enough fuel burned to cause a soot based regen. It's possible if I wasn't towing in mountains it might actually hit the 24 hour mark. Don't know, never towed with either truck anywhere but higher altitudes and/or mountains.

I can assure you, whatever you think, both trucks were doing exactly as intended.
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I don’t know. I’m looking for answers on here just like everyone else. I don’t think my truck is having any issues other than shorter or higher regen frequency during warmer weather. When temperatures get below 80 degrees, it only regens every 24 hours.
 
Deltron said:
I've noticed the soot load going up on the back side of passes and dropping climbing. The dash DPF gauge never shows anything. Climbing creates a lot of heat and could help with passive regen, coming down the backside it rapidly cools even with the heavy exhaust braking.

What I do know is two different identical 1,600mile trips, one with Archoil and one without, showed zero difference. Seems some don't believe that this actually happened. Maybe for city pavement queens Archoil does something, I didn't test that, only towing, the only real use for a diesel, where it did nothing.

Oh, the 2022 mileage and soot reports are extremely close to our 2018. Maybe I have two bad trucks from different years with nearly identical readings. The 2018 never made it 24 hours without a regen either. This might surprise you but at some point regen frequency goes up due to load and higher fuel consumption. With our trailer pulled by a 2018 HO and a 2022 HO the mileage and soot loading were very close. My neighbor that has gone on the same trip with a 2022 HO pulling 24k triple regens even more frequently. I believe he's around 8 mpg. This makes perfect sense, more fuel, more soot probably somewhat balanced by more heat for passive regen. I too have noticed this in heavy headwinds getting 7 or less mpg, soot goes up a bit faster. Heavy tailwinds at 12 mpg or so it climbs much more slowly. This might amaze you but generally more fuel burned, more particulates.

With a 7k trailer I probably wouldn't hit regens either until 24 hours, not enough fuel burned to cause a soot based regen. It's possible if I wasn't towing in mountains it might actually hit the 24 hour mark. Don't know, never towed with either truck anywhere but higher altitudes and/or mountains.

I can assure you, whatever you think, both trucks were doing exactly as intended.
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Owners that are having "Frequent Regen Issues" on this thread are trying to solve for something that you are not experiencing. Your experience with Archoil is irrelevant since your use case does not fit within the stated issue of this thread. 800+ mile regens should not be considered frequent. I want everyone to understand this as it confuses the knowledge base being built on this thread when you start throwing products (which you still haven't stated which Archoil product you used) under the bus for not addressing an issue you weren't experiencing.
 
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