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Automatic Regen too often

TomTom said:
It would be awesome to see how the ground is spliced into the wiring at the sensor! Thanks!
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Yeah I’m working on that pic. Hopefully he gets a chance to crawl under the truck. I’m not a fan of how the dealership executed the repair. That small wire will be the victim of corrosion very quickly if left unprotected like that. It’s ok for diagnostic run but isn’t a good idea for the long term
 
I read somewhere that one person was having recurring issues with the DP sensor and they modified the condensate drain from the AC and it fixed the issue. IDK
 
OLEJOE said:
I read somewhere that one person was having recurring issues with the DP sensor and they modified the condensate drain from the AC and it fixed the issue. IDK
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Was it dripping on the sensor or something? Isn’t it protected by a shield?
 
TomTom said:
Was it dripping on the sensor or something? Isn’t it protected by a shield?
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I don’t know what the details were. But he said it was on a 19’. So maybe they made a change of some kind to prevent that from happening or maybe not.
 
My Archoil results.

Two identical trips from Hereford Arizona to Taylor Park CO. 2022 dually HO, 4:10 gears. Weather temperatures roughly the same. Fresh oil change with Amsoil and AB air filter both trips.

Last year, 1,641 miles, 9.7 mpg, regen at 887 miles towing a 34' 5th wheel toy hauler @ roughly 15k lbs.

This year, exact same dates and distance with Archoil, same trailer. 1,642 miles, 9.5 mpg, regen at 923 miles.

Both trips very similar temperatures, same fuel stations, speed limits adhered to except 68 mph in 75 mph zones. One tank of fuel with the Archoil deviated from the first trip with less mileage likely due to wind. I think the regen was a bit longer because the truck was working harder on the one tank. As far as I can tell Archoil did zero.

Personally I think the Archoil based on my results is expensive snake oil. I cannot test lubricity so won't comment on this other than there's WAY cheaper alternatives to do this such as Diesel Kleen.
 
Deltron said:
My Archoil results.

Two identical trips from Hereford Arizona to Taylor Park CO. 2022 dually HO, 4:10 gears. Weather temperatures roughly the same. Fresh oil change with Amsoil and AB air filter both trips.

Last year, 1,641 miles, 9.7 mpg, regen at 887 miles towing a 34' 5th wheel toy hauler @ roughly 15k lbs.

This year, exact same dates and distance with Archoil, same trailer. 1,642 miles, 9.5 mpg, regen at 923 miles.

Both trips very similar temperatures, same fuel stations, speed limits adhered to except 68 mph in 75 mph zones. One tank of fuel with the Archoil deviated from the first trip with less mileage likely due to wind. I think the regen was a bit longer because the truck was working harder on the one tank. As far as I can tell Archoil did zero.

Personally I think the Archoil based on my results is expensive snake oil. I cannot test lubricity so won't comment on this other than there's WAY cheaper alternatives to do this such as Diesel Kleen.
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Respectfully, your use case is not the same as what people on the thread are using Archoil for. With both of those trips you were likely hitting the time limit on the regen (24hr) and therefore haven’t been experiencing frequent Regens.

Your judgement on Archoil is irrelevant in this case and I would caution making such statements without fully understanding the fundamental issue being discussed in this thread.
 
TomTom said:
Respectfully, your use case is not the same as what people on the thread are using Archoil for. With both of those trips you were likely hitting the time limit on the regen (24hr) and therefore haven’t been experiencing frequent Regens.

Your judgement on Archoil is irrelevant in this case and I would caution making such statements without fully understanding the fundamental issue being discussed in this thread.
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Respectfully, your calculation might be wrong. If he averages 60mph the 24-hour mark would be 1440 miles. His regen mileages would mean he only averaged 38mph. I don't think he's hitting the 24-hour mark.

He reported excellent data and I believe it is relevant. The only difference is he's not experiencing the frequent regens discussed in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with his statement!
 
TomTom said:
Respectfully, your use case is not the same as what people on the thread are using Archoil for. With both of those trips you were likely hitting the time limit on the regen (24hr) and therefore haven’t been experiencing frequent Regens.

Your judgement on Archoil is irrelevant in this case and I would caution making such statements without fully understanding the fundamental issue being discussed in this thread.
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I agree, while I have not noticed ANY appreciable mpg gains; as they claim; I HAVE experienced longer mileage between regens using my truck as a DD. Pulling my TT I didn’t even bother using it because not long after hooking up and pulling my TT my DPF gauge goes to zero and stays there due to the higher and more consistent EGTs vs just DD’ing my truck.
 
TomTom said:
Respectfully, your use case is not the same as what people on the thread are using Archoil for. With both of those trips you were likely hitting the time limit on the regen (24hr) and therefore haven’t been experiencing frequent Regens.

Your judgement on Archoil is irrelevant in this case and I would caution making such statements without fully understanding the fundamental issue being discussed in this thread.
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Neither one was time based. The Scanguage showed the counting up on soot and regened exactly when it hit 100%. I've NEVER had a time based regen since the truck is solely used for towing almost 100% on the highway and I keep very precise records of regens, fuel consumption, etc? Honestly I'm not even sure about the 24 hour bit since I've never seen a regen on this truck or my prior trucks that regened at 24 hours, only when at 100% soot load. My old 09 DMax regened every 400 miles no matter what, it was GM programming. I've seen no evidence there's any kind of timer in the RAM, at least under my usage. My guess is it regens before 24 hours every single time if there is a timer.

Now, kindly tell me "fundamentally" what Archoil is doing if it has zero effect on mileage or soot loading? I CLEARLY noted I cannot comment on lubricity since I have no way of testing it. If it works doing that but has no effect on mileage or soot loading then why spend the money when there's MUCH cheaper alternatives that do lubricity?
 
John Jensen said:
Respectfully, your calculation might be wrong. If he averages 60mph the 24-hour mark would be 1440 miles. His regen mileages would mean he only averaged 38mph. I don't think he's hitting the 24-hour mark.

He reported excellent data and I believe it is relevant. The only difference is he's not experiencing the frequent regens discussed in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with his statement!
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But calling out the product as “snake oil” is not accurate. He was comparing his miles to regen and mpg differences. Active regens, as you know are on a 24 hr timer and it has been discussed here, which he clearly was hitting, speed and mileage being the deciding factor.
There are folks who tow but yet still are having frequent regens, they have a problem. So, towing and claiming archoil does nothing, I believe is not relevant.
 
Deltron said:
Neither one was time based. The Scanguage showed the counting up on soot and regened exactly when it hit 100%. I've NEVER had a time based regen since the truck is solely used for towing almost 100% on the highway and I keep very precise records of regens, fuel consumption, etc? Honestly I'm not even sure about the 24 hour bit since I've never seen a regen on this truck or my prior trucks that regened at 24 hours, only when at 100% soot load. My old 09 DMax regened every 400 miles no matter what, it was GM programming. I've seen no evidence there's any kind of timer in the RAM, at least under my usage. My guess is it regens before 24 hours every single time if there is a timer.

Now, kindly tell me "fundamentally" what Archoil is doing if it has zero effect on mileage or soot loading? I CLEARLY noted I cannot comment on lubricity since I have no way of testing it. If it works doing that but has no effect on mileage or soot loading then why spend the money when there's MUCH cheaper alternatives that do lubricity?
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Welp, you are regenning every 24 hours. if you are towing, and you go into a regen, that is the 24hr regen. if its not, then somethings not right with your truck.
 
John Jensen said:
Respectfully, your calculation might be wrong. If he averages 60mph the 24-hour mark would be 1440 miles. His regen mileages would mean he only averaged 38mph. I don't think he's hitting the 24-hour mark.

He reported excellent data and I believe it is relevant. The only difference is he's not experiencing the frequent regens discussed in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with his statement!
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I was experiencing frequent regens at one time. The first 15k miles was perfect. That was the first trip I posted. Just after 15k suddenly the truck went crazy on regens, sometimes 30 miles or less.

The dealer replaced the MAF which the tech showed me was erratic on their wiTECH. We did the MAF learn and thought it was OK. It wasn't so they replaced the DPF. It appears this corrected the issue. The tech believes the MAF damaged the DPF or the DPF also had a fault that later showed up. Oddly a weird knocking noise under heavy acceleration started just after 15k that sounded mechanical like a faulty wrist pin or cracked skirt at the same time of frequent regens. When the MAF was replaced this noise went away.

I, along with the tech, are at a complete loss as to what the noise could have been. Maybe it was a coincidence, I don't know.

Any assertion as some have made putting Archoil or any other diesel treatment to fix DPF, MAF or any other emissions faults is ludicrous. It reminds me of the guys putting a small can of octane boost in their cars and claiming it makes them faster.
 
oledirteh said:
Welp, you are regenning every 24 hours. if you are towing, and you go into a regen, that is the 24hr regen. if its not, then somethings not right with your truck.
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I guess it's a shame Banks iDash and Scanguage lie about regens then along with the odometer in the truck.

Oh, my speed average is 46 mph. 46 x 24 = 1,104 miles, I regen more often then that. Think about it, that's a regen roughly every 19 to 20 hours on these trips, simple math.

I'm done with this stupidity.
 
Deltron said:
I guess it's a shame Banks iDash and Scanguage lie about regens then along with the odometer in the truck.

Oh, my speed average is 46 mph. 46 x 24 = 1,104 miles, I regen more often then that. Think about it, that's a regen roughly every 19 to 20 hours on these trips, simple math.

I'm done with this stupidity.
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you just cant cure stupidity by leaving the thread. stick around and learn a thing or two. Regardless what you see or do not see, your truck will regen every 24hrs regardless.

Sucks to be wrong, but from what i can tell you are not a woman and can say sorry for being wrong any time you want.
 
Units said:
But calling out the product as “snake oil” is not accurate. He was comparing his miles to regen and mpg differences. Active regens, as you know are on a 24 hr timer and it has been discussed here, which he clearly was hitting, speed and mileage being the deciding factor.
There are folks who tow but yet still are having frequent regens, they have a problem. So, towing and claiming archoil does nothing, I believe is not relevant.
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He's entitled to his opinion just as you are entitled to yours
 
John Jensen said:
Respectfully, your calculation might be wrong. If he averages 60mph the 24-hour mark would be 1440 miles. His regen mileages would mean he only averaged 38mph. I don't think he's hitting the 24-hour mark.

He reported excellent data and I believe it is relevant. The only difference is he's not experiencing the frequent regens discussed in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with his statement!
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Knowing Taylor Park and the passes you have to go over to get there, I think that average mph is very reasonable towing 15k lbs.
 
Deltron said:
Neither one was time based. The Scanguage showed the counting up on soot and regened exactly when it hit 100%. I've NEVER had a time based regen since the truck is solely used for towing almost 100% on the highway and I keep very precise records of regens, fuel consumption, etc? Honestly I'm not even sure about the 24 hour bit since I've never seen a regen on this truck or my prior trucks that regened at 24 hours, only when at 100% soot load. My old 09 DMax regened every 400 miles no matter what, it was GM programming. I've seen no evidence there's any kind of timer in the RAM, at least under my usage. My guess is it regens before 24 hours every single time if there is a timer.

Now, kindly tell me "fundamentally" what Archoil is doing if it has zero effect on mileage or soot loading? I CLEARLY noted I cannot comment on lubricity since I have no way of testing it. If it works doing that but has no effect on mileage or soot loading then why spend the money when there's MUCH cheaper alternatives that do lubricity?
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People on this thread who track very closely, myself included, have documented reductions in soot loading with using certain Archoil products.
 
Deltron said:
I was experiencing frequent regens at one time. The first 15k miles was perfect. That was the first trip I posted. Just after 15k suddenly the truck went crazy on regens, sometimes 30 miles or less.

The dealer replaced the MAF which the tech showed me was erratic on their wiTECH. We did the MAF learn and thought it was OK. It wasn't so they replaced the DPF. It appears this corrected the issue. The tech believes the MAF damaged the DPF or the DPF also had a fault that later showed up. Oddly a weird knocking noise under heavy acceleration started just after 15k that sounded mechanical like a faulty wrist pin or cracked skirt at the same time of frequent regens. When the MAF was replaced this noise went away.

I, along with the tech, are at a complete loss as to what the noise could have been. Maybe it was a coincidence, I don't know.

Any assertion as some have made putting Archoil or any other diesel treatment to fix DPF, MAF or any other emissions faults is ludicrous. It reminds me of the guys putting a small can of octane boost in their cars and claiming it makes them faster.
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No one has made the assertion they it fixes anything. There has been a demonstration of certain products reducing soot load/increasing passive regeneration.
 
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