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35000 HO SRW tow 42 foot two car gooseneck?

H3LZSN1P3R said:
DRW does not add stability the springs are in charge of that and are the same placement as the SRW springs unless you are talking about how easy it is to roll the truck over….

DRW offers extra axle weight capacity due to the extra tires and bigger axle tubes
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The stability of my dually over single wheel is amazing! There is no comparison
 
Firebird said:
The stability of my dually over single wheel is amazing! There is no comparison
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I own a dually and have driven many 3500 SRW trucks there is no difference in feel unless they have different spring setups such as air assist…The stability you feel in the drivers seat is from the springs it has nothing to do with the extra tires. the tires on both a SRW and a DRW are not leaving the pavement you are only feeling the transfer of weight on the suspension and perhaps a touch less tire roll on the rear of a dually but that would be minimal if any difference if the tires are aired up properly…
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
The scale you used is broken clearly they leave the factory at around 8k lbs depending on options so you are likely 8500-8750 lbs with you in it and a full tank of fuel still plenty of room to run it without issue
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lmao. Note taken. It was the local dumspter.
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
I own a dually and have driven many 3500 SRW trucks there is no difference in feel unless they have different spring setups such as air assist…The stability you feel in the drivers seat is from the springs it has nothing to do with the extra tires. the tires on both a SRW and a DRW are not leaving the pavement you are only feeling the transfer of weight on the suspension and perhaps a touch less tire roll on the rear of a dually but that would be minimal if any difference if the tires are aired up properly…
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If you're talking about purely body roll with an identical spring pack, you have a valid point. I don't believe the dually uses the same spring pack as the SRW. The added payload doesn't come only from the tires.

However, even if they are the same spring pack, you don't think the extra sidewall resistance in 2 additional tires provide more lateral stability?

I don't own a dually, but I do understand rudimentary physics and mechanics.
 
Brutal_HO said:
However, even if they are the same spring pack, you don't think the extra sidewall resistance in 2 additional tires provide more lateral stability?
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Thats where inflation pressure come in to play in my experience. Im not sure on these new trucks but in the past the springs were the same it was just overloads that made the difference for duallys.
 
Brutal_HO said:
If you're talking about purely body roll with an identical spring pack, you have a valid point. I don't believe the dually uses the same spring pack as the SRW. The added payload doesn't come only from the tires.

However, even if they are the same spring pack, you don't think the extra sidewall resistance in 2 additional tires provide more lateral stability?

I don't own a dually, but I do understand rudimentary physics and mechanics.
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I agree totally, I have on dually trucks since the early 90s
 
Id re-weigh that truck at a certified scale. Load it up how you would for a haul. Fill the fuel tank. Etc.

At 19,000 - depending on how the trailer is loaded - you're looking at 15-20% for pin weight. 20% puts you at 3800lbs which is going to be cutting it close.

How comfortable are you at towing at max?
 
Firebird said:
My dually is my daily driver, and you get used to it very fast. Only downside, I can't go through automatic car washes
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I usedto have a subscription for my 2500 truck. Miss that formy 3500 dually.
 
Firebird said:
Me too, my dually is amazingly stable!
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Even at 12K, wife said she noticed thetrailer much less in the dually than in the 2500. Many friends who tow with 2500 or 3500 SRW have also commented the my truck pulling their trailer (15K toyhauler 5th wheel trailers) felt more stable. And I tend to drive faster than they do. Not a daredevil speed, just faster than my older friends.
 
Firebird said:
The stability of my dually over single wheel is amazing! There is no comparison
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This is 100% true. I love my 2500 but our 3500DRW ranch truck is much more stable when pulling oversized/overweight loaded trailers. There's a reason we only get DRW for our ranch trucks (the 36' cattle trailer and 42' gooseneck).


To OP; for as little as you plan on towing the larger/heavier trailer it doesn't make much sense to go to a DRW. I would say the bigger factor is you'll be going from a very heavy bumper pull to a gooseneck. The geometry is very different between the two. I tell people all the time "once you get a gooseneck, you'll never want another bumper pull."
 
Glad we cleared up that silly misconception that a dually doesn't add stability.

If you are only towing 4-5 times a year.. i'd run it. I'd make sure i'm running good rubber though. Too many guys running around on bald ass potato skins trying to squeek another 5k miles out of a set.
 
Bcrouse said:
Id re-weigh that truck at a certified scale. Load it up how you would for a haul. Fill the fuel tank. Etc.

At 19,000 - depending on how the trailer is loaded - you're looking at 15-20% for pin weight. 20% puts you at 3800lbs which is going to be cutting it close.

How comfortable are you at towing at max?
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I think I’d be ok at the max for the distances I would be towing it <250 miles. Don’t think I would want to do cross country.

Keep thinking I’m gonna need a full spare for the truck and keep it in the trailer.
 
McHenry2500 said:
This is 100% true. I love my 2500 but our 3500DRW ranch truck is much more stable when pulling oversized/overweight loaded trailers. There's a reason we only get DRW for our ranch trucks (the 36' cattle trailer and 42' gooseneck).


To OP; for as little as you plan on towing the larger/heavier trailer it doesn't make much sense to go to a DRW. I would say the bigger factor is you'll be going from a very heavy bumper pull to a gooseneck. The geometry is very different between the two. I tell people all the time "once you get a gooseneck, you'll never want another bumper pull."
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Thanks that gives me some peace of mind
 
I'm one of those weirdos who likes to have more tow vehicle than needed, and I don't enjoy towing at the limits. I've seen too many situations on the roads where people didn't have enough vehicle, and the load just manhandled them, makes for miserable travel.
 
Firebird said:
I'm one of those weirdos who likes to have more tow vehicle than needed, and I don't enjoy towing at the limits. I've seen too many situations on the roads where people didn't have enough vehicle, and the load just manhandled them, makes for miserable travel.
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Exactly....if youve never seen or been near the tail wagging the dog you don't understand....when towing... more capability is king....keeps your rig from operating at max capacity and gives you some latitude if a strange situation was to occur....also there's some confusion in this thread I think between "stability" and "body roll"....side winds on your huge 5er comes to mind....the dually has more stability and traction to offset what single rear trucks go thru in that scenario....a dually always feels more planted to the ground than a single rear....
 
Way to heavy for an SRW . You are going to be pushing 4 K pin weight plus. Duallies are not my favorite but with that weight I can see no choice . E tires are not rated for that weight either . You have an accident and the Lawyers will be looking for any reason to blame you ... Sure you can tow it but is it safe and controllable ?
 
Your empty weight is way off . I had a 14 4wd Mega SRW . I had to get a certified wt ticket . 8160 lbs . That 160 screwed me out of getting a break on registration fees . By the time u put you, passengers ,fuel and misc gear your hitting close to 9k .
 
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