So even if a tradesman was ordered with just the 8.4 (not nav) that they may just put the 8.4 (with nav) standard now?I’m pretty sure that the 8.4 with the new the connect 5 come with nav. I have a tradesman ordered with the 8.4 and my sheet shows it has nav and several other things the 4c 8.4 didn’t come with previously. So I think whether you wanted nav or not you still get it. Probably won’t have the gloss black bezel like the nav radio usually has though.