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Thanks for the information guys. Got a gun show next weekend so will be looking.

As for shooting, last time I went out for the day, I shot about 250 rounds, so it won't take me long to hit 1000 rounds. Now that I have several guns, it may take even less time. :cool:
 
Crusty old shellback said:
Thanks for the information guys. Got a gun show next weekend so will be looking.

As for shooting, last time I went out for the day, I shot about 250 rounds, so it won't take me long to hit 1000 rounds. Now that I have several guns, it may take even less time. :cool:
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I was talking about 1000 rounds of 5.7 lol I’m on a budget
 
Yea, I'm shooting .38s as the .357 are expensive. I did shoot about 30 of them just to get used to it. New pistol is 9mm so that's fairly cheap as well. Will be stocking up at the gun show. Got 500 rounds of factory reload .38s for less than $200 at the last gun show.
 
Reclaimed brass or whole rounds pulled and then reloaded by a large ammo plant.

I've bought second hand ammo on occasion for a smokin deal (300BLK mostly) but always pull and reload, never ever shoot someone elses hand loads.
 
I've always kept my brass with the parent gun.

But I recall when I was a kid and Dad's hunting buddy reloaded their hi-power ammo. Dad shot a 700 Remington and John shot a model 70 Winchester, both in .270 Winchester. John reloaded all the .270 and they both shot from the same box. They bagged a lot of deer and javelina like that. John loaded all the .270 and Dad loaded all the 12 gauge, except for the ones I loaded of course. Back when I was just a kid, I would sit down and reload hundreds of rounds of 12 gauge at times. Those were community loads too and we did run into trouble with certain shotguns that were finicky cycling some reloads, even though we always resized everything. Good times.
 
Been thinking about doing reloads. Wondering how cost effective it is?
Between me, cousin, his 2 sons and one of their buddies, we probably shoot 1000 rounds when we go out to shoot. About once a month.
 
Old School. All metal all the time and maybe a bit of wood. Beretta 84FS "Cheetah" since 1993. Long gun Ruger mini 14 in 5.56. Savage 308 for reaching out and touching. Old, yes, quirks yes, but they all have them, but reliable and robust, for sure. In the Marines, I first had an M14, loved it shot 248 out of 250 on the range, even if a bit heavy. THEN, I got an M16 A1 and it was a royal PITA POS. I was soured on that platform for life... I've always loved the retro engineered wart put on the side of AR platformed weapons. That "forward Assist" designed to "FIX" a basic foundational design flaw that is still in play on the "perfect rifle." Yeah, right. I actually saw one without the forward assist in consignment at a local store. Not a military version but late 60's of some sort. It sat there for a year... I talked to the YOUNG guy and asked him if he'd ever seen one without the forward assist. He said he hadn't and I explained the history. AND asked, so, what do you do if a round jams on the consigned one. He thought for a minute and I finally said, you tear it down and apart find something to dig the round out of the innards, put it back together and wait another 10 rounds for it to happen again... What was Stoner thinking? Well, I guess it was the sixties. And the Air Force had em first...so what do you expect?

As for action? Garand beats the poop out of amazingly dirty direct impingement. All that dirt, all dressed up and no place to go... After a few hundred rounds in a firefight, it usually gets into the action and jams things up. It only took the military 50 years to figure it out. Notice although similar on the outside, the new rifles do NOT have direct impingment. AND, there is a reason they brought all those old M14's out of storage in Afghanistan and Iraq, tricked em out a bit "EBR's" and inserted them into almost all front line units. And I grew up on lever action so have a requisite 336Y with the 16.5 barrel. Handy is its mantra...
 
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I've never had to use forward assist, including the years I spent with an M16 (though to be fair, I wasn't a ground pounder).

Those early issues were due to many factors and are really no longer relevant running a well built AR. There are many well documented ultra dirty AR's that have runs tens of thousands of rounds without being cleaned and are still functional. 10 round jams are nothing but an old tired myth.

I own them all, DI, Piston, bolt, handguns, silencers, SBR's, etc. None of my guns save for a 1911 running underpowered hand loads (during my load testing) has ever had an issue running*. If they did, they'd be gone. My bugout gun and the one that sits beside me every day is a silenced Noveske N4 Recce and I'd trust it with my life.

* To be fair, I did have a Sig 716 Patrol that was replaced as it would never reliably run suppressed. Keep in mind that's a piston gun with a user adjustable (4 positions) gas block. The replacement has been flawless and runs like a Singer.
 
Brutal_HO said:
I've never had to use forward assist, including the years I spent with an M16 (though to be fair, I wasn't a ground pounder).

Those early issues were due to many factors and are really no longer relevant running a well built AR. There are many well documented ultra dirty AR's that have runs tens of thousands of rounds without being cleaned and are still functional. 10 round jams are nothing but an old tired myth.

I own them all, DI, Piston, bolt, handguns, silencers, SBR's, etc. None of my guns save for a 1911 running underpowered hand loads (during my load testing) has ever had an issue running*. If they did, they'd be gone. My bugout gun and the one that sits beside me every day is a silenced Noveske N4 Recce and I'd trust it with my life.

* To be fair, I did have a Sig 716 Patrol that was replaced as it would never reliably run suppressed. Keep in mind that's a piston gun with a user adjustable (4 positions) gas block. The replacement has been flawless and runs like a Singer.
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To each their own.
 
Redfour5 said:
To each their own.
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Sounds like your own and my own are similar. All my semi's have jammed on me at some point - handguns, shotguns, rifles, including my AR. I don't mean to make it sound like they jam all the time but they all have jammed. I tend to lean toward revolvers, bolts, pumps and levers. I don't recall one of them ever jamming. I do pack semi-automatic shotguns as a rule though. I can cycle a pump but I've been shotgunning by just a pull of the trigger for too many decades now. Kind of an old dog thing, I reckon.
 
Brutal_HO said:
I've never had to use forward assist, including the years I spent with an M16 (though to be fair, I wasn't a ground pounder).

Those early issues were due to many factors and are really no longer relevant running a well built AR. There are many well documented ultra dirty AR's that have runs tens of thousands of rounds without being cleaned and are still functional. 10 round jams are nothing but an old tired myth.

I own them all, DI, Piston, bolt, handguns, silencers, SBR's, etc. None of my guns save for a 1911 running underpowered hand loads (during my load testing) has ever had an issue running*. If they did, they'd be gone. My bugout gun and the one that sits beside me every day is a silenced Noveske N4 Recce and I'd trust it with my life.

* To be fair, I did have a Sig 716 Patrol that was replaced as it would never reliably run suppressed. Keep in mind that's a piston gun with a user adjustable (4 positions) gas block. The replacement has been flawless and runs like a Singer.
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You never had to use the forward assist, but its is still there isn't it. And yes, if you work on something for fifty years that wasn't right in the first place, you will be able to address most of the problems. They finally found a purpose for the platform in the M4. Short, 50 years of working out most issues. It was perfect for Falluga, clearing buildings, shooting across the street... And then you had Afghanistan and the suckers are sitting up on a hill above you 800 yards away and that M4 was worthless for anything other than suppression, call in the A10's whereas, your guy with the M14 EBR was picking them off and getting a few of them... I must admit that my A1 made a decent hose before it jammed... Stick it up above your head run it around with the trigger pulled until the mag was empty, put in another mag, no one was jumping in that fox hole... Oh, but then that defeats one of the primary rationalizations for it over the M14. It has lighter ammunition! So, you don't have to carry as much... And thus, the Marines came out with the A2 and a three round limit... And then how many iterations after that up until the M4? Now, if you have no baseline for comparison as 50 years of troops did not, your only point of reference is the AR platform. You never fired anything else so you really don't know what other combat rifles are like. But if you notice, very few "special operators" carry AR platformed weapons as they DO have the ability to try different ones out and KNOW what they like and what works for them and very few of them carry AR platformed weapons per my understanding although some do. Ever notice how few countries use them, unless we give them to them for free. And even those who do use them after capturing a country including its army seldom have any after a few years and the first time they jam and it is a PITA to fix em and so they go pick up their old trusty AK that doesn't need to be babied all the time...
 
Brutal_HO said:
Reclaimed brass or whole rounds pulled and then reloaded by a large ammo plant.

I've bought second hand ammo on occasion for a smokin deal (300BLK mostly) but always pull and reload, never ever shoot someone elses hand loads.
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I bought reload 300 BLK as well and that’s what I was shooting when my Sugar Weasel jammed and has to go back. Sure hope it wasn’t the ammo, although a buddy shooting right next me with same Ammo had no issue.

For EDC, I carry a 509c with delta point red dot and apex trigger. I use a Harry’s IWB holster and when I wear my tighter clothing or athletic wear I print quite a bit. Recently bought a VNSH holster but my 509 doesn’t fit well in it. So, I’m looking at picking up either a FN Reflex or Walther PDP F series- yes I know the Walther intended for females but I could careless hahaha My hope is to find a slightly smaller carry without feeling like a toy. Being that I love my FN 509 and my Walther Q4, figured sticking with these is a good idea. Going to try and find both locally to hold and hopefully shoot. Anyone have any experience with either? They’re relatively new pistols.
 
Put a vortex defender on the Rock. The Holosun k series has slightly better reviews but it’s Chinese and I’m a vortex fanboy. The vortex is also $50-75 cheaper.

The first set of screws I grabbed fit and it was slaved to the irons right out of the gate. Popped a few subsonics (not pictured) into the trap and it seems to be on target.

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Brutal_HO said:
True.

I also don't own any heavier than a 9mm, open slide relics, chambered in .380. Though my wife does have a Sig P238.

;)

All in good fun. Any gun is better than no gun.
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The P238 is a shooter! Love mine. Only gets carried when I can't carry the bigger piece but for some odd reason I absolutely love that little pocket rocket.
 
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