2025 2500 with 11,040 GVWR/over 3k diesel payload?!

[Airtim]

Anyone heard or know if Ram is going to send out updated stickers to those trucks with the 10000 stickers since clearly there were no hardware changes? I'm guessing not but it would suck for those using a 2025 with the pre-new certification getting a violation if they exceed the "old" sticker when the truck is newly certified.

It is rare for people towing for personal use get a violation. you would have to be doing something pretty bad for them to notice/care.

If you are for hire then you would want the 10K GVWR either to avoid have a DOT number or if you dont have a CDL. Otherwises get a 3500-5500. a 2500 axle rating is pretty limited for comercial use.

Thay said I bought mine because I don't have a CDL and the truck and trailer have a combined limit of 26,000.

 

[DarkHorse8]

What are the payload numbers for a 2500 mega cab CTD?

Looks like the 2500 Mega Cab Limited’s payload is now 2,740 pounds.

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Can anybody confirm this to be real? I’m referring to the 2025 Limited Mega Cab payload of 2740 pounds.

Excuse the ignorance. I’ve been away off the grid for over 2 months. Just got back to civilization and the internet today.

I’m ready to order soon.

 

[HarryN]

What are the payload numbers for a 2500 mega cab CTD?


Can anybody confirm this to be real? I’m referring to the 2025 Limited Mega Cab payload of 2740 pounds.

Excuse the ignorance. I’ve been away off the grid for over 2 months. Just got back to civilization and the internet today.

I’m ready to order soon.

Personally I don't see how it is possible, but what do I know.

Megacab is usually 4wd, cummins, air leveling. Either the ram box or 5th wheel prep package. 6 k lb rear axle in the 2500.

The front axle has at most 1 000 lbs of capacity left with the cummins and transmission up front.

Either the 6K lb rear axle rating is real or it isn't. If it is real, then it takes going up to the 7K lb rated 3500 SRW to get that payload.

But I am open to someone showing a concrete example of how it can be done and stay within all of the ratings on a 2500 version without stripping out the air leveling, and that is needed for real world use at that payload or it will look like an overloaded subcompact going down the road.

 

[DougB]

Personally I don't see how it is possible, but what do I know.

Megacab is usually 4wd, cummins, air leveling. Either the ram box or 5th wheel prep package. 6 k lb rear axle in the 2500.

The front axle has at most 1 000 lbs of capacity left with the cummins and transmission up front.

Either the 6K lb rear axle rating is real or it isn't. If it is real, then it takes going up to the 7K lb rated 3500 SRW to get that payload.

But I am open to someone showing a concrete example of how it can be done and stay within all of the ratings on a 2500 version without stripping out the air leveling, and that is needed for real world use at that payload or it will look like an overloaded subcompact going down the road.

I could see a 2025 Limited having 2740 payload.

Using my 2022 Laramie MC as an example. It has payload of 1922 with 10k GVWR. Add another 1040 in GVWR and that would give me 2962. Limited has a few more options so the added weight is about right I would think.

FYI - my front axle carries 5100-5200. So yes it’s close to the 6k limit. The 2025 didn’t change the 6000/6040 GAWRs so you’ll still need to watch your axle ratings.

 

[AH64ID]

Personally I don't see how it is possible, but what do I know.

Megacab is usually 4wd, cummins, air leveling. Either the ram box or 5th wheel prep package. 6 k lb rear axle in the 2500.

The front axle has at most 1 000 lbs of capacity left with the cummins and transmission up front.

Either the 6K lb rear axle rating is real or it isn't. If it is real, then it takes going up to the 7K lb rated 3500 SRW to get that payload.

But I am open to someone showing a concrete example of how it can be done and stay within all of the ratings on a 2500 version without stripping out the air leveling, and that is needed for real world use at that payload or it will look like an overloaded subcompact going down the road.

Doesn't seem that far fetched at all, in fact it seems very accurate. The base published payload for a MC Laramie is 2900 the one listed above appears to have 160lbs of options on top of that, not bad for a Level 1 Limited with the 5th Wheel Prep.

The RAWR hasn't changed with the increased GVWR. The stock coil springs are definitely adequate for a 6K RAWR, but the air suspension is better for several reasons.

 

[Jmonty]

Agree, math says it's possible but it all comes down to options on that truck, I would be surprised if a limited would be that high still with all the base options it adds but who know.

GVWR: 11040 - 10190 = 850
If the 10190 MC has base payload of 2050 then 2050+850 = 2,900.

For what its worth my 2025 3500 Laramie MC is GVWR of 12300 and payload on the sticker of 3831.

 

[DarkHorse8]

Just need to be sure. I really like the ride quality of the OEM suspension on the 2500. I use to not be one for looking for ride quality in a truck but after putting many miles on the 2500 rental I had, I really like the quality. This will be travel rig mostly unloaded with seasonal tow.

Looking for more door stickers of the exact or similar setup I want in a Mega Cab Limited.

 

[Jmonty]

I just came from a 2500 CC to a 3500 MC and the ride is no different to me after 1k miles. I would test drive them both yourself to be certain. The extra payload makes me like the ride even better

 

[DarkHorse8]

I just came from a 2500 CC to a 3500 MC and the ride is no different to me after 1k miles. I would test drive them both yourself to be certain. The extra payload makes me like the ride even better

Thanks for your input. Do the CC and MC have factory air? I’m assuming the length of the MC makes the ride more comfortable along with the added towing stability.

 

[Jmonty]

Neither of mine were factory air. Thats my current assumption for my seat feel the longer wheel base of the MC even with leaf springs feels fine compared to shorter wheel base spring setup the 2500 had. I think thats why test drive is important you might have different ride opinions than me. My 2500 "floated" which I'm sure helped it be smoother on those really big hits but anytime we went over bridge joints etc I hated the bouncing (I'm 100% positive a good set of shocks would have helped a ton). Just putting out there that the 3500 ride is not at all what I thought it would be, I am pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoined my 780 mile drive home from the dealership. I think almost everyone here with a 3500 that had a 2500 would agree, wish we bought the 1ton the first time

 

[DarkHorse8]

Neither of mine were factory air. Thats my current assumption for my seat feel the longer wheel base of the MC even with leaf springs feels fine compared to shorter wheel base spring setup the 2500 had. I think thats why test drive is important you might have different ride opinions than me. My 2500 "floated" which I'm sure helped it be smoother on those really big hits but anytime we went over bridge joints etc I hated the bouncing (I'm 100% positive a good set of shocks would have helped a ton). Just putting out there that the 3500 ride is not at all what I thought it would be, I am pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoined my 780 mile drive home from the dealership. I think almost everyone here with a 3500 that had a 2500 would agree, wish we bought the 1ton the first time

Why didn’t you get factory air?

 

[Jmonty]

Cost and flexibility, 1700+ bucks wasn't worth it and I want full control of the bags/height/setup that the system (at least from what I've seen) doesn't have. Ive seen enough guys with leafs who went with dedicated bags and softer springs/shackles that said the ride was great that I decided to go that route. Also didn't want to add another tattle-tail to report to Ram on what ever weight I decide I need to put in the truck at any given time, the truck has enough of those already built in to help them void your warranty (don't come at me tow police I am WAY under my numbers now with the upgrade just saying).

 

[DarkHorse8]

What is everyone’s thoughts on going with a 2500 non air and Timbrens?

 

[AH64ID]

Personally not a fan of Timbren’s. I prefer the adjustability of airbags and will add bags to my 2500 if I want more support.

 

[Brutal_HO]

What is everyone’s thoughts on going with a 2500 non air and Timbrens?

If you like riding on what are essentially bumpstops.

 

[johnmyster]

Personally I don't see how it is possible, but what do I know.

Megacab is usually 4wd, cummins, air leveling. Either the ram box or 5th wheel prep package. 6 k lb rear axle in the 2500.

The front axle has at most 1 000 lbs of capacity left with the cummins and transmission up front.

Either the 6K lb rear axle rating is real or it isn't. If it is real, then it takes going up to the 7K lb rated 3500 SRW to get that payload.

But I am open to someone showing a concrete example of how it can be done and stay within all of the ratings on a 2500 version without stripping out the air leveling, and that is needed for real world use at that payload or it will look like an overloaded subcompact going down the road.

Seems very real and very possible to me.

Our truck is a 2014 3500 megacab, so it isn't the same animal, but pretty close. My most recent scale ticket with our travel trailer (about 1700 pounds hitch weight) shows 5100 pounds front axle, 5700 rear.

So I'm within the hypothetical 6k RAWR and only 200 pounds under a hypothetical 11k GVWR (with 300 pounds of remaining RAW to get there). If I ran more WD hitch tension or had a 5th wheel instead, more RAW reserve would be available.

11k is do-able on a 6k RAWR.

FWIW, my truck is 6k/7k and 12,400.

 

[DarkHorse8]

So much to consider when spending so much money. Wanna do it right the first time.

After a conversation with the customer support from Thuren, I think I’ll get a non air 3500 Mega Cab and do a 2.25” Thuren leveling kit. I like the “OEM-Plus” look. Leaving the rear stock with Fox Remote Reservoir upgrade will be more suitable for gooseneck towing.

After a lot of research, I find that the Thuren leveling kit will better suit my comfort. I’m not looking for a “Cadillac” feel. I want somewhat firm and responsive with a nice balance of comfort. I doubt that starting with the 2.25” Thuren is a good place to start vs Carli Backcountry which is a soft boaty feel and Carli Pintop which is more on the firmer side.

Dropping the mic on this one. Tired of getting lost in searching for the “best” option. Just need to do it.

Still running Toyo MT 37x17R17 with 17” Innov8 Wheels. Trying to achieve a similar stance to Thurens white 2500 in his YouTube video.

 

[johnmyster]

So much to consider when spending so much money. Wanna do it right the first time.

After a conversation with the customer support from Thuren, I think I’ll get a non air 3500 Mega Cab and do a 2.25” Thuren leveling kit. I like the “OEM-Plus” look. Leaving the rear stock with Fox Remote Reservoir upgrade will be more suitable for gooseneck towing.

After a lot of research, I find that the Thuren leveling kit will better suit my comfort. I’m not looking for a “Cadillac” feel. I want somewhat firm and responsive with a nice balance of comfort. I doubt that starting with the 2.25” Thuren is a good place to start vs Carli Backcountry which is a soft boaty feel and Carli Pintop which is more on the firmer side.

Dropping the mic on this one. Tired of getting lost in searching for the “best” option. Just need to do it.

Still running Toyo MT 37x17R17 with 17” Innov8 Wheels. Trying to achieve a similar stance to Thurens white 2500 in his YouTube video.

If by customer support team you mean Zeb, you'll be happy.

I don't think the newer trucks sit as high in the rear as 13-18, so I'd suggest getting the truck first and then figuring out which springs to get. I got about 3/4" to 1" of front lift on Thuren's TF-350 springs on my older mega 3500. I'd guess TF-350 springs to be right at 2" of front lift. Maybe add more to taste if you plan on adding blocks to the rear.

 

[DarkHorse8]

If by customer support team you mean Zeb, you'll be happy.

I don't think the newer trucks sit as high in the rear as 13-18, so I'd suggest getting the truck first and then figuring out which springs to get. I got about 3/4" to 1" of front lift on Thuren's TF-350 springs on my older mega 3500. I'd guess TF-350 springs to be right at 2" of front lift. Maybe add more to taste if you plan on adding blocks to the rear.

Yep. I spoke with Zeb and Andrew and did some more digging after I got off the phone with them.

The rear of the non air 3500 is already pretty high. I doubt I’ll add blocks to the rear.

You are correct. I’ll start measuring once I get the truck and go from there.

 

[johanh13]

So much to consider when spending so much money. Wanna do it right the first time.

After a conversation with the customer support from Thuren, I think I’ll get a non air 3500 Mega Cab and do a 2.25” Thuren leveling kit. I like the “OEM-Plus” look. Leaving the rear stock with Fox Remote Reservoir upgrade will be more suitable for gooseneck towing.

After a lot of research, I find that the Thuren leveling kit will better suit my comfort. I’m not looking for a “Cadillac” feel. I want somewhat firm and responsive with a nice balance of comfort. I doubt that starting with the 2.25” Thuren is a good place to start vs Carli Backcountry which is a soft boaty feel and Carli Pintop which is more on the firmer side.

Dropping the mic on this one. Tired of getting lost in searching for the “best” option. Just need to do it.

Still running Toyo MT 37x17R17 with 17” Innov8 Wheels. Trying to achieve a similar stance to Thurens white 2500 in his YouTube video.

Which innov8 wheels do you have ? How about some photos? I have the G700's in 17x8.5" +25mm....