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2025 2500 with 11,040 GVWR/over 3k diesel payload?!

bbechtel16 said:
Congrats sir! I checked the GVWR on like 10 new rams coming to dealers near me and none of them had the higher rating
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You may have to look closer at the webpages.

On mine it initially lists the 10kgvwr in the standard features tab. However if I go to the options tab it shows the 11040 gvwr option.

I’ve kind of decided that each dealer site displays an interpretation of the build sheet. Some websites seem to accept the input format of the build sheet better than others.
 
DarkHorse8 said:
After going back and forth with this so many times, I think I’ll stick with the 3500 Mega Cab SRW w/ factor air. Think this will hit all the boxes for me. I was recently told the longer wheel base of the Mega Cab will add some towing stability. I did not think about this before.

I’ve been trying very hard to make an informed purchase.
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Maybe a bit, though IMO you'd be hard pressed to notice the towing difference of CC vs MC. These trucks all have amazing "towing stability", SRW and DRW and short or long bed. These trucks are rarely the problem when it comes to towing, has much more to do with hitch and trailer.
 
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I have been studying this as well - playing with the ram web site configurations.

So starting with a 3500 SRW megacab and wanting the ram box setup and limited trim ( sort of forced into this by the desire for rambox and megacab )

Air assist leveling package.

What "seems" to happen is that if you click on the package that adds the tow attachment points in the bed, it deletes the ram box and makes it a max tow type arrangement. Not completely sure what this means in terms of what is really happening.

I have not tried this on the 2500 but might be similar.
 
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HarryN said:
I have been studying this as well - playing with the ram web site configurations.

So starting with a 3500 SRW megacab and wanting the ram box setup and limited trim ( sort of forced into this by the desire for rambox and megacab )

Air assist leveling package.

What "seems" to happen is that if you click on the package that adds the tow attachment points in the bed, it deletes the ram box and makes it a max tow type arrangement. Not completely sure what this means in terms of what is really happening.

I have not tried this on the 2500 but might be similar.
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You cannot configure a 5th wheel prep and rambox together, this has never been available.

Not sure why the change would force max tow, which is a dually only option.
 
Brutal_HO said:
You cannot configure a 5th wheel prep and rambox together, this has never been available.

Not sure why the change would force max tow, which is a dually only option.
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I might be using the wrong terminology - perhaps it changes the numbers to a higher rating vs max tow.

I have seen a megacab SRW megacab that had a gooseneck hitch and what looked very similar to the ram setup, but perhaps it was aftermarket.

Edit - went back and corrected that changing to a bed that has the 5th wheel preparation is a different bed than one with a ram box. For me personally, I want the ram box version, as I plan to have a sort of DIY camper with it but need a place for tools like that.
 
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HarryN said:
I might be using the wrong terminology - perhaps it changes the numbers to a higher rating vs max tow.

I have seen a megacab SRW megacab that had a gooseneck hitch and what looked very similar to the ram setup, but perhaps it was aftermarket.
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People have added GN and 5th wheel preps to Ram Box trucks, but it’s not an OEM option
 
@HarryN There is an option to add just the 5th wheel/gooseneck prep and that will delete the Ram boxes. You don’t have to ad the entire “Max Tow Package”.
 
HarryN said:
I might be using the wrong terminology - perhaps it changes the numbers to a higher rating vs max tow.

I have seen a megacab SRW megacab that had a gooseneck hitch and what looked very similar to the ram setup, but perhaps it was aftermarket.
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Yes, not to nitpick, but for much of these options words matter. Max Tow is a (forced) Dually option thing that adds the 5th wheel prep, a 30K Mopar (Curt) hitch, and (used to) change the rear end gearing.

So your exercise in configuration changes it from 10,000 GVWR to 11,040 GVWR?
 
DarkHorse8 said:
@HarryN There is an option to add just the 5th wheel/gooseneck prep and that will delete the Ram boxes. You don’t have to ad the entire “Max Tow Package”.
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It doesn't sound like that's what he did, he just used the wrong term to describe what happened.

Choosing "Max Tow" would force it to a dually among the other things listed above.
 
DarkHorse8 said:
Looks like the 2500 Mega Cab Limited’s payload is now 2,740 pounds.

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Interesting…that means something like a Big Horn or Laramie could be right around 3K.

Not gonna lie, that makes holding off on upgrading a little harder. A 2500 Megacab with decent payload is very tempting.
 
4FishLimit said:
Interesting…that means something like a Big Horn or Laramie could be right around 3K.

Not gonna lie, that makes holding off on upgrading a little harder. A 2500 Megacab with decent payload is very tempting.
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Agree

Waiting to see who’s going to deep dive the parts list to see if anything really changed or it’s purely the numbers game we all truly think it is.
 
DougB said:
Agree

Waiting to see who’s going to deep dive the parts list to see if anything really changed or it’s purely the numbers game we all truly think it is.
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That's what I am waiting for as well......

Just to throw in the mix for anyone with 2500 Rebels with the Cummins... I know Rebels are known for the low payload and towing compared to the other trims due to suspension, etc... but I wanted to have the best of both worlds to have the locking differential and slightly higher lift for off roading. I only trailer about 10,000 lbs max so figured the Rebel was a good choice to have more towing capacity than a 1500.

I am seeing a lot of "older" build 2500 Cummins Rebels i.e. February - March builds that have the 10,000 GVRW which equals to about 1,700 - 1,900 lbs of payload.

HOWEVER, magically Cummins Rebel builds after 04-25 now have 11,000 lb GVRW which shows payload sticker at 2,775 lbs

What did they do differently to achieve this?!

It sucks as my truck was built on 03-31-25 according to my tracker and is just arriving to my dealer, so first thing I'm going to do is look at my sticker...............

Any thoughts from anyone what the difference could be? different springs? or just the same truck with a new sticker?
 
It is well known that the 10,000 GVWR existed because of regulations/taxes. It would seem logical that they planned on upping the GVWR and designed the truck that way from the beginning. I bet dinner for 2 at Texas Roadhouse that is is just a sticker change.
 
Airtim said:
It is well known that the 10,000 GVWR existed because of regulations/taxes. It would seem logical that they planned on upping the GVWR and designed the truck that way from the beginning. I bet dinner for 2 at Texas Roadhouse that is is just a sticker change.
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That’s what I’m starting to think as well. Spoke with a few Ram reps who claim the same thing. Thanks for chiming in I appreciate that. It’s good to know.
 
DarkHorse8 said:
After going back and forth with this so many times, I think I’ll stick with the 3500 Mega Cab SRW w/ factor air. Think this will hit all the boxes for me. I was recently told the longer wheel base of the Mega Cab will add some towing stability. I did not think about this before.

I’ve been trying very hard to make an informed purchase.
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My '21 Laramie 3500 long bed with the standard Cummins has a payload of just shy of 4000 pounds. I was going to pull a 16.5K 5th wheel and was looking for the most payload available in a SRW. The long bed increased the payload and, for my towing needs, a 50Gal fuel tank which you can't get in a 2500. Don't know about stability but it also negated any worries with the front cap hitting the rear of the cab.
 
The question remains the rear axle rating - that is where every scenario fell apart for me on 2500 vs 3500 SRW megacab , 6-4 bed, ram box for random tools, and stuff.

- 1k in the cab ( I estimated 50 / 50 split for front / rear axle )
- 1k in the bed ( I estimated 100% on rear axle )
- 5K lb trailer ( I estimated 10 - 15% tongue weight )

Four adults on a vacation trip will be close to that.
 
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