Ram 3500 5th wheel prep kit installation.

[allthatflash]

Hahahaha

 

[Brutal_HO]

It's a good hitch, it's just incompatible with any cushioned pinbox.

 

[allthatflash]

It's a good hitch, it's just incompatible with any cushioned pinbox.

Cushioned you mean like a torx system? Gen y style?

 

[Brutal_HO]

Cushioned you mean like a torx system? Gen y style?

Like a rotaflex or morryde,

The head on the Q-Series is setup different than the A-series.

They end up working against each other. Curt recommends against using a cushioned pinbox with the Q-Series.

 

[allthatflash]

Like a rotaflex or morryde,

The head on the Q-Series is setup different than the A-series.

They end up working against each other. Curt recommends against using a cushioned pinbox with the Q-Series.

Aaaah

 

[whitexc]

I installed the puck system in my ‘21 2500. It’s not a bad job but a little nerve racking. Lots of measuring and I drilled right down on the brackets. Hind sight I would have used a smaller hole saw than what they say. Same goes for the 7 pin plug in the bed. Buy a plug and play piece from Curt or one of the other manufacturers.

Using Tapatalk. Didn’t see all the post and that you had factory parts already. Another B&W fan here.

 

[allthatflash]

I installed the puck system in my ‘21 2500. It’s not a bad job but a little nerve racking. Lots of measuring and I drilled right down on the brackets. Hind sight I would have used a smaller hole saw than what they say. Same goes for the 7 pin plug in the bed. Buy a plug and play piece from Curt or one of the other manufacturers.

Using Tapatalk. Didn’t see all the post and that you had factory parts already. Another B&W fan here.

Ok thanks for the advice, u think it's coming down on me doing it myself... everyone I've called have said no... pathetic and they've gone to train to work in these damn vehicles. I guess my ASE cert from 1989 will rule them all. I haven't mechaniced in decades. But I'll get her done and proper. Technician my ass.

 

[G Mcpherson]

Layout is the Key. Take your time and you will be fine.

 

[allthatflash]

Layout is the Key. Take your time and you will be fine.

Will do

 

[unclelala]

It's a good hitch, it's just incompatible with any cushioned pinbox.

My pin box is a Road Armor with a front to back flex and a big square rubber grommet and seems to work well with my Mopar hitch.

 

[allthatflash]

My pin box is a Road Armor with a front to back flex and a big square rubber grommet and seems to work well with my Mopar hitch.

Does that flex cause chucking while driving? I hear a lot of these flex style give that.

 

[unclelala]

Does that flex cause chucking while driving? I hear a lot of these flex style give that.

As tender as a mothers love. see post #20 https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?...wheel-prep-kit-installation.16212/post-296321

 

[allthatflash]

As tender as a mothers love. see post #20 https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?...wheel-prep-kit-installation.16212/post-296321

Hahahaha

 

[Brutal_HO]

My pin box is a Road Armor with a front to back flex and a big square rubber grommet and seems to work well with my Mopar hitch.

I'd guess your pinbox rubber is over-rated for the RV and perhaps doesn't pivot/flex as much as most. Glad it's working for you.

I wish I had saved/could find the video showing just how bad a Q-series head and Rotaflex do not get along, make a ton of noise, and eventually destroy parts. An owner was having major issues and the combo was the cause. A call to Curt and they stated the two are not compatible. It's now listed on their website on every Q-Series model.

Due to the lower pivot and design of the Q-Series, Curt doesn't recommend them for any pivoting pinboxes. I believe the issue is primarily TOO much flex. That puts stress on the pinbox and hitch head that they weren't engineered for.

I mispoke when I added Morryde as I guess those are OK because they slide horizontally and don't pivot.

"Capacity limited to lowest-rated towing component; not compatible with articulating or turret-style pin boxes, such as Rota-Flex and Sidewinder"



A20 has no such restriction (note)

"Capacity limited to lowest-rated towing component"



Honestly don't know why Mopar continues to source the Q-series. Except for more front-back cushion, the A-series is a better hitch/head.

 

[unclelala]

I'd guess your pinbox rubber is over-rated for the RV and perhaps doesn't pivot/flex as much as most. Glad it's working for you.

I wish I had saved/could find the video showing just how bad a Q-series head and Rotaflex do not get along, make a ton of noise, and eventually destroy parts. An owner was having major issues and the combo was the cause. A call to Curt and they stated the two are not compatible. It's now listed on their website on every Q-Series model.

Due to the lower pivot and design of the Q-Series, Curt doesn't recommend them for any pivoting pinboxes. I believe the issue is primarily TOO much flex. That puts stress on the pinbox and hitch head that they weren't engineered for.

I mispoke when I added Morryde as I guess those are OK because they slide horizontally and don't pivot.

"Capacity limited to lowest-rated towing component; not compatible with articulating or turret-style pin boxes, such as Rota-Flex and Sidewinder"

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A20 has no such restriction (note)

"Capacity limited to lowest-rated towing component"

View attachment 68407

Honestly don't know why Mopar continues to source the Q-series. Except for more front-back cushion, the A-series is a better hitch/head.

My hitch is quiet in all situations and behaves on bridges, train tracks etc. I imagine the front to back movement must be quite limited judging how solid that rubber is. At the same time even loaded up I doubt I exceed 10500 lbs. so I'm only just going over half its recommended weight and not pushing its limits by any means. So Ill use it for a while yet or till the 5th wheel falls off the back

 

[Jsrunnlus]

I installed the oem parts in my 2019 without any issues. Measure, measure and measure again. The trim rings snap in and you don't want the holes too close to the mount or sheet metal cut larger than the trim will cover.
If you want a professional you might check with a truck accessory or hitch installation shop. This might be a source for assistance - https://www.etrailer.com/installer/near-me/ca/trailer-hitch

 

[JustMeAndMy3500]

Are you buying your trailer from an RV dealer? They should be well versed on how to do that kind of work, if not they probably sub it out. Lean on the salesperson and go for a package deal.

 

[BAT3500]

Ditto, I bought the hitch from the rv dealer (not a camping world type store) and had them install on my 2020 Ram. It only took a couple of hours at most and was done while we completed paperwork and did the walkdown/inspection for the new RV. There were also several 4-wheel drive accessory type shops in the area that would have happily done the job.

 

[whitexc]

Did they install rails in the bed and then the hitch? The RV place didn’t install pucks! I would never let my RV joint touch my truck enough to install the puck system. It’s not a bad job but I’ve seen their work!


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