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Regeneration Frequency Issue: MAF Poll

Please indicate which MAF your truck has and wether or not it has a Regeneration Frequency problem.

  • I have AARFN and a regeneration frequency issue.

    Votes: 26 53.1%
  • I have AARFN and NO regeneration frequency issue.

    Votes: 14 28.6%
  • I have ABMBV and a regeneration frequency issue.

    Votes: 7 14.3%
  • I have ABMBV and NO regeneration frequency issue.

    Votes: 2 4.1%

  • Total voters
    49
Depends on your state. I'm in TX and have a 2022. 5yr/50k federal diesel emissions warranty.


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For CARB states it's 5yr/50k or 7yr/70k depending on the part. DOC/DPF is listed under both sections it is covered for 7/70k

2022 CARB diesel emissions warranty - https://vehicleinfo.mopar.com/asset.../2500/P132159_22_DJD2_D_CEW_EN_US_DIGITAL.pdf


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How would I find out for my state, North Carolina?
 
I feel like if you corner AI, it will tell you whatever you want but it’s now saying 5 / 50k after first saying 8 / 80k (for a 2500).

You’re right—the federal emissions warranty for heavy-duty diesel vehicles (over 8,500 lbs GVWR), like the Ram 2500, covers emissions-related components for 5 years / 50,000 miles, not 8 years / 80,000 miles. The 8/80 rule applies to light-duty vehicles (under 8,500 lbs GVWR), which does not include the Ram 2500.


For your Ram 2500 diesel, the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) is covered under the federal emissions warranty for 5 years or 50,000 miles, unless state-specific emissions warranties (like California’s) extend coverage.





If you need to confirm coverage for a specific part, your warranty supplement or a dealership would be the best source.
 
While there are two types of regen, active and passive, that’s not the difference of the two.

Active regen is anytime the truck is actively heating the DPF to clean it. This occurs either every 24 hours of engine run time or when the soot level gets to ~45% on the dash gauge, whichever happens first. Regardless of what triggers the active regen the DPF page tells you a regen is in progress. The 24 hour clock resets at the completion of every active regen.

Passive regen is anytime the DPF is hot enough from the driving conditions to clean itself, this can be continuous or not at all. There are no indications of this (aside from maybe a reduced DPF gauge) and no additional fuel is injected, it’s 100% passive.

When the dash tells you to continue driving you have had failed regen attempts and/or an issue that’s preventing active regen from properly cleaning the DPF. It’s not normal to see the continue driving message.

Not watching the gauge is not why people get the P2459.
Appreciate the explanation! I definitely didn't know that. I've only had the "continue driving" message twice in 38k miles. Unfortunately my DPF gauge hits the 45% mark every 75 - 150 miles and regens. It's annoying AF. I'm not getting anywhere close to that 24 drive clock. Hell I regened at 37,570 and then again on the way to the dealer for service today at 37,706 and my DPF gauge is close again at 37,825 and I guarantee it regens again tomorrow morning when I head to work. I'm hoping that since I had them swap out the German made MAF sensor today for the China made MAF sensor I'll start getting 24 hours of drive time between regens. If it doesn't change after tomorrows regen and I get confirmation the DPF is covered under warranty until 50k miles I'm absolutely going to ignore the regen gauge, stop letting the cycle complete and let it fail.
 
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Appreciate the explanation! I definitely didn't know that. I've only had the "continue driving" message twice in 38k miles. Unfortunately my DPF gauge hits the 45% mark every 75 - 150 miles and regens. It's annoying AF. I'm not getting anywhere close to that 24 drive clock. Hell I regened at 37,570 and then again on the way to the dealer for service today at 37,706 and my DPF gauge is close again at 37,825 and I guarantee it regens again tomorrow morning when I head to work. I'm hoping that since I had them swap out the German made MAF sensor today for the China made MAF sensor. If I get confirmation the DPF is covered under warranty until 50k miles I'm absolutely going to ignore the regen gauge and let it fail completely.

What is your drive cycle like? Do you tow at all?

Have you tried archoil 6400d?
 
What is your drive cycle like? Do you tow at all?

Have you tried archoil 6400d?
I'm a contractor and a typical drive time/commute is 15-45 minutes. I very rarely take my truck on short drives under 10 minutes. I've always got at least 1,000-1,500lbs in the bed but probably only tow my 10,000lb trailer 4-5 days a month. I change the oil/filter and both fuel filters every 7500 miles (I know the maintenance schedule says every 15k but I figure it's cheap insurance to do it more often especially with the hydraulic roller lifters) . I also use Archoil Diesel Treatment (AR6500) with every fill up and Archoil Diesel Fuel System Cleaner (AR6400-D) every 5,000 miles and have since my truck was brand new. I'm all ears if you or anyone else has any other suggestions.
 
Additionally, it's not as if Stellantis doesn't know this is a problem. Their TSB specifically states there is an issue with DPF's in all of their builds between 8/1/22 and 5/1/23 (mine has a 10/22 build date).Image_250203_094020.jpeg
 
Appreciate the explanation! I definitely didn't know that. I've only had the "continue driving" message twice in 38k miles. Unfortunately my DPF gauge hits the 45% mark every 75 - 150 miles and regens. It's annoying AF. I'm not getting anywhere close to that 24 drive clock. Hell I regened at 37,570 and then again on the way to the dealer for service today at 37,706 and my DPF gauge is close again at 37,825 and I guarantee it regens again tomorrow morning when I head to work. I'm hoping that since I had them swap out the German made MAF sensor today for the China made MAF sensor I'll start getting 24 hours of drive time between regens. If it doesn't change after tomorrows regen and I get confirmation the DPF is covered under warranty until 50k miles I'm absolutely going to ignore the regen gauge, stop letting the cycle complete and let it fail.

The problem with frequent regens is not only the potential DPF failure, but excess fuel in oil (fuel dilution) that can lead to engine issues.

(there's another thread here about excessive regen that's more appropriate to discuss)

 
To add to this discussion,

Keep in mind that any truck that has had the Y43 recall completed (installation of the Particulate Matter Sensor) gets an extension on the DPF warranty.

This adds an additional year to the warranty covering the DPF, starting from the date of completion of the Y43 recall. It is also an unlimited mileage warranty extension.

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To add to this discussion,

Keep in mind that any truck that has had the Y43 recall completed (installation of the Particulate Matter Sensor) gets an extension on the DPF warranty.

This adds an additional year to the warranty covering the DPF, starting from the date of completion of the Y43 recall. It is also an unlimited mileage warranty extension.

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I had that Y43 recall completed on 9/25/23 so if my DPF is covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty of 5yr/50k miles I'm covered even without the extension. If it's the 3yr/36k mile warranty I should still be covered because I'm under 3 years and now it's unlimited miles, right?
 
I had that Y43 recall completed on 9/25/23 so if my DPF is covered under the Federal Emissions Warranty of 5yr/50k miles I'm covered even without the extension. If it's the 3yr/36k mile warranty I should still be covered because I'm under 3 years and now it's unlimited miles, right?
The 3 year bumper to bumper is started from your in-service date (the date you took ownership). As long as you’re within either the 5/50 or the 3/36 you should be covered. Your one year warranty extension on the DPF has already surpassed.
 
The 3 year bumper to bumper is started from your in-service date (the date you took ownership). As long as you’re within either the 5/50 or the 3/36 you should be covered. Your one year warranty extension on the DPF has already surpassed.
I'm well within the 5/50 but have driven it 38k in the first 2 years so past the 3/36. My understanding is that the 5/50 covers the DPF. Isn't that right?
 
I'm well within the 5/50 but have driven it 38k in the first 2 years so past the 3/36. My understanding is that the 5/50 covers the DPF. Isn't that right?

Have you looked in your warranty supplement?
 
Have you looked in your warranty supplement?
Just found it online and printed it. Says DPF is covered under the 5/50. So I guess I'll just let it clog and fail.
 
It is unfortunate that we can't get a serviceable DPF like some of the large trucks. Have not looked under my truck at it; Is the exhaust emission system one piece? Pretty sure that I have the Chinese sensor. Got 610 miles between the last two regens. However about a third of the miles was towing a heavy fifth wheel. Since the last regen the truck has been used around town, a mix of highway and city. It has been 510 miles since the last regen and the DPF gauge is looking ready for another regen. No doubt that towing that fifth wheel over 4 thousand miles each year does the DPF some good.
 
It is unfortunate that we can't get a serviceable DPF like some of the large trucks. Have not looked under my truck at it; Is the exhaust emission system one piece? Pretty sure that I have the Chinese sensor. Got 610 miles between the last two regens. However about a third of the miles was towing a heavy fifth wheel. Since the last regen the truck has been used around town, a mix of highway and city. It has been 510 miles since the last regen and the DPF gauge is looking ready for another regen. No doubt that towing that fifth wheel over 4 thousand miles each year does the DPF some good.
The DOC and DPF are independent canisters however they are all welded into one “assembly”. They can be cleaned, but that process isn’t as simple as the commercial trucks and equipment systems. In many cases, services are actually cutting the Ram assemblies apart, cleaning, and then re-welding. A serviceable DOC and DPF would be a good thing but “they” don’t seem too interested in supplying such a feature.
 
Depends on your state. I'm in TX and have a 2022. 5yr/50k federal diesel emissions warranty.


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For CARB states it's 5yr/50k or 7yr/70k depending on the part. DOC/DPF is listed under both sections it is covered for 7/70k

2022 CARB diesel emissions warranty - https://vehicleinfo.mopar.com/asset.../2500/P132159_22_DJD2_D_CEW_EN_US_DIGITAL.pdf


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Depends on your state. I'm in TX and have a 2022. 5yr/50k federal diesel emissions warranty.


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For CARB states it's 5yr/50k or 7yr/70k depending on the part. DOC/DPF is listed under both sections it is covered for 7/70k

2022 CARB diesel emissions warranty - https://vehicleinfo.mopar.com/asset.../2500/P132159_22_DJD2_D_CEW_EN_US_DIGITAL.pdf


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where did you get that info. I have a 2020 Ram 2500 4 x 4 and my zDOF won’t regenerate and I need to smog it. Of course it had to happen when my registration is due.
 
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where did you get that info. I have a 2020 Ram 2500 4 x 4 and my zDOF won’t regenerate and I need to smog it. Of course it had to happen when my registration is due.
Sorry about the typo DOF is full see dealer. Would like to know if it’s covered m. It does say
 
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