Level 3 vs Safety Group pricing?!?!

[cbrenthus]

I'm looking to order a Power Wagon in the next few days. The question I have is that the Level 3 group has 90% of the additions that the Safety Group has, but the Safety Group does not go down in cost when you select Level 3. Am I missing something here, or is Ram really that messed up? (By the way I did search this topic and didn't find anything)

See below for what I mean:
Level 3: $9,990

• 17 Speaker Harman Kardon® Premium Sound
• 2nd-Row In-Floor Storage Bins
• Automatic High-Beam Headlamp-Control
• Mirror-Mounted Auxiliary Reverse Lamps
• Bi-Function LED Projector Headlamps
• Black Exterior Mirrors
• Body-Color Door Handles
• Power Adjustable Convex Aux Mirrors
• Electronic Shift-On-The-Fly Transfer Case
• Exterior Mirrors with Supplemental Signals
• Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
• Exterior Mirrors with Heating Element
• Exterior Mirrors with Memory
• Door Trim Panel Foam Bottle Insert
• Front and Rear Floor Mats
• Front Door Accent Lighting
• Power Wagon Vertical Bar Grille
• Aluminum Litho w/Black Trim Instrument Panel Bezels
• "Power Wagon" Instrument Panel Badge
• Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats
• LED Dome Lamp with On / Off Switch
• LED Interior Lighting
• Luxury Door Trim Panel
• Mirror Running Lights
• Power Folding Black Trailer-Tow Mirrors w/ Memory
• Overhead LED Lamps
• Power Adjustable Pedals with Memory
• Power-Folding Mirrors
• Premium Overhead Console
• Rain-Sensitive Windshield Wipers
• Rear Door Accent Lighting
• Remote-Proximity Keyless-Entry
• Remote-Start System
• Remote Tailgate-Release
• Black Rotary Shifter with Silver Stripe
• Security Alarm
• Sun Visors with Illuminated Vanity Mirrors
• Trailer-Tow Mirrors
• Uconnect® 5 Nav with 12.0-Inch Touch Screen Display
• Universal Garage-Door Opener

Safety Group: $2,185

• Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop
• Adaptive Steering System
• Automatic High-Beam Headlamp-Control
• Black Exterior Mirrors
• Blind-Spot with Tag Trailer & Cross-Path Detection
• Digital Rearview Mirror
• Exterior Mirrors with Supplemental Signals
• Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
• Exterior Mirrors with Heating Element
• Full-Speed Forward-Collision Warning Plus
• Lane-Keep Assist
• Mirror Running Lights
• Power-Folding Mirrors
• Rain-Sensitive Windshield Wipers
• Trailer-Tow Mirrors

Common Items:

• Automatic High-Beam Headlamp-Control
• Mirror-Mounted Auxiliary Reverse Lamps
• Black Exterior Mirrors
• Exterior Mirrors with Supplemental Signals
• Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
• Exterior Mirrors with Heating Element
• Exterior Mirrors with Memory
• Mirror Running Lights
• Power Folding Black Trailer-Tow Mirrors w/ Memory
• Power-Folding Mirrors
• Rain-Sensitive Windshield Wipers
• Trailer-Tow Mirrors

What $2185 gets you:

• Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop
• Adaptive Steering System
• Blind-Spot with Tag Trailer & Cross-Path Detection
• Digital Rearview Mirror
• Lane-Keep Assist

 

[arx237]

Doing blind spot and digital mirror on your own afterwards will cost you roughly 2k and your time just fyi. Pretty sure you cant easily do the other three at all so $2185 is prolly worth it if you want those features.

 

[Sixtime43]

I think it's worth it personally. I don't have all of the safety group, but most of it. I don't have the blind spot stuff, which is fine. The Adaptive Cruise Control is a pretty nice feature, and I can see the Digital Rearview being pretty handy when towing a trailer.

 

[Basser53]

I know when I ordered my truck the actual poc with the von was about 1k less then the first poc with out the von.. I was told that was because of the common items in the different packages..the first poc w/o the von did not reflect that..

 

[cbrenthus]

Thank you all for the replies. I ordered today and went ahead with the safety group (due to the replies here), though now my wife tells me she doesn't love the Adaptive Cruise Control, which was the number 1 reason I got it. I still think it is worth it for the blind spot monitoring alone with a truck this size, and I'm happy with the deal I got, so what's $2K on $70K? This is my order:
Power Wagon
Granite Crystal 2-tone
Level 3 Equipment Group
Engine Block Heater
Ramboxes
Rambox Utility Group
Tonneau Cover
Bed Utility Group
Power Sunroof
Safety Group


My sales associate told me the sunroof is on constraint and might take a long time, so I am seriously contemplating that.

 

[Basser53]

Order what u want ... it's to hard to say what will and what won't hold it up.. its a crap shoot..

 

[cbrenthus]

Order what u want ... it's to hard to say what will and what won't hold it up.. its a crap shoot..

Good point, but I'm really doing some soul searching about whether I want a sunroof or not. Honestly, I've never really used them much on cars I had them on in the past, and my wife is insistent on them but doesn't use them. However, I do like being able to open the shade for natural light occasionally. But, if I really don't think I'll use it, I might cancel. As of now, I'm going to give it a few days and see what my sales guy says.

 

[Basser53]

Good point, but I'm really doing some soul searching about whether I want a sunroof or not. Honestly, I've never really used them much on cars I had them on in the past, and my wife is insistent on them but doesn't use them. However, I do like being able to open the shade for natural light occasionally. But, if I really don't think I'll use it, I might cancel. As of now, I'm going to give it a few days and see what my sales guy says.

I'm the same way.. I went with it as its not much more and I do use it sometimes..I'm just saying there's people who have ordered loaded trucks that have recieved them quick and people who cut options and had it take a while.... seems to be a roll of the dice...

 

[cbrenthus]

Well, I asked about the 360 camera in this thread: https://hdrams.com/forum/index.php?...-question-on-the-12-screen.10422/#post-189788

Bottom line - if you don't care about adaptive cruise control or adaptive steering, which I don't, you are much better going with the L3 and towing tech group as you get 360 cameras and blind spot monitoring.