2023 New Mirrors Conversion (Merged threads)

[John312008]

Actually I find the yt video here in Hdr.

 

[Ramsomair]

What a hack job lol

 

[John312008]

I was thinking the same but If the guy in the gas station parking lot did it I can give it a try ,this is the final result.

 

[smithhomeimprov]

I was thinking the same but If the guy in the gas station parking lot did it I can give it a try ,this is the final result.

Looks good, I want to try, anyway you can give a step by step of electronics for lighted ones? I didn't quite follow how you wired it. You also cut your door like in the video?

 

[dieseldad2]

Put them on my 2019 Ram 3500 Big horn
A little modification and the fit great
Fold ,puddle light, blinker , heater and mirror adjustments work
Extend is manual. Gonna work on the front and rear lights. Might put them on a rocker switch

 

[mikereidjr]

Put them on my 2019 Ram 3500 Big horn
A little modification and the fit great
Fold ,puddle light, blinker , heater and mirror adjustments work
Extend is manual. Gonna work on the front and rear lights. Might put them on a rocker switch

Which part numbers did you use, and did you cut the mirrors or the door?

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Which part numbers did you use, and did you cut the mirrors or the door?

The door has to be cut its not bad from what i have seen

 

[KneeDeep]

I have a set of the Boost Auto Parts GM style mirrors that I took off of my 18 before I traded it in on my 24 if anyone is looking for a cheaper option.

 

[Satx_Cummins]

Wow the cutting involved doesn't look bad. Wasn't fan of them at first but they are growing on me. Now how to get everything operational would be great. I figure 360 camera would plug in to the existing fackra connector. Those who have done this with BSM, heated, power fold, etc. Did you guys used the same door modules on the truck?

 

[John312008]

I did because my bighorn didn't have power fold but is not needed unless you want to have power fold with the fob .

 

[g00fy]

Put them on my 2019 Ram 3500 Big horn
A little modification and the fit great
Fold ,puddle light, blinker , heater and mirror adjustments work
Extend is manual. Gonna work on the front and rear lights. Might put them on a rocker switch

Was the wiring mostly plug & play?

 

[jeepinmatt]

Any update on this? I just picked up a 2019 Laramie 2500 and I love everything about the truck except the stupid dang mirrors. I put the Chevy style ones on my 5500 and they are great, but the 2500 has surround view cameras on the mirrors and I’d love to keep that feature. Anybody done a 23+ mirror swap with the cameras? (I’m kinda afraid to find out how much they cost though, haha)

 

[whitexc]

Following. I’d take the mirrors off my daily in lieu of the moose ears. That’s a super duty


Sent from me

 

[jeepinmatt]

Any update on this? I just picked up a 2019 Laramie 2500 and I love everything about the truck except the stupid dang mirrors. I put the Chevy style ones on my 5500 and they are great, but the 2500 has surround view cameras on the mirrors and I’d love to keep that feature. Anybody done a 23+ mirror swap with the cameras? (I’m kinda afraid to find out how much they cost though, haha)

Looks like the mirrors I would need are:
Mirror Assembly
68509727AE
Positions: Left
Description: 2023-24 with SIGNAL LAMP. power fold, with memory, chrome (GT4) with blind spot, with surround view, without GNQ.

Mirror Assembly
68509726AE
Positions: Right
Description: 2023-24 with SIGNAL LAMP. power fold, with memory, chrome (GT4) with blind spot, with surround view, without GNQ.


I'm willing to buy and try if someone who knows the BCM stuff better than me can help guide a little as needed. @Jimmy07 @jsalbre @John312008 any of you guys think you might have some insight?

 

[whitexc]

How much are they?


Sent from me

 

[jeepinmatt]

How much are they?


Sent from me

$600ish on eBay, $900ish from the online parts places. Price each.

 

[jsalbre]

Looks like the mirrors I would need are:
Mirror Assembly
68509727AE
Positions: Left
Description: 2023-24 with SIGNAL LAMP. power fold, with memory, chrome (GT4) with blind spot, with surround view, without GNQ.

Mirror Assembly
68509726AE
Positions: Right
Description: 2023-24 with SIGNAL LAMP. power fold, with memory, chrome (GT4) with blind spot, with surround view, without GNQ.


I'm willing to buy and try if someone who knows the BCM stuff better than me can help guide a little as needed. @Jimmy07 @jsalbre @John312008 any of you guys think you might have some insight?

Not sure on BCM changes off the top of my head, but I think Jimmy may have posted them before.

That said, you’re going to have to do some cutting and drilling IIRC to get those mirrors attached to your truck doors.

 

[jeepinmatt]

Not sure on BCM changes off the top of my head, but I think Jimmy may have posted them before.

That said, you’re going to have to do some cutting and drilling IIRC to get those mirrors attached to your truck doors.

Yes, I’m aware of the cutting and drilling, and I don’t mind that (even though it’s definitely not ideal). I’m a mechanical engineer, machinist, and fabricator, so the cutting and mods don’t bother me at all. But I’m not much of an electrical/computer guy, so that’s the part that gives me pause. But I hate the stock mirrors so much it’s worth time/effort/cost as long as I can have someone in my corner for sorting out the electromechanical side of things.

 

[Jimmy07]

Yes, I’m aware of the cutting and drilling, and I don’t mind that (even though it’s definitely not ideal). I’m a mechanical engineer, machinist, and fabricator, so the cutting and mods don’t bother me at all. But I’m not much of an electrical/computer guy, so that’s the part that gives me pause. But I hate the stock mirrors so much it’s worth time/effort/cost as long as I can have someone in my corner for sorting out the electromechanical side of things.

I’ve got the fully loaded 2023 mirrors swapped in on my truck, and to get everything to work, it all depends on how far you want to take things to get them to work like factory.
There’s a few ways you can go about doing it.

If you want the mirrors to function like factory, with utility lights and all, it’s quite a bit of work. You need the mirrors, 2023 door modules, mirror switch plus the main master door switch trim bezel (the telescoping mirror switch does not fit in the same trim bezel as the convex mirror switch), the 2023 memory seat module, a 2023 BCM, and a bunch of custom wiring to add all the missing circuits for the telescope and utility lights features.
Also, if you do it that way, swapping in the 2023 bcm is going to cause you to lose the use of the horn switch on the steering wheel and the left steering wheel buttons that control the instrument cluster. The horn itself will still sound off in all other situations (lock doors, remote start, etc), just not when you press the horn switch on the steering wheel. You would have to add a wire on the BCM and run it to a momentary aux switch that you can press to sound the horn. To get the left steering wheel switches working again, I had someone set up a man-in-the-middle module for me that remaps those buttons.

A different way to go about it is to install only the mirrors and 2023 door modules (plug n play). That’ll keep your surround view cameras working, and your power convex mirrors and power folding feature. You’ll have to manually extend the mirrors, and the utility lights won’t work, and you won’t be able to utilize the factory telescoping mirror switch cluster. You can make a couple changes with alfaobd and the auto fold feature will work.

Then, if you want to make them power telescope and make the utility lights work, you would basically have to put those functions on some auxiliary switches, using custom wiring and relays, and timer relays (I believe this is the route someone else in this thread went).

 

[jeepinmatt]

I’ve got the fully loaded 2023 mirrors swapped in on my truck, and to get everything to work, it all depends on how far you want to take things to get them to work like factory.
There’s a few ways you can go about doing it.

If you want the mirrors to function like factory, with utility lights and all, it’s quite a bit of work. You need the mirrors, 2023 door modules, mirror switch plus the main master door switch trim bezel (the telescoping mirror switch does not fit in the same trim bezel as the convex mirror switch), the 2023 memory seat module, a 2023 BCM, and a bunch of custom wiring to add all the missing circuits for the telescope and utility lights features.
Also, if you do it that way, swapping in the 2023 bcm is going to cause you to lose the use of the horn switch on the steering wheel and the left steering wheel buttons that control the instrument cluster. The horn itself will still sound off in all other situations (lock doors, remote start, etc), just not when you press the horn switch on the steering wheel. You would have to add a wire on the BCM and run it to a momentary aux switch that you can press to sound the horn. To get the left steering wheel switches working again, I had someone set up a man-in-the-middle module for me that remaps those buttons.

A different way to go about it is to install only the mirrors and 2023 door modules (plug n play). That’ll keep your surround view cameras working, and your power convex mirrors and power folding feature. You’ll have to manually extend the mirrors, and the utility lights won’t work, and you won’t be able to utilize the factory telescoping mirror switch cluster. You can make a couple changes with alfaobd and the auto fold feature will work.

Then, if you want to make them power telescope and make the utility lights work, you would basically have to put those functions on some auxiliary switches, using custom wiring and relays, and timer relays (I believe this is the route someone else in this thread went).

Thanks a ton for the thorough reply!

I don't care about power telescope or the utility light, so really all I'm looking for is this:

A different way to go about it is to install only the mirrors and 2023 door modules (plug n play). That’ll keep your surround view cameras working, and your power convex mirrors and power folding feature. You’ll have to manually extend the mirrors, and the utility lights won’t work, and you won’t be able to utilize the factory telescoping mirror switch cluster. You can make a couple changes with alfaobd and the auto fold feature will work.

I don't understand what you mean by "you won’t be able to utilize the factory telescoping mirror switch cluster"? Can you elaborate?