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matemike said:
our figures differ a little.

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I got 200,000 miles being the break even point. But man oh man is it worth it for it's capabilities, really can't put a price on that.
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You only figured on the gas mileage cost savings.. You have to also include the difference in trade-in values. Think 5 year cost to own.

At 40,000 miles if you take 2 trucks optioned exactly the same with the only difference being the engine you will see the trade-in of the 6.7L equipped one being worth over 8k more than the 6.4L equipped one. If the cost difference was $9,450 new and $8,000 in trade-in difference you only have to make up about $1,500 in fuel savings to hit the break even point. Yes maintenance costs on a 6.7L are higher, but you will break even at 40,000 miles
 
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kwick66 said:
@Coonhound
I switched my oem Duramax pads at 10 years and 140k Miles just because they had never been done. They Still had about 40% remaining.
This new truck will be my first Ram, and I’ve seen a few times on this thread that guys are switching out brake pads at 50-70k. Thanks for posting this, gives me some faith knowing that it’s likely poor driving habits that cause this.
i am looking forward to the exhaust brake feature, I use the tow/haul on my GM every time I drive it.
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I guess it breaks down to so many factors, it's hard to say if they last 50k, 90k or 200. Like you say, it depends on driving habits but also geographical area, highway miles VS city driving, 4.10s vs 3.73, gas vs diesel, loads, using tow mode or not.

I remember this one guy was towing a monster of a fifth wheel toy hauler. He saw me parked and walked up and asked me if I knew anything about the tow mode. Asked me if I thought he needed to use it or not. I was like, hell yeah you need to use it.
 
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Lee Iacocca said:
I assume you’re joking? It’s first use is for fertilizer, not DEF. We are talking about Urea, water and pee.
Not meaning to sound abrasive, which I am sure this came across, sorry.

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Yes, but way less, I have swapped out a bunch DEF tanks for testing, nasty stuff.
 
Grey65 said:
You only figured on the gas mileage cost savings.. You have to also include the difference in trade-in values. Think 5 year costs to own.

At 40,000 miles if you take 2 trucks optioned exactly the same with the only difference being the engine you will see the trade-in of the 6.7L equipped one being worth over 8k more than the 6.4L equipped one. If the cost difference was $9,450 new and $8,000 in trade-in difference you only have to make up about $1,500 in fuel savings to hit the break even point. Yes maintenance costs on a 6.7L are higher, but you will break even at 40,000 miles
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Ah, I get it.
So if you're buying new then reselling every 40k miles then ya. Makes sense.
With that mind set, the guys who say that a diesel engine is just barely broken-in at 200k miles and promote the longevity angle; well their argument goes out the window. According to them you're only a 1/5th of the way broken-in every time you sell it. Sounds like the guys picking up a 40k mile used diesel truck for waaaaay under new price are making out the best in the whole scheme.

Nonethelss though, if you tow, even if it's just 10% of the time on flat ground, the diesel performance and abilities makes it worth more than just the $'s. The towing experience and comfort to me would be priceless. That's all I'm saying.
 
matemike said:
Ah, I get it.
So if you're buying new then reselling every 40k miles then ya. Makes sense.
With that mind set, the guys who say that a diesel engine is just barely broken-in at 200k miles and promote the longevity angle; well their argument goes out the window. According to them you're only a 1/5th of the way broken-in every time you sell it. Sounds like the guys picking up a 40k mile used diesel truck for waaaaay under new price are making out the best in the whole scheme.

Nonethelss though, if you tow, even if it's just 10% of the time on flat ground, the diesel performance and abilities makes it worth more than just the $'s. The towing experience and comfort to me would be priceless. That's all I'm saying.
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After 100,000 miles the value difference is still about $8,000.. But now you have saved even more in fuel.... The longer you own it past 40,000 miles the more you are in the black by getting the 6.7L..
40,000 miles is when you go from red to black.... You get more into the black the LONGER you own it....
 
dperry149 said:
how did the lane assist and radar cruise control do?
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I have lane assist in my limited 2500 and can tell you that it is nowhere near as sensitive as the lane assist I had in my 1500. With my 1500 you could take your hands off the wheel on a steep curve and it would keep you in the lane. With the 2500 not so much. In my 1500 if I tried to change lanes without using my signal, my truck would jerk itself back into my original lane. Not with the 2500. Kinda disappointed in the lane keep assist on this one.
 
Tyadcock said:
I have lane assist in my limited 2500 and can tell you that it is nowhere near as sensitive as the lane assist I had in my 1500. With my 1500 you could take your hands off the wheel on a steep curve and it would keep you in the lane. With the 2500 not so much. In my 1500 if I tried to change lanes without using my signal, my truck would jerk itself back into my original lane. Not with the 2500. Kinda disappointed in the lane keep assist on this one.
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I think you can set the sensitivity of the lane assist
 
Linked4door said:
Pretty good actually. Rhe cruise control was tremendously better then my 2019 limited. Still not as good as some small cars, but very usable. The lane assist wasn't bad, but it felt a little soft for my liking. When I would drift out of my lane, rhe correction seemed a little weak and slow to respond. I haven't gone through any of the settings yet to see if it can be adjusted like most other cars. It acted good enough to do its job aa warning for sure. I would just like it to be slightly more aggressive. But it could just be that its as good as it gets for this heavy ass truck. Or the fact I was driving for 18hrs and being a little too dependent on it keep me in my lane with how tired I was lol.


All in all they both did very well a d I am glad I have them. I definitely regretted getting the cruise control in my 2019 though. Glad ram has made improvements. I am going to go through the settings and see if anything can be tweaked though.
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Let me know if you can find a way to increase the sensitivity of it. I feel the exact same way you do about it.
 
scrambler1000 said:
I think you can set the sensitivity of the lane assist
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Not sure I could depend on Lane Assist! I like having control of my vehicle instead of my vehicle having control of me. What if I needed to make a quick jerk to the left/right to dodge an animal or an alligator in the middle of the road, would this Lane Assist allow me to make these corrections or try to over ride my intuition?
 
Coonhound said:
DEF:
Here's a few tips. As previously mentioned, the cheapest way I know to purchase the stuff is at the truck stop pumps. Roll up with the semis, run in and tell the cashier, DEF on pump #5 or whatever. It's cheaper and better than buying it in a plastic, throw away jug. Here's another tip: If you buy a couple jugs, refill them at the truck stop so you have a couple in the garage. On long road trips and hunting trips, it's not a bad idea to take a full jug along just in case. YES, you can get bad DEF at truck stops but quality control has improved. Only happened to me once in 450,000 miles of traveling in 5 years. Didn't cause me any real problems but I've heard a few stories. It is mostly a liquid fertilizer that's been used in no till farming for a long time. Mid Western farmers buy Uria by the tank load.

On a different note, the fold up seats on the CC long bed WITH the fold flat cargo area. As previously mentioned, great for throwing down a blanket and the dog bed so Pluto stays off your seats. The cloth seats seem to hold onto pet hair like Velcro. Also a really good use for that fold flat goodie: put a crib mattress down and sleep in your truck. You can also find someone to make a custom mattress out of foam pad and stitch a cover on it. You can buy all different thickness and stiffness and have it cut to your own specs. There's a business in Portland Oregon that does it. Truck drivers and hunters will do this. You can have one made for your pickup too. I'm 6"1 so it's not super comfortable but me and the wife got cozy many times and made it work, saving thousands of dollars on hotel costs.
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How much is it at the pumps right now? I was just checking online and the cheapest I found is $7.90 a gal!
 
Linked4door said:
I paid $13 yesterday to fill my def tank from about an 1/8th of a tank
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That's not too bad. Sounds like it's just under $3 a gal. You filled up at the pumps I take it?
 
Tyadcock said:
I have lane assist in my limited 2500 and can tell you that it is nowhere near as sensitive as the lane assist I had in my 1500. With my 1500 you could take your hands off the wheel on a steep curve and it would keep you in the lane. With the 2500 not so much. In my 1500 if I tried to change lanes without using my signal, my truck would jerk itself back into my original lane. Not with the 2500. Kinda disappointed in the lane keep assist on this one.
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Completely different steering system, electric gear vs Hydraulic with a electric motor mounted on the gearbox.
 
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