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35000 HO SRW tow 42 foot two car gooseneck?

If you're talking about purely body roll with an identical spring pack, you have a valid point. I don't believe the dually uses the same spring pack as the SRW. The added payload doesn't come only from the tires.

However, even if they are the same spring pack, you don't think the extra sidewall resistance in 2 additional tires provide more lateral stability?

I don't own a dually, but I do understand rudimentary physics and mechanics.

Assuming properly inflated tires, which isn’t the case more often than you think, the suspension does provide most the control and stability, followed by the frame, and lastly the wheel stance. So wider isn’t really coming into play under normal driving as the truck/load pivots around the frame/suspension and not the tires. The additional sidewalls will help some, but only when sidewall flex is an issue. Personally the only time I ever noticed sidewall flex to the point of it effecting my handling was when I overloaded the stock tires on my ‘05 3500 SRW by 700lbs/ea…whoops, learned a bit about loading that day.

While probably not always the case, I have seen many DRW owners run their rears at 80 psi when loaded, which is overinflated. That will make for stiffer tires and you’ll feel it in the drivers seat, but that doesn’t make it more stable as much as makes it gives a false sense of stability from the tires. To reach RAWR on a DRW, with stock sized tires, only 65 psi is needed. DRW tires are also rated lower and have taller sidewalls than SRW tires, meaning lb for lb the DRW tire size will flex more… not twice as much but you don’t get twice the improvement over SRW tire sizes either.

Often DRW’s have either a heavier spring pack, bigger overloads, or both. The only exception I can think of is the auto-level Ram 3500’s since SRW and DRW are identical.

The GVWR of the CCLB 13+ 3500 6.7 SRW is higher than the GVWR of the 03-9 3500 DRW, and the same as a 10-12 3500 DRW. While a lot of that is paper/marketing stuff it still does go show you that there is a lot more at play than just the number of tires on the rear axle.

On my 05 3500 SRW I had 14 ply 19.5’s giving me a rear tire limit of 9K. I did that once and it handles the weight the same as the 07 DRW that normally hauled the camper. He had the OEM suspension which used the same overloads with a bigger main spring pack, and I had the OEM suspension plus airbags that didn’t engage my upper overloads. Not a lot of miles, but the camper owner was nervous and then surprised. He thought it was more in the tires than it really was.

Aside from the training tire/wheel setup my truck is identical to a DRW and if I were to compare the handling of them at a 7K RAW, with properly inflated tires, I don’t expect to feel much difference, if any, under normal driving circumstances.

Bottom line is a lot goes into play on stability and perceived stability. I wouldn’t hesitate to run a SRW truck, and do, at either the RAWR or the tire rating (slightly higher). They are already overbuilt for a SRW application, and really even the DRW application which has a paper limit of 14K on the GVWR when the truck is really capable of 15,750.

There are plenty of applications where a DRW is advantageous, and plenty where they are not. I’ve also seen plenty of people do stupid things because it’s a DRW, and the same is true for SRW. So tow safe, tow within your ratings, and enjoy…
 
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Way to heavy for an SRW . You are going to be pushing 4 K pin weight plus. Duallies are not my favorite but with that weight I can see no choice . E tires are not rated for that weight either . You have an accident and the Lawyers will be looking for any reason to blame you ... Sure you can tow it but is it safe and controllable ?
1. E load range tires are rated for 3,500-4,000+ lbs PER TIRE, that is combined 7,000-8,000 lbs or more on the SRW truck. Won't handle 4k pin weight you say?
2. People keep spreading this rumor about the accident lawyers and being overweight. It's just not happening, there isn't a single story supporting your claim. People do a lot of dumb things beside driving overloaded and that is what insurance for.
 
Pull it with what you want . Pulling it safely is another matter . Axle is 7200 you will be over period . You are right people do dumb things and usually out of ignorance of facts . Insurance does not bring back lives because you were too stupid or cheap to spend the bucks to be be safe . You are not the only one on the road ! You get in a major wreck and it will be investigated to determine the cause . If it is concluded that you were at fault because your equipment was not adequate those lawyers that you seem to think there is no data to support will be sitting right next to the person you hit ! That is a fact not a rumor .
 
Here's the weight from my 2013 2500 srw megacab, Genesis 40cr 160 gallons of water, fuel, sandrail and whatever else my wife throws in there. Yes i was over the capacity, truck weight was 8540 empty, and the rear was 3660 empty.

I have yet to weigh it with my 2022 3500 srw megacab ho but it should be similar. The cargo capacity of the new truck is 3803.
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Here's the weight from my 2013 2500 srw megacab, Genesis 40cr 160 gallons of water, fuel, sandrail and whatever else my wife throws in there. Yes i was over the capacity, truck weight was 8540 empty, and the rear was 3660 empty.

I have yet to weigh it with my 2022 3500 srw megacab ho but it should be similar. The cargo capacity of the new truck is 3803.
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Pull it with what you want . Pulling it safely is another matter . Axle is 7200 you will be over period . You are right people do dumb things and usually out of ignorance of facts . Insurance does not bring back lives because you were too stupid or cheap to spend the bucks to be be safe . You are not the only one on the road ! You get in a major wreck and it will be investigated to determine the cause . If it is concluded that you were at fault because your equipment was not adequate those lawyers that you seem to think there is no data to support will be sitting right next to the person you hit ! That is a fact not a rumor .
You have no idea if he will be over or not your theoretical 4k pin weight is based on the rule of thumb for campers where as a cargo or race and equipment trailers the weight can be easily moved around and you wont always get that 20% pin weight plus race trailers tend to have the axles forward more to relieve pin weight due to people having excessive tools in the front of the trailers….

By your theory and logic this 17,700lbs trailer load (6tonne of quarry A gravel) should have been 3500 lbs on the pin plus my hitch weight is 365lbs so 3865lbs but the truck has barely moved and its a 2500 so there is no way it was that much pin weight….

Before you go off on your legallity crap over this i was towed less than a 3 miles Yes i went down the highway at 60 with it and yes i was way over the 14k axle cap on the trailer i am not advertising people try it i am just simply stating your 20% pin weight rule is for campers mainly…


Also with the AAM11.5” and the AAM12” non dually axle the axle is actually rated at 11k from AAM so he is still fine and wont hurt anything if he has proper tires for the load. Any 1/2 decent lawyer could use that info to avoid litigation
 

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Lol that's with me, my wife and my 2 year old at the time on board.

Just trying to give the guy an idea what that weight looks like, within the specs of a 3500 HO
 
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