Power Wagon weight conundrum

[JM15]

Hello all first time posting on HDRams, have been hanging out at ExpoPortal. I ordered a 75A back in December, picked it up middle March, and just weighed it yesterday. I was shocked at how LIGHT it was. The Cat scales said the truck weighed 6360 pounds! I have tried making excuses on how this can be but I’m going to take it to another scale nearby to verify Even though I shouldn’t have to. The Ram website says max payload is 1096.3# but based on my math, I have closer to 2200. Am I crazy? GVWR is 8500 and some change. The truck was weighed with normal everyday truck items (35” spare, tire repair, safety and first aid items), my boys car seat and 45# of travel luggage from the 10 day work trip I was returning home from. I weigh 170# and the truck was 1/3 fuel. the truck also has the ramboxes and every option minus radar cruise control and sunroof. The missing fuel almost negates my weight and the weight of the luggage. Where is the missing 1000# of truck weight? Pictures attached.

The weights on my previous truck was 7800#. This was a 2018 Ram 3500 tradesman with Cummins/aisin on 37s with WKO sliders, fridge, camping gear, full fuel and loaded to camp. So I thought it was weird Ram is saying my PW was only 400# less than that beast of a truck When the PW was empty. Thoughts?

 

[DevilDodge]

8565 minus 1096 equals 7469

7469 would be with a full tank of gas.

Your front axle weight seems way off.


Should be 4481 front and 2987 rear approximately.

Seems you may have been on the scale wrong?

My bare bones tradesman would be 7002 pounds...6300lbs...some 1500s weigh almost that.

Very interesting

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

That seems light.

I haven’t weighed my truck but my 10k - 3167 Payload puts my 2500 gas tradesman at 6800+ lb and it (was) fairly bare bones.

Winch and driver alone would put it over 7000lb, so I would think you’re over 7k dry.

 

[MtnRider]

Yeah, that weight ain't right. Find another scale and try again.


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[jadmt]

I wonder if your front tires were partially to far forward. I just weighed my 2020 full tank of gas 35" Toyos on aev wheels 35 spare on stock wheels 75A sliders and dethloff tranny skid and gfc camper that is supposed to weigh 300-350. No gear at all and nobody including me in truck.

 

[jadmt]

So to me your rear axle is about right but front light. Cat reweighs free one time I'd redo it there and tell them why

 

[JM15]

All,

Thanks for the advice. I thought that weight was crazy low. It was at a busy gas station right off I-95. Wheels were in the middle of the plates. I’ve weight trucks/trailers 10-12 times on these scales doing military moves in my past life and never had an issue. I didn’t know about the reweigh option I’ll try that tomorrow. I also thought it odd/wrong that the front weight was less than the rear. Maybe the semi in front of me messed up a sensor or the scale wasn’t tare’d correctly in between weighs? Either way I thought I got lucky and they gave me an ultra light PW. Damnit.

-Jordan

 

[JM15]

Update is as follows: went to a certified scale down the road and paid 10$ for another weight. They came back with 7960# and that is empty truck with full fuel. Now this one seemed high so I went to yet another scale and got 7660#. This is more along the lines of what JaDMT had for his weight. Still kinda shocking that I only have 900# to play with if I’m full of fuel. I was wanting to put on some WKO sliders and a diamondback Hd/SE cover but that would take my payload down another 200 pounds if I removed the stock “sliders”.

All this leads me to does Carli’s 2.5” pintop kit actually increase payload via a weight certificate or is that their marketing saying they give you heavier springs. Hate to make this another power wagon payload thread but I will be a capacity with myself + family if I’m full fuel and have my full camping load out with spring bar tent, arb fridge, tables and chairs etc. I really don’t want to lift the truck and was just planning on going back to Thuren for track bar and kings only, but if Carli legally raises the payload then I may go that route. I mean I won’t even be able to legally tow my boat to my parents place if I have my family with me. don’t know how the wife will enjoy the “honey I don’t have the payload to bring y’all along“ excuse.

 

[AnthonyD1978]

I have the Carli Pintop on order and I've never seen anyone mention an actual weight cert being provided for their ~600 pounds of extra payload for a PW.

I need to weigh my truck...