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2022 Ram HD Builds and orders - Post and discuss your TRUCK order here! ** NEW USERS READ POST #1 **

Okay, I called my dealer and made the following changes to my 2022 build:
1) Change to dual rear wheels
2) 4.10 gears
3) Drop the 360° Trailer Camera system since I don't see it getting love here, and it sounds like you would have cables running from truck to cameras that are adhered in some way to the fifth wheel. Kind of a cheesy system.
4) Try to find a way to get NO CHROME. I want Hydro Blue in a Laramie B, but I do not want a chrome grill or mirrors. Sport Appearance should fix the grill and bumpers, but he is not sure how to get rid of the fugly chrome mirror tops.

I'm also starting to wonder if I should price a Longhorn and see if I have gotten to the point that a Longhorn is cheaper?

This sheet is the build prior to the above changes. I will be paying straight invoice minus $500 voucher from my employer program. I do have a Costco Executive (Employee) Account, but I never challenged the car buying program there..... Any of you know much about it and if would be better than what I already have going? I am also worried about the stories from the 2021 orders where the manufacturer takes it upon themselves to drop features and do the build in a partial condition compared to what the customer agreed to. Will they screw with us 2022 order folks?
 

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Okay, I called my dealer and made the following changes to my 2022 build:
1) Change to dual rear wheels
2) 4.10 gears
3) Drop the 360° Trailer Camera system since I don't see it getting love here, and it sounds like you would have cables running from truck to cameras that are adhered in some way to the fifth wheel. Kind of a cheesy system.
4) Try to find a way to get NO CHROME. I want Hydro Blue in a Laramie B, but I do not want a chrome grill or mirrors. Sport Appearance should fix the grill and bumpers, but he is not sure how to get rid of the fugly chrome mirror tops.

I'm also starting to wonder if I should price a Longhorn and see if I have gotten to the point that a Longhorn is cheaper?

This sheet is the build prior to the above changes. I will be paying straight invoice minus $500 voucher from my employer program. I do have a Costco Executive (Employee) Account, but I never challenged the car buying program there..... Any of you know much about it and if would be better than what I already have going? I am also worried about the stories from the 2021 orders where the manufacturer takes it upon themselves to drop features and do the build in a partial condition compared to what the customer agreed to. Will they screw with us 2022 order folks?
I initially priced a Laramie. When I started looking at the numbers, most of what I was optioning in a Laramie is included in a Limited (or Longhorn). My personal preference was Limited. I *did* end up spending a bit more because I added a couple of other options.

On balance though, Limited has directional headlights, better (real) leather, and all the creature comforts included. I assume this is all at the expense of a bit of payload, but on a 3500 for my plans it didn't matter much to me. So I'd say your thinking is right and it's worthwhile to at least look at. I don't think you can get Hydro Blue on a Limited though, at all. Not sure on a Longhorn. Hydro Blue was my first choice as well, but I ended up doing Patriot Blue Night Edition. I hate the chrome mirror caps too; just a good way for the sun to blind you at the right times of day IMO.
 
4) Try to find a way to get NO CHROME. I want Hydro Blue in a Laramie B, but I do not want a chrome grill or mirrors. Sport Appearance should fix the grill and bumpers, but he is not sure how to get rid of the fugly chrome mirror tops.

I’m going with olive green which means no available night edition. Also wasn’t available with maximum steel (what I currently have). You can search the forum for some how-tos on “deleting chrome.” I myself have plasti-dipped the wheels, emblems, and mirrors, but you can go big and just buy all the parts from a night edition VIN. Sport Package gets you close but leaves mirrors and grill inserts chrome (on a Laramie). CJC Offroad did a whole video on this too.

 
I’m going with olive green which means no available night edition. Also wasn’t available with maximum steel (what I currently have). You can search the forum for some how-tos on “deleting chrome.” I myself have plasti-dipped the wheels, emblems, and mirrors, but you can go big and just buy all the parts from a night edition VIN. Sport Package gets you close but leaves mirrors and grill inserts chrome (on a Laramie). CJC Offroad did a whole video on this too.

I too was hoping for an olive green night edition. Would look similar to the Power Wagon in olive green.
 
After several discussions with my salesman, this is my understanding about the trailer cameras, at least for the power wagon:

AVF: provides digital rearview mirror and one camera for rear mounting. Will display on digital rearview mirror while in tow mode
XN1: provides four cameras for surround trailer camera. Only displays temporarily on center counsel screen
XFQ: provides wiring for one camera for mounting in or on trailer (No camera included). Only displays temporarily on center counsel screen.

All three are stand alone options. So you can get one or all of them. All must be ordered when the truck is built. I assume this will mean there would be three separate camera connectors in the rear bumper.

On the power wagon, AVF is $945. This is an interesting option because the only other way to get the digital rearview mirror on the power wagon is by adding the $1990 Safety Group. I have no interest in lane keep assist or active cruise control, but would like the digital rearview mirror.
 
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How much is AVF? RAM_Dad posted earlier that it should include the digital rear view mirror and tow-mode camera and CAN’T be ordered with the safety group. Another option for those that what the digital rear view. Unless it isn’t available on the PW?
 
12" Display vs. 8.4" Display
I haven't seen any discussion about the two different screen sizes in this thread. The builds I've seen on here all seem to have the 12" display, an option that costs up to $2,000 more depending on trim level. I'm curious how many people who order the 12" screen have actually seen and used both the 8.4" display and the 12" display, rather than just assuming the 12" display is better and worth the extra money. The reason I mention this is because my next-door neighbors have two Ram 2500s, a his and a hers, a 2020 and a 2019. He has the 12" display and she has the 8.4" display. When they learned I was looking at buying one, the first thing both of them said was to get the 8.4" display. They both hate the 12" display. He thought he would like it, but says it's too confusing and difficult to use and too obnoxious. Some reviews I've read say the same. After seeing both, I agree. I'm not tech-adverse either. I love tech, as I had a lifelong career as a professional computer programmer. The 8.4" screen is still plenty techie. It would kind of suck to pay $2,000 extra for something you end up not liking as much. Just thought I'd mention this to those who might otherwise blindly spend $2,000 for an option they may not like as much as the 8.4" display. If you have seen both and prefer the 12" screen, fine. Otherwise you might want to experience both before spending that money.
 
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How much is AVF? RAM_Dad posted earlier that it should include the digital rear view mirror and tow-mode camera and CAN’T be ordered with the safety group. Another option for those that what the digital rear view. Unless it isn’t available on the PW?
The digital review mirror comes with the safety group:


Safety Group B (AAV)
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Details:
  • Auto High Beam Headlamp Control (LMS)
  • Rain Sensitive Windshield Wipers (JHC)
  • Adaptive Cruise Control w/Stop (NH3)
  • Digital Rearview Mirror (GRG)
  • Lane Keep Assist (LAS)
  • Full Speed Fwd Collision Warn Plus (LSU)
  • Adaptive Steering System (SJE)
 
After several discussions with my salesman, this is my understanding about the trailer cameras, at least for the power wagon:

AVF: provides one camera for rear mounting. Will display on digital rearview mirror while in tow mode
XN1: provides four cameras for surround trailer camera. Only displays temporarily on center counsel screen
XFQ: provides one camera for mounting in or on trailer. Only displays temporarily on center counsel screen

All three are stand alone options. So you can get one or all of them. All must be ordered when the truck is built. I assume this will mean there would be three separate camera connectors in the rear bumper.

On the power wagon, AVF is $945. This is an interesting option because the only other way to get the digital rearview mirror on the power wagon is by adding the $1990 Safety Group. I have no interest in lane keep assist or active cruise control, but would like the digital rearview mirror.
Yes, they must be ordered with the truck all 3 or any of the the 3 separately. Then the truck will be wired at the factory (truck side) however it is ordered. ALL of them will plug into the 12-way trailer plug (in place of the old 7-way). Once plugged in the truck's computer knows where to send the signal digital review mirror/center screen by what source from the trailer side. If it applies, you will get a wiring harness and or camera (s) (that will be in the truck from the factory, usually in the glove box if it fits) that is the wiring harness that will be used to power, send the signal from the camera's (trailer side) to the truck's screen/mirror via...the 12 way trailer connector on the trucks bumper (this is the only one connector that is used for any or all of these options)....hope this makes sense???
 
12" Display vs. 8.4" Display
I haven't seen any discussion about the two different screen sizes in this thread. The builds I've seen on here all seem to have the 12" display, an option that costs up to $2,000 more depending on trim level. I'm curious how many people who order the 12" screen have actually seen and used both the 8.4" display and the 12" display, rather than just assuming the 12" display is better and worth the extra money. The reason I mention this is because my next-door neighbors have two Ram 2500s, a his and a hers, a 2020 and a 2019. He has the 12" display and she has the 8.4" display. When they learned I was looking at buying one, the first thing both of them said was to get the 8.4" display. They both hate the 12" display. He thought he would like it, but says it's too confusing and difficult to use and too obnoxious. Some reviews I've read say the same. After seeing both, I agree. I'm not tech-adverse either. I love tech, as I had a lifelong career as a professional computer programmer. The 8.4" screen is still plenty techie. It would kind of suck to pay $2,000 extra for something you end up not liking as much. Just thought I'd mention this to those who might otherwise blindly spend $2,000 for an option they may not like as much as the 8.4" display. If you have seen both and prefer the 12" screen, fine. Otherwise you might want to experience both before spending that money.
I have the 8.4” now and you’re correct. Awesome display and is less glitchy than my buddy’s 12”. That being said, I ordered my 2500 with the 12” haha. It definitely looks awesome up front.
 
I have the 8.4” now and you’re correct. Awesome display and is less glitchy than my buddy’s 12”. That being said, I ordered my 2500 with the 12” haha. It definitely looks awesome up front.
In reality it’s only an $1100/$1200 option (when comparing the $800 8.4” to the $2000 12.0”), but all the other points are accurate/valid. Before ordering a truck, run by your local dealer and see if they have any in stock that you can try out.
 
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In reality it’s only an $1100/$1200 option, but all the other points are accurate/valid. Before ordering a truck, run by your local dealer and see if they have any in stock that you can try out.
On some models it's a $1,295 option. On other models it's a $1,995 option. That's why in my original post I said: "...an option that costs up to $2,000 more depending on trim level..."
 
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Hehe just updated my post to include the price difference of the 8.4 to the 12.0.
Actually, sometimes going from the 8.4" without nav to the 12" will cost you $1,995. See this screen shot of a Laramie on the build tool.
 

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Odered Saturday, got my VIN today. Now for the hard part.
 
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