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Lifter Failure? Report it here!

Seadoorxpguy said:
Don’t
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Units said:
Too bad there is no way for us to hear their “examples”. Curious to hear what they have recorded vs what others are hearing, me included.
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I think alot of them are misdiagnosed and are actually trucks that need their ac compressor realigned
 
mbarber84 said:
I think alot of them are misdiagnosed and are actually trucks that need their ac compressor realigned
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I tried to get my dealer to do the AC compressor TSB the other day and they wouldn't because it wasn't make the sound that day. And, I agree it wasn't that day but I said do it anyway and he refused.
 
I have seen the TSB and the procedure to perform it on here somewhere but don’t remember exactly where. It’s just simply loosening it then preloading it and torquing it back down.
 
OLEJOE said:
I have seen the TSB and the procedure to perform it on here somewhere but don’t remember exactly where. It’s just simply loosening it then preloading it and torquing it back down.
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Yep, and they wouldn't do it...now I didn't try to say, I'll pay...it was presumably he wouldn't do it and try to charge Stelantis for it. Just drove home last night from work and no noise...just started and moved the truck...no noise. So who the hell knows :rolleyes:
 
BlueOx2500 said:
I tried to get my dealer to do the AC compressor TSB the other day and they wouldn't because it wasn't make the sound that day. And, I agree it wasn't that day but I said do it anyway and he refused.
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My dealer did the TBS on mine and on work order mechanic wrote no fix at this time for this noise aka my typewriter sounds that to me sounded like it was in the valvetrain that did not show up until I switched to synthetic 10w30 oil
 
56ram2500 said:
My dealer did the TBS on mine and on work order mechanic wrote no fix at this time for this noise aka my typewriter sounds that to me sounded like it was in the valvetrain that did not show up until I switched to synthetic 10w30 oil
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Watch, the fix will be to go to 15w-40 :p
 
mbarber84 said:
I think alot of them are misdiagnosed and are actually trucks that need their ac compressor realigned
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I’ve contemplated that. I’ve been all over the interweb looking at posts with folks talking about lifter failures. I’ve seen lots of them have the whole valve train replaced only to have the noise come right back. I’m not convinced the noise is lifter related most of the time. I’ve had a motor with a failed lifter and it wasn’t gradual, it just failed and was pretty obvious. The noise I have and have had for longer than I can remember, currently sitting at 40k, is not the same noise.
 
mbarber84 said:
I think alot of them are misdiagnosed and are actually trucks that need their ac compressor realigned
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19-20 trucks had that issue. I’m pretty sure the regional reps ram & cummins sent out think mine wasn’t an ac compressor noise. Or they are just taking an odd path to check it.
 

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Seadoorxpguy said:
19-20 trucks had that issue. I’m pretty sure the regional reps ram & cummins sent out think mine wasn’t an ac compressor noise. Or they are just taking an odd path to check it.
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Looks to me like they have removed the a/c compressor , maybe they’re bench testing it.;)
 
Seadoorxpguy said:
19-20 trucks had that issue. I’m pretty sure the regional reps ram & cummins sent out think mine wasn’t an ac compressor noise. Or they are just taking an odd path to check it.
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I'd ask them if they'd just put the tappet conversion kit in if you supply it... Mine might be a niche case but after 2 new sets of lifters and 2 cams (3 if counting factory) and a short block later.... And being almost timed out of power train warranty, I said scr3w this and went back to tappets.
I plan to keep mine for a very long time which I realize some don't and just wait to trade up to new model...
Also some never have an issue, so heck, to each their own and not a simple decision.
 
Does anyone know if the 2019+ 3500 Cab and Chassis (or any of the derated C&C engines) have the hydraulic lifters? Thanks!
 
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Sledgehammer said:
Does anyone know if the 2019+ 3500 Cab and Chassis (or any of the derated C&C engines) have the hydraulic lifters? Thanks!
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Ostracize said:
All do.
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Correct.

19-24 use the CGI block with hydraulic lifters and a hollow cam.
25+ went back to the grey iron block but still uses the same lifters - same exact PN, I checked. All the other internal part numbers (expected) are different - cam, pistons, crank, etc.

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Brutal_HO said:
Correct.

19-24 use the CGI block with hydraulic lifters and a hollow cam.
25+ went back to the grey iron block but still uses the same lifters - same exact PN, I checked. All the other internal part numbers (expected) are different - cam, pistons, crank, etc.

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Does the AC in the part number mean “Absolutely Chinese”?
 
Trash Panda said:
I’m more surprised the kept the same lifters.
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I mean yeah... But also not really surprised considering they still want the fix for a non-existent NVH problem and I think they are on 4 or possibly up to 6 different iterations of the lifters, all under the same part number, smh. All of this said with heavy sarcasm.
 
Ostracize said:
I mean yeah... But also not really surprised considering they still want the fix for a non-existent NVH problem and I think they are on 4 or possibly up to 6 different iterations of the lifters, all under the same part number, smh. All of this said with heavy sarcasm.
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A large departure from the existing engine design seems like a great time to fix a clear **** up.

Then again, since when does any automaker pass up a chance to continue screwing the pooch.
 
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