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Worst Nightmare Already

The HOFF said:
2019 3500 shipped out last week hope to get it this week or next. Payload is 4900 and tow rating is 26000.
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Awesome. I hope your issue is finally resolved. I fought the overweight thing and gave up lol.. I now have almost the most towing capacity on the market today, almost.... not sure if it shows there but it is the 4.10 gear as well. Screenshot_20190826-223604_Chrome.jpg
 
The final payload won’t be anywhere near 4900. Not on your config. Closer to 3400. Unless you changed your mind and went with the dually.
 
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As we have said numerous times. The configurator is wrong. Although, it has been the closest with the 1 ton trucks. Even a tradesman is probably going to have more options than is factored in. But a tradesman 3500 is going to be the closest to those numbers. A Laramie or Limited is going to be off by a "few pounds".
 
DevilDodge said:
As we have said numerous times. The configurator is wrong. Although, it has been the closest with the 1 ton trucks. Even a tradesman is probably going to have more options than is factored in. But a tradesman 3500 is going to be the closest to those numbers. A Laramie or Limited is going to be off by a "few pounds".
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'A few' would be phrasing it politely...
 
see my sticker is accurate if i had 3.43 gearing, but mine has 3.73 gearing. this is how i know im definitely in the good for my fiver. 12K gross pin weight 1200 + hitch 200 = 1400 in the bed

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Not sure what you mean by 3.43 gearing.

On a side note. A guy won a suit against Ram for the false numbers(by configuration not end options).

So all the numbers are much more accurate...some, spot on.
 
DevilDodge said:
Not sure what you mean by 3.43 gearing.

On a side note. A guy won a suit against Ram for the false numbers(by configuration not end options).

So all the numbers are much more accurate...some, spot on.
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DevilDodge, where did you see that about a guy winning a suit against Ram? In December 2018 I bought a ‘19 Ram 1500 with “1840 lbs. payload”. We were upgrading to tow an Airstream with 1100 lbs. tongue weight. It was a dealer trade so we didn’t see the door sticker until after the deal was done & took delivery. It took until July to get the dealer/Ram to take the truck back. We’re now driving a ‘19 2500 with 2940 lbs. payload. *It cost us $$$$ but at least we finally got enough payload.

The salesperson told me Ram was looking at the configurator tool he used to find the Ram 1500. He was upset because he honestly did everything right (with the tools provided) and does commercial truck sales. I’m hoping they fix the problem so others don’t go through the same experience we did.

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foneguy said:
see my sticker is accurate if i had 3.43 gearing, but mine has 3.73 gearing. this is how i know im definitely in the good for my fiver. 12K gross pin weight 1200 + hitch 200 = 1400 in the bed

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Gearing doesn’t change payload capacity. Your payload capacity is your GVWR (10,000 lbs) minus the weight of your truck. The payload on the chart you posted is the highest possible payload with that engine.
 
Over on 5th Gen RAMs. Not sure if the guy ever became a member here or not.

@Dawn. Nope, atleast not with the same screen name.

The 1500s were horribly off. 2500s a little. 3500s not so much.

@Jeffmc306 if you still have that trucks VIN put it in and see if it changed.

That member had a 2500 diesel that was listed with the gas numbers.

I checked my own 2015. It charts for 3xxx and it now shows 2997. Almost exactly right.
 
jsalbre said:
Gearing doesn’t change payload capacity. Your payload capacity is your GVWR (10,000 lbs) minus the weight of your truck. The payload on the chart you posted is the highest possible payload with that engine.
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Gearing does change Gross Combined weight rating.

But on a 2500 diesel there is only one gear ratio for 2019...3.73

The gas truck has 3.73 and 4.10

A dually 3500 can also have 4.10

@jsalbre any updates to your full time life change?
 
5thgenrams.com

Payload discrepancy between door jamb sticker and RAM web site

A full tank of fuel is included in base weight. So you wouldn't subtract the fuel. 7100-1324=5776, your base weight. Real close to your guesstimate of 5718...maybe you lost some weight and didn't know it;)(actually the fact you didn't have a full tank of gas) And remember the website is for a...
5thgenrams.com 5thgenrams.com

@Jeffmc306 here is the link to his latest post
 
DevilDodge said:
Over on 5th Gen RAMs. Not sure if the guy ever became a member here or not.

@Dawn. Nope, atleast not with the same screen name.

The 1500s were horribly off. 2500s a little. 3500s not so much.

@Jeffmc306 if you still have that trucks VIN put it in and see if it changed.

That member had a 2500 diesel that was listed with the gas numbers.

I checked my own 2015. It charts for 3xxx and it now shows 2997. Almost exactly right.
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Thanks DevilDodge, I found the old VIN and you are correct - they fixed the system! It now displays the door sticker's 1220 lbs payload.
I fought with the dealer and RAM for 7 months to take the truck back. At the end, FCA offered the dealer "assistance" towards the buyback (it was a lease). According to the dealer, it wasn't enough to make them "whole". FCA stuck to their guns and refused to come up with more cash. The dealer came back and offered a deal where I would buy a 2500 (instead of a lease). It cost me more than I wanted but I was happy to get out from under the 3 year lease (with the wrong truck). I guess I should have gotten a lawyer like Dawn!
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Now, that amazes me, that they were able to get it right that quick.

So many people were bit by this. We spent so much time trying to explain this.

So glad to see it is fixed.

Sorry that you got screwed by this, but going forward, looks like it should be good.
 
DevilDodge said:
Now, that amazes me, that they were able to get it right that quick.

So many people were bit by this. We spent so much time trying to explain this.

So glad to see it is fixed.

Sorry that you got screwed by this, but going forward, looks like it should be good.
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Thanks! By the way, I shared the information on the AIrstream Forum and gave you props!

RAM Online Payload Lookup - FIXED - Airstream Forums

For anyone looking for a RAM trucks actual payload (door sticker) they finally fixed the online VIN lookup tool. Thanks to DevilDodge over on the HD RAM Forum for pointing this out. This is great for
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I was gonna say before Archer75 did, you're getting really close to max on that truck. I wouldn't be comfortable towing a trailer that heavy with your setup. Until my current truck, I had duallies even though my 5th wheel is only 16k. With the new 3500, an Aisin and 3.73s, I am comfortable with a SRW, but nothing less than that. As has been said, glad that you are good and it's being taken care of. Be careful

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DevilDodge said:
Gearing does change Gross Combined weight rating.

But on a 2500 diesel there is only one gear ratio for 2019...3.73

The gas truck has 3.73 and 4.10

A dually 3500 can also have 4.10

@jsalbre any updates to your full time life change?
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Oh yeah, definitely changes GCWR since the towing capacity can change.

Latest update: Picking up the new 2500 on Tuesday or Thursday and then I’ve gotta find the trailer!
 
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