3500 gas vs 2500 gas

[erik53]

My default plan is to order a 2500 gas 4x4 Big Horn CC short box for towing travel trailers or small 5W's. It just become possible to do 2022 builds on ramtrucks.com, and I played around with 3500 builds as well as 2500. I was surprised to find just a small price increase going from 2500 to 3500 with similar configurations. For the 3500 I didn't find an option for limited slip diff, so I assume it is standard for 3500. I know that the suspension in the 3500 would be less comfortable in the 3500 when driving unloaded, but maybe the ability to tow bigger 5W's would be worth it? THe 3500 must be heavier and get poorer gas mileage, but by how much?

 

[erik53]

Of course I want the 4.10 axle. I got worried when one dealer yesterday told me that they could not configure a 2500 with 4.10. bit they could with a 3500. Judging by the website, that was false alarm. Or, is it possible that a configuration that works on the website turns out to be impossible at the moment one actually submits the order, or during the wait for manufacturing?

 

[raven_dt]

You will pay higher annual taxes on a 1 ton vs a 3/4 ton.

 

[raven_dt]

Of course I want the 4.10 axle. I got worried when one dealer yesterday told me that they could not configure a 2500 with 4.10. bit they could with a 3500. Judging by the website, that was false alarm. Or, is it possible that a configuration that works on the website turns out to be impossible at the moment one actually submits the order, or during the wait for manufacturing?

You can order the 4.10 on the 2500, maybe you should find a more knowledgeable dealer.

 

[erik53]

You will pay higher annual taxes on a 1 ton vs a 3/4 ton.

How does that work, if the purchase price is about the same?

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

You will pay higher annual taxes on a 1 ton vs a 3/4 ton.

that depends on where you live….. this is the first i have even heard of “annual taxes” on a vehicle lol

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

Pick the truck that has the payload rating you need.

 

[JohnandDonna]

You can most definitely order the 4.10 on a 2500. However you do need to get the limited slip differential as well. But that is only if you are getting the 6.4 Hemi. You can not get a 4.10 on the diesel in the 2500. Only on the diesel 3500 dually.

 

[erik53]

As I said, the website most definitely allows a 2500 build with 4.10, and I do include the limited slip differential option. When I ran a 3500 build, just to see how much more it would cost, there was no limited slip option to be had, and the total price at the end came out just a little bit more (maybe $1k) more than the 2500. I guess they could not sell 3500's without the functionality of limited slip, so all 3500's probably have this as standard. The small price difference probably just pays for some more steel in stronger components. But how much steel? Has anyone compared the sticker dry weight on a 2500 vs a 3500 when they are configured the same? I am thinking that if the 3500 is just 100 lbs heavier, and $1000 more expensive, then any 2500 buyer would be wise to consider a 3500 without focusing on price, and instead focus on payload vs ride quality. Am I missing something here?

 

[raven_dt]

that depends on where you live….. this is the first i have even heard of “annual taxes” on a vehicle lol

ad valorem tax...you buy tag for your vehicles right? You buy your tag once a year (annual)...annual tax. Work with me.

 

[erik53]

If the 3500 purchase price is the same as the 2500 purchase price, I would expect the value of the vehicles to be considered the same for tax purposes. Then the tags should cost the same, no?

 

[RAM_Dad]

As I said, the website most definitely allows a 2500 build with 4.10, and I do include the limited slip differential option. When I ran a 3500 build, just to see how much more it would cost, there was no limited slip option to be had, and the total price at the end came out just a little bit more (maybe $1k) more than the 2500. I guess they could not sell 3500's without the functionality of limited slip, so all 3500's probably have this as standard. The small price difference probably just pays for some more steel in stronger components. But how much steel? Has anyone compared the sticker dry weight on a 2500 vs a 3500 when they are configured the same? I am thinking that if the 3500 is just 100 lbs heavier, and $1000 more expensive, then any 2500 buyer would be wise to consider a 3500 without focusing on price, and instead focus on payload vs ride quality. Am I missing something here?

Only difference is rear springs and the payload sticker I believe. Limited slip is standard on 3500

I have a 3500 CCLB Hemi on order. I wanted the payload.

 

[Brewbud]

If the 3500 purchase price is the same as the 2500 purchase price, I would expect the value of the vehicles to be considered the same for tax purposes. Then the tags should cost the same, no?

Some states charge a weight fee in addition to registration.

 

[erik53]

Some states charge a weight fee in addition to registration.

Interesting. That brings me back to my question: What is the difference in weight?

 

[Brewbud]

Interesting. That brings me back to my question: What is the difference in weight?

It is because of the increased payload and not the actual weight of the truck. At least in CA.

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

ad valorem tax...you buy tag for your vehicles right? You buy your tag once a year (annual)...annual tax. Work with me.

Ad valorem. Ew. They did away with that here but we used to have it so I know what you mean. Now it’s just $25 per plate for a new sticker each year. I have two with specialty tags so those are additional $25 per. Everything I own is smog exempt due to GVWR or age

 

[erik53]

It is because of the increased payload and not the actual weight of the truck. At least in CA.

I looked it up for AZ: Here it depends on vehicle value only, computed by a specific formula.

 

[erik53]

Interesting. That brings me back to my question: What is the difference in weight?

Difference in weight will also affect gas mileage and acceleration, so that is another reason for wanting to know how much heavier a 3500 is.

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

ad valorem tax...you buy tag for your vehicles right? You buy your tag once a year (annual)...annual tax. Work with me.

Never heard of AD Valorem tax, here you buy a plate sticker every year but both the 2500/3500 are the same price until you get in to commercial licensing…. The only time you pay a tax here is when you buy the vehicle and go to register it new or used you pay 13% of the purchase price

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

Difference in weight will also affect gas mileage and acceleration, so that is another reason for wanting to know how much heavier a 3500 is.

Google says 100lb difference in curb weight