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You can't imagine the absurdity of Stellantis Road Side Assistance program

Well I was a lifelong GM guy (decades) and moved over to Ram last year due to a similar situation where the GM folks basically said, sorry we can't help you.

So be careful thinking about greener grass. They've all been selling HD trucks as fast as they can get them off the line so customer service hasn't really been a thing for some time now. If you don't buy another Ram, someone else will be waiting to take it and they know it. They probably told 90% of their customer service folks that they had to go to the line and build trucks.

I keep thinking that if things ever get back to "normal" maybe we'll see things like customer service pick back up again. Would be nice if prices quit sky rocketing at the same time.
 
@RamCares this type of situation is where customer service should be shining. is this really the best that can be done?

who can be empowered to assist?

unbelievable, but not surprising....
 
I had similar issues with roadside assistance. My truck blew a snapring 600 miles away from home. Cost me close to $4000 to get my truck and 37 foot 5th wheel home. My dealer didn't have a transmission guy. Second dealer was backed up over a month to even be able to diagnose issue. Third dealer fixed my truck in 2 days. Had to pay both tows from my home to 1st dealer and then from the first dealer to the second one. My truck had 6100 miles on it when it failed. There is another thread where someone is tracking issues.


Did you get any reimbursement after the fact?
 
My dealer didn't have a transmission guy. Second dealer was backed up over a month to even be able to diagnose issue. Third dealer fixed my truck in 2 days.
Except for the last dealer who fixed it in two days, that sounds like par for the course with Ram service departments for the past couple of years. Don't think they can blame COVID supply chain issues anymore. I wonder why the lack of technicians? I am not sure if he was telling the truth, but the service manager at our local dealership told me this: He cannot find anyone to take his 10 open positions. He claimed that they are not requiring experience, but they will train. After training he said they earn 6 figures. Still, he is only 1/2 staffed.
 
I know this is an older thread, but I'm having trouble getting towing reimbursement because I submitted the claim more than 30 days after it was towed at 6K miles after the tranny and transfer case went out. But it took them over 60 days to get it repaired!!! Anyone have any help on this. Thanks
 
I was going to do my own post, but it seems like this one is a good place to put this information as it is directly topical and may lend insite as to what you can expect in terms of coverage and reimbursement in the event of a breakdown while in the coverage period.

Vehicle:
2022 Ram 3500 Cab Chassis with the same Aisin transmission that they put in the HO models.
K1 snapring failure at approximately 37,500 miles.

Situation:
This occurred in remote Utah, 28 miles from the nearest town, and 109 miles from the nearest Ram dealership in Cortez, CO.
Called roadside assistance, was sent a text link to fill out a request. Filled out and submitted the request via the link, received a callback within 30 minutes.
  • Roadside: We cannot find anyone to tow you, do you have a zip code to help us source a vendor?
  • Me: No, I am in the middle of nowhere, approximately 22 miles from X intersection along route X. I can provide you a GPS coordinate.
  • Roadside: I cannot use a GPS coordinate. Without a zip code I cannot help you. Can you call us back tomorrow and we may be able to assist you better?
  • Me: I am stranded on the side of the road, in the middle of a desert, with no facilities available, and you want me to call you back tomorrow to see if you MAY be able to help me? This is not a realistic option, please advise.
  • Roadside: I can call 911 to help you if you like. That or you could find your own vendor and seek reimbursement.
  • Me: You cannot find me for a tow truck, but you can assist me by calling 911. How do you know where to send them, and what is my immediate life threatening emergency that requires 911?
  • This went back and forth for a few rounds before we told them we would self help and seek reimbursement.
Source one of the only two tow services within 50 miles, provided them a GPS pin drop and picture of the truck, they quoted a tow to the closest RAM dealer and arrived in two hours. $2050, 109 miles, and a few hours later we were dropped off at the RAM dealer in Cortez, CO. It was Easter Sunday, so they were not open.

I won't cover the details of getting transportation to Durango for the family and pet, getting lodging, obtaining a one-way rental vehicle (closest rental place which had a one way was Durango), loading up the rental truck with all of our stuff, and driving 5 hours to our home.

The dealer in Cortez was amicable, though they did not promise anything in terms of warrant support. In the end, they determined it was the K1 snap ring failure issue, that parts were on order, and that they would call us once repaired. All costs of repair would be covered. So we will drive the 10 hours round trip to pick it up once it is repaired. At least fuel is cheap these days...not.

Submitted a reimbursement request via Stellantis site, requested reimbursement for tow, uber to nearest city, loading for 1 night, and one way rental to home. Received a reply indicating they would cover up to their maximum amount. Check the ticket and of the $2500 plus, they would reimburse exactly $100.

Called to ask and was told:
  • They only cover towing up to a maximum amount of $100.
  • They do not cover other incidentals.

Asked to escalate and was denied.

Contacted RamCares, was told they only cover 10 miles of towing, and reimburse up to a maximum of $100.

Asked to escalate and was sent to roadside assistance who said the exact same thing.

From the Mopar roadside assistance website: https://www.mopar.com/en-us/assistance/roadside-assistance.html
  • Under Coverage Details: 24 Hour Towing Assistance covers jump-starts or towing to the nearest FCA US LLC dealer and is applicable for the term of the manufacturer's warranty period of 5 years or 60,000 miles (gas) or 5 years or 100,000 miles (diesel), whichever comes first.
  • Under What to Expect: The towing service will transport your vehicle to the Service Department of the closest Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep®, Ram, FIAT® or Alfa Romeo dealership. Please keep in mind, if you choose to go to another dealership, additional charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles.
A - I was essentially left abandoned on the side of the road with no support or roadside assistance service at all.
We were fortunate that the weather was good, that we had Starlink to find a tow service, and that we had a camper to shelter in with onboard water.​
B - I was towed to the closest RAM dealership available.
C - I did not choose to go to another dealership so the "charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles" does not apply.

In short - unless you happen to fall within a very narrow window of proximity to dealer, identifiable physical location with a street address, you will receive no adequate support from Roadside Assistance. You will be left to foot the bill beyond the $100 mark, and they will NOT follow the published coverage on their own site but rather their own internal policies which are not consistent with what they market to the public...even if you read their fine print.

One other point of note which is a slight deviation from the topic, but related:
Over the course of the last 37 years, my wife and I have owned 27 vehicles between the two of us. The vast majority of them purchased used with over 100k miles on them, and many lasting into the lower 200k miles before selling them. This is the first vehicle that has left us stranded on the side of the road of all of them. Maintenance was up to date, the vehicle weights etc. are within the manufacturer's limits, and we drive this thing with mechanical sympathy. The fact that this was a TSB failure and covered provided some relief in our choice of vehicles. The way Stallantis failed to support us in any meaningful way remains abysmal.​

I also run a fleet of over 300 vehicles across multiple states. Far be it from me to remember this when RAM comes knocking on our door each quarter to incentivize us to purchase their platform.
 
From the Mopar roadside assistance website: https://www.mopar.com/en-us/assistance/roadside-assistance.html
  • Under Coverage Details: 24 Hour Towing Assistance covers jump-starts or towing to the nearest FCA US LLC dealer and is applicable for the term of the manufacturer's warranty period of 5 years or 60,000 miles (gas) or 5 years or 100,000 miles (diesel), whichever comes first.
  • Under What to Expect: The towing service will transport your vehicle to the Service Department of the closest Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep®, Ram, FIAT® or Alfa Romeo dealership. Please keep in mind, if you choose to go to another dealership, additional charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles.

This would seem to imply that there will be a charge for the tow plus an additional charge if you choose another dealer that is 11 or more miles farther away from the nearest one. Due to the phrase "additional charges will apply"
 
I was going to do my own post, but it seems like this one is a good place to put this information as it is directly topical and may lend insite as to what you can expect in terms of coverage and reimbursement in the event of a breakdown while in the coverage period.

Vehicle:
2022 Ram 3500 Cab Chassis with the same Aisin transmission that they put in the HO models.
K1 snapring failure at approximately 37,500 miles.

Situation:
This occurred in remote Utah, 28 miles from the nearest town, and 109 miles from the nearest Ram dealership in Cortez, CO.
Called roadside assistance, was sent a text link to fill out a request. Filled out and submitted the request via the link, received a callback within 30 minutes.
  • Roadside: We cannot find anyone to tow you, do you have a zip code to help us source a vendor?
  • Me: No, I am in the middle of nowhere, approximately 22 miles from X intersection along route X. I can provide you a GPS coordinate.
  • Roadside: I cannot use a GPS coordinate. Without a zip code I cannot help you. Can you call us back tomorrow and we may be able to assist you better?
  • Me: I am stranded on the side of the road, in the middle of a desert, with no facilities available, and you want me to call you back tomorrow to see if you MAY be able to help me? This is not a realistic option, please advise.
  • Roadside: I can call 911 to help you if you like. That or you could find your own vendor and seek reimbursement.
  • Me: You cannot find me for a tow truck, but you can assist me by calling 911. How do you know where to send them, and what is my immediate life threatening emergency that requires 911?
  • This went back and forth for a few rounds before we told them we would self help and seek reimbursement.
Source one of the only two tow services within 50 miles, provided them a GPS pin drop and picture of the truck, they quoted a tow to the closest RAM dealer and arrived in two hours. $2050, 109 miles, and a few hours later we were dropped off at the RAM dealer in Cortez, CO. It was Easter Sunday, so they were not open.

I won't cover the details of getting transportation to Durango for the family and pet, getting lodging, obtaining a one-way rental vehicle (closest rental place which had a one way was Durango), loading up the rental truck with all of our stuff, and driving 5 hours to our home.

The dealer in Cortez was amicable, though they did not promise anything in terms of warrant support. In the end, they determined it was the K1 snap ring failure issue, that parts were on order, and that they would call us once repaired. All costs of repair would be covered. So we will drive the 10 hours round trip to pick it up once it is repaired. At least fuel is cheap these days...not.

Submitted a reimbursement request via Stellantis site, requested reimbursement for tow, uber to nearest city, loading for 1 night, and one way rental to home. Received a reply indicating they would cover up to their maximum amount. Check the ticket and of the $2500 plus, they would reimburse exactly $100.

Called to ask and was told:
  • They only cover towing up to a maximum amount of $100.
  • They do not cover other incidentals.

Asked to escalate and was denied.

Contacted RamCares, was told they only cover 10 miles of towing, and reimburse up to a maximum of $100.

Asked to escalate and was sent to roadside assistance who said the exact same thing.

From the Mopar roadside assistance website: https://www.mopar.com/en-us/assistance/roadside-assistance.html
  • Under Coverage Details: 24 Hour Towing Assistance covers jump-starts or towing to the nearest FCA US LLC dealer and is applicable for the term of the manufacturer's warranty period of 5 years or 60,000 miles (gas) or 5 years or 100,000 miles (diesel), whichever comes first.
  • Under What to Expect: The towing service will transport your vehicle to the Service Department of the closest Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep®, Ram, FIAT® or Alfa Romeo dealership. Please keep in mind, if you choose to go to another dealership, additional charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles.
A - I was essentially left abandoned on the side of the road with no support or roadside assistance service at all.
We were fortunate that the weather was good, that we had Starlink to find a tow service, and that we had a camper to shelter in with onboard water.​
B - I was towed to the closest RAM dealership available.
C - I did not choose to go to another dealership so the "charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles" does not apply.

In short - unless you happen to fall within a very narrow window of proximity to dealer, identifiable physical location with a street address, you will receive no adequate support from Roadside Assistance. You will be left to foot the bill beyond the $100 mark, and they will NOT follow the published coverage on their own site but rather their own internal policies which are not consistent with what they market to the public...even if you read their fine print.

One other point of note which is a slight deviation from the topic, but related:
Over the course of the last 37 years, my wife and I have owned 27 vehicles between the two of us. The vast majority of them purchased used with over 100k miles on them, and many lasting into the lower 200k miles before selling them. This is the first vehicle that has left us stranded on the side of the road of all of them. Maintenance was up to date, the vehicle weights etc. are within the manufacturer's limits, and we drive this thing with mechanical sympathy. The fact that this was a TSB failure and covered provided some relief in our choice of vehicles. The way Stallantis failed to support us in any meaningful way remains abysmal.​

I also run a fleet of over 300 vehicles across multiple states. Far be it from me to remember this when RAM comes knocking on our door each quarter to incentivize us to purchase their platform.
This type of BS is why I pay for AAA road service each year, I have their 100 mile tow coverage and it came in handy when I locked us out of my kids BMW and they had to flatbed her car 88 miles from the Oregon coast to Portland the nearest BMW dealership and at no cost to us, if I would of had to pay for it being it was on a weekend it would have cost us over $1500 but AAA covered the tow bill, its why I never leave home without making sure my AAA road service is in force...
 
I was going to do my own post, but it seems like this one is a good place to put this information as it is directly topical and may lend insite as to what you can expect in terms of coverage and reimbursement in the event of a breakdown while in the coverage period.
Might check with your auto insurance. Many policies cover towing these days.
 
From the Mopar roadside assistance website: https://www.mopar.com/en-us/assistance/roadside-assistance.html
  • Under Coverage Details: 24 Hour Towing Assistance covers jump-starts or towing to the nearest FCA US LLC dealer and is applicable for the term of the manufacturer's warranty period of 5 years or 60,000 miles (gas) or 5 years or 100,000 miles (diesel), whichever comes first.
  • Under What to Expect: The towing service will transport your vehicle to the Service Department of the closest Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep®, Ram, FIAT® or Alfa Romeo dealership. Please keep in mind, if you choose to go to another dealership, additional charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles.

This would seem to imply that there will be a charge for the tow plus an additional charge if you choose another dealer that is 11 or more miles farther away from the nearest one. Due to the phrase "additional charges will apply"
There are things that they specify they will charge you for. All in the link I provided, but one example is:
  • Winching is provided for covered vehicles that are located within 10 feet from a paved public road. If additional winching is required, then the cost thereof must be borne by the driver of the covered vehicle.
They seem to specify on the site what is "extra", but the way I am reading things seems to be different than yours.

On that note, I disagree with your assessment of an implied charge for towing to the first dealer based upon their statement that.
  • 24 Hour Towing Assistance covers jump-starts or towing to the nearest FCA US LLC dealer
Either way, weather I agree or disagree with your interpretation of the second bullet versus the first, in reality their internal policies will trump what they are providing to the public so it is a moot point. So marketing info is overstating how they will take care of the customer, despite their own fine print (which nobody reads, but I did) and should not be relied upon when deciding between which brand of vehicle to purchase.

It the client is to be saddled for (in my case) 95% of the towing bill, then it may be better to pick a brand that has more dealerships to make the towing bills lower. That or select an alternative towing insurance outside of the manufacturer...AAA or others is the direction we will now go.

Additionally, RAM has a known defect which they choose to satisfy as a convenience campaign versus a recall. With a recall they would have potentially affected units to be proactively brought in and inspected, then repaired or cleared to continue in operation. This would make 90% of the roadside tow issues moot, as they would be proactive versus reactive in the approach. There are numerous recalls from several other manufacturers related to loss of drive due to transmission issues. Those other manufacturers see that as a safety issue, and proactively address it. RAM appears to see it as an inconvenience, and does not seem to think it is a safety issue.

Remember that this is not a 3k pound Honda Civic losing drive. This is a vehicle that on its high end is capable of towing over 37k pounds, with a maximum possible combined gross vehicle rating of 45k pounds.

Here is my bottom line.
  1. It is not if you have a problem, it is how you address said problem that determines your perceived character and ultimately if people choose to align and support you or go elsewhere.
  2. I will not, and advise others not to, rely on the manufacturer for any roadside assistance. Their claims do not match their actions. Seeking a 3rd party insurance for such events for redundancy purposes is not only advised, but responsible. Unfortunate but true.
 
I was going to do my own post, but it seems like this one is a good place to put this information as it is directly topical and may lend insite as to what you can expect in terms of coverage and reimbursement in the event of a breakdown while in the coverage period.

Vehicle:
2022 Ram 3500 Cab Chassis with the same Aisin transmission that they put in the HO models.
K1 snapring failure at approximately 37,500 miles.

Situation:
This occurred in remote Utah, 28 miles from the nearest town, and 109 miles from the nearest Ram dealership in Cortez, CO.
Called roadside assistance, was sent a text link to fill out a request. Filled out and submitted the request via the link, received a callback within 30 minutes.
  • Roadside: We cannot find anyone to tow you, do you have a zip code to help us source a vendor?
  • Me: No, I am in the middle of nowhere, approximately 22 miles from X intersection along route X. I can provide you a GPS coordinate.
  • Roadside: I cannot use a GPS coordinate. Without a zip code I cannot help you. Can you call us back tomorrow and we may be able to assist you better?
  • Me: I am stranded on the side of the road, in the middle of a desert, with no facilities available, and you want me to call you back tomorrow to see if you MAY be able to help me? This is not a realistic option, please advise.
  • Roadside: I can call 911 to help you if you like. That or you could find your own vendor and seek reimbursement.
  • Me: You cannot find me for a tow truck, but you can assist me by calling 911. How do you know where to send them, and what is my immediate life threatening emergency that requires 911?
  • This went back and forth for a few rounds before we told them we would self help and seek reimbursement.
Source one of the only two tow services within 50 miles, provided them a GPS pin drop and picture of the truck, they quoted a tow to the closest RAM dealer and arrived in two hours. $2050, 109 miles, and a few hours later we were dropped off at the RAM dealer in Cortez, CO. It was Easter Sunday, so they were not open.

I won't cover the details of getting transportation to Durango for the family and pet, getting lodging, obtaining a one-way rental vehicle (closest rental place which had a one way was Durango), loading up the rental truck with all of our stuff, and driving 5 hours to our home.

The dealer in Cortez was amicable, though they did not promise anything in terms of warrant support. In the end, they determined it was the K1 snap ring failure issue, that parts were on order, and that they would call us once repaired. All costs of repair would be covered. So we will drive the 10 hours round trip to pick it up once it is repaired. At least fuel is cheap these days...not.

Submitted a reimbursement request via Stellantis site, requested reimbursement for tow, uber to nearest city, loading for 1 night, and one way rental to home. Received a reply indicating they would cover up to their maximum amount. Check the ticket and of the $2500 plus, they would reimburse exactly $100.

Called to ask and was told:
  • They only cover towing up to a maximum amount of $100.
  • They do not cover other incidentals.

Asked to escalate and was denied.

Contacted RamCares, was told they only cover 10 miles of towing, and reimburse up to a maximum of $100.

Asked to escalate and was sent to roadside assistance who said the exact same thing.

From the Mopar roadside assistance website: https://www.mopar.com/en-us/assistance/roadside-assistance.html
  • Under Coverage Details: 24 Hour Towing Assistance covers jump-starts or towing to the nearest FCA US LLC dealer and is applicable for the term of the manufacturer's warranty period of 5 years or 60,000 miles (gas) or 5 years or 100,000 miles (diesel), whichever comes first.
  • Under What to Expect: The towing service will transport your vehicle to the Service Department of the closest Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep®, Ram, FIAT® or Alfa Romeo dealership. Please keep in mind, if you choose to go to another dealership, additional charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles.
A - I was essentially left abandoned on the side of the road with no support or roadside assistance service at all.
We were fortunate that the weather was good, that we had Starlink to find a tow service, and that we had a camper to shelter in with onboard water.​
B - I was towed to the closest RAM dealership available.
C - I did not choose to go to another dealership so the "charges will apply if the added distance exceeds 10 miles" does not apply.

In short - unless you happen to fall within a very narrow window of proximity to dealer, identifiable physical location with a street address, you will receive no adequate support from Roadside Assistance. You will be left to foot the bill beyond the $100 mark, and they will NOT follow the published coverage on their own site but rather their own internal policies which are not consistent with what they market to the public...even if you read their fine print.

One other point of note which is a slight deviation from the topic, but related:
Over the course of the last 37 years, my wife and I have owned 27 vehicles between the two of us. The vast majority of them purchased used with over 100k miles on them, and many lasting into the lower 200k miles before selling them. This is the first vehicle that has left us stranded on the side of the road of all of them. Maintenance was up to date, the vehicle weights etc. are within the manufacturer's limits, and we drive this thing with mechanical sympathy. The fact that this was a TSB failure and covered provided some relief in our choice of vehicles. The way Stallantis failed to support us in any meaningful way remains abysmal.​

I also run a fleet of over 300 vehicles across multiple states. Far be it from me to remember this when RAM comes knocking on our door each quarter to incentivize us to purchase their platform.
Same BS with RAMCares. Truck stranded us on a highway while towing 11k lbs due to K1 at <3,000 miles. In the middle of a highly populated area, and RAM dealer within 10 miles, they could not locate a suitable roadside assistance. Had to get support to get off the highway into a parking lot, spend the night in RV, and use our own insurance for the tow, uber to rental, tow everything back and attempt the reimburse route.

It took over 6 months of back and forth, escalations, etc. to finally reach a reimbursement settlement.

Garbage warranty, garbage support, garbage customer service.

RAMCares = RAMSucks
 
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