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Wheel inset (inside fender)

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For anyone who has their Power Wagon, can you tell me how far inside the wheel arch/fender flare the face of the wheel sits? Meaning, if you drop a weighted string from the edge of the flare, how far does it sit from the face of the wheel?

Thanks.
 

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Bump - hopefully this is a simple request and would really help me out.
 

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Would love to help if mine would arrive! Its stuck in a railyard 30 miles from my house.
 

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Haha. If I knew where it was in Ohio, I would! At this point I'm biting my nails it shows up as ordered after a 6 month wait.
I get it - mine is about to ship (according to the dealer), and I'm ready to have it. Coincidentally, I will ship it straight from the dealer to Nuthouse Industries in Ohio to have them do all kinds of fun things with it.
 

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Mine just went into E status. Hopefully you get your answer before I get my truck.
 

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It's actually not as easy as it first seems. However, here goes

On the front, the tire at the bottom is approx. 1/2 inch inside the outside edge of the top of the flare.. The 'face' of the wheel is about 3in inside the tire.
So, about 3 inches.

But the face of the wheel isn't flat, so depends on where you measure it.

The fender flare isn't completely vertical, flat, so measured from the center top, widest bit. Measured from at the height of the rim, it's way different.

Don't have level ground, so eyed to make equal distance to top/bottom of the wheel. (Assuming 0 camber)
The back is different
Only measured 1 side, assuming the axle is centered with the body. (Depends on what tolerance you are talking about)

Also, I don't have standard wheels or tires or suspension height.
It's a 2020 if that makes any difference.

Might help if you explained what the measurement is for?
 

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It's actually not as easy as it first seems. However, here goes

On the front, the tire at the bottom is approx. 1/2 inch inside the outside edge of the top of the flare.. The 'face' of the wheel is about 3in inside the tire.
So, about 3 inches.

But the face of the wheel isn't flat, so depends on where you measure it.

The fender flare isn't completely vertical, flat, so measured from the center top, widest bit. Measured from at the height of the rim, it's way different.

Don't have level ground, so eyed to make equal distance to top/bottom of the wheel. (Assuming 0 camber)
The back is different
Only measured 1 side, assuming the axle is centered with the body. (Depends on what tolerance you are talking about)

Also, I don't have standard wheels or tires or suspension height.
It's a 2020 if that makes any difference.

Might help if you explained what the measurement is for?
Thanks - when you say you don’t have standard wheels or tires, do you mean your measurements above are not using OEM wheels / wheels with OEM measurements and offset?

Basically I’m trying to ascertain where my wheel face will sit relative to the fender flare (poke) when I use aftermarket wheels. If i know how far the stock face sits inside the wheel well, and i know that size/offset, it helps me visualize what my aftermarket offset will look like.
 

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Thanks - I’ve done the calcs, and know that my new wheel face will sit 57mm further out than stock. The piece I’m trying to get is where that face will sit relative to the fender flare, which is easy to figure out if I know where stock face sits relative to the flare. If stock sits 2” inside, the face should be flush; if stock sits 3” inside, my new wheel face will be 1” inside the flare at its widest point.
 

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Thanks - I’ve done the calcs, and know that my new wheel face will sit 57mm further out than stock. The piece I’m trying to get is where that face will sit relative to the fender flare, which is easy to figure out if I know where stock face sits relative to the flare. If stock sits 2” inside, the face should be flush; if stock sits 3” inside, my new wheel face will be 1” inside the flare at its widest point.
On mine, I just took into account the "coverage" measurement of the flares. I know I'm not helping you much, except for maybe bumping thread lol
Image 3-16-23 at 4.55 PM.jpg
 

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Thanks - when you say you don’t have standard wheels or tires, do you mean your measurements above are not using OEM wheels / wheels with OEM measurements and offset?

Basically I’m trying to ascertain where my wheel face will sit relative to the fender flare (poke) when I use aftermarket wheels. If i know how far the stock face sits inside the wheel well, and i know that size/offset, it helps me visualize what my aftermarket offset will look like.
Yes, non-standard Toyo AT3 295/70 r18 on Method 18x9 with -18 offset.
The wheel is 9inch wide, the tire is 11.8 inches wide

Basically the outside of the tire, lines up with the outside top of the fender flare.
(Ignoring that the axle isn't exactly centered with the body)

Might help visualize if using similar sort of size wheel/tire.

Of coarse, since the body/bumper/flare is considerably narrower down where the wheel is, it looks poked out from there.
 

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Yes, non-standard Toyo AT3 295/70 r18 on Method 18x9 with -18 offset.
The wheel is 9inch wide, the tire is 11.8 inches wide

Basically the outside of the tire, lines up with the outside top of the fender flare.
(Ignoring that the axle isn't exactly centered with the body)

Might help visualize if using similar sort of size wheel/tire.

Of coarse, since the body/bumper/flare is considerably narrower down where the wheel is, it looks poked out from there.
This is actually super helpful - thanks. Would love to see a photo of the poke if you have one.
 

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This is actually super helpful - thanks. Would love to see a photo of the poke if you have one.
Just taken now.

The steps are coming off, and 37s going on soon. Then looking at a suspension upgrade.
 

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