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Will the mileage get better or is this what I should expect?
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All true, but you also recoup the initial investment of the diesel with resale value. So if you can swing the extra up front cost of the diesel, it’s nice to have the diesel even for the occasional heavy tower.
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I agree on the cost.
These days you don't buy a diesel to save money. You buy a diesel to have more than 2x the torque of the Hemi. You buy the diesel to not have to spin the motor to 4k rpm to pull a 1% grade. You buy a diesel to tow heavy. You buy a diesel to tow at altitude. You buy a diesel because...
Yeah. you get the point.
jeffawats
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just picked my truck up with the 35's and it doesnt feel any less powerful not to mention anything is better than the Transforce junk that came on it
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I hit 17.8 today. Best I've ever seen. But I only got to 70 or above for a very short time. Most was below 60. Total miles was about 75.
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Man did you even touch the gas pedal or was it 75 miles downhill at idle? Lol
The other big consideration is driving distance. I have a lot of short trips, often less than a mile, with a couple of hours between each trip. This is not ideal for a gas engine. It’s a death sentence for a diesel lol.
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I too have the 2022 Ram 2500 6.7 BH CCSB 4x4 and hand calculated 2 tanks in at about 600miles each tank averaging 19.98. Loving this Diesel. Thought about a PW with the 6.4 but wont tow what i need when i buy my LQ Horse trailer early next year.
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Ya my commute is 100 round trip 4 days a wk and 90% HWY so hoping thats enough to keep the dang DPF cleaned till i buy my trailer early next yr
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Ya like you said he is correct from a dollar to dollar calculations but you have to be fair when you sell said Diesel and Gas trucks at equal mileages and years old Diesel still wins in value and that for most people does mean something. Most people trade every what 2-4yrs Diesel will win that every time im only 36 yrs old owned 20+ and lost my a** a time or two on gas trucks over mileage penalties but ive NEVER lost with a single Diesel even had one i traded in with a code and had been wrecked and only kept it 5 months still broke even. Thatll never happen on a gasser.
But there is a use and purpose for both so obviously it still comes down to personal preference.
Id say the bigger arguement there is when diesel is 1.00-1.50 higher than gas pretty much accross the board even with the better mpg its almost a wash on that account. But at 12-15MPG gas vs 19+MPG on a Diesel you might save a couple bucks lol if your lucky.
Bottom line buy what you want drive what you want and be happy!
I drove both. I had a big-ass **** eating grin on my face after driving the Hemi. Not so much with the Cummins. They are very different engines. I needed a crew cab for the family and an 8 foot bed for the dirt bikes, and the ability to tow a 30', 8000 lb travel tailer. The Hemi works best for me. But I agree 100% on getting a diesel if you're towing heavy, and towing a lot.
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I'd agree and say you made the best choice given that trailer size.
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The % depreciation is damn near identical.
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Well, I’ve just crossed the 1000 mile mark with my 2022 2500 Limited Longhorn Hemi 6.4. The first 500 miles were break-in miles (100 below 55 mph and 3500 rpm, 100-300 <70 mph, 5000 rpm, 300-500 full range) then I was able to hitch the trailer - a 7000# Airstream (on the scales) and in the second 500 miles, 200 of that was towing. Note that the manual wants the first 500 towing miles to be at 50 mph which honestly isn’t safe. I have been doing 55 on the cruise control with tow haul engaged (manual wants it whenever towing) and have noticed it does go in to eco mode down some slopes but can whine at 3500 going up slight slopes…
Computer says full 1000 miles so far averaging 11.9 MPG and hand calculations for towing come in at 10.5.
My prior truck was a Duramax which averaged 13.5 towing, and never broke a sweat - up 6% grades at 1700 rpm….
It’s going to take a while to get used to this but basically, with 3 fewer MPG towing and 9 fewer gallons in the tank, the range is cut in half! And when I actually start towing this thing at 65-70 mph I’m sure the mileage will drop even further. How does RAM not know how to make this much more efficient??
Seems to ride really well - my theory on coils being better on the spinal arthritis than leaf springs was correct. But man - I wasn’t prepared for the pig-like gas consumption and much more limited range with the tiny gas tank….dang…..
I also really wish I understood that had I ordered the 8’ bed (instead of 6.4 with mega cab) I could have opted for a 50+ gallon tank. That would be great…
There are lots of pros - and unfortunately maybe just as many cons with this truck. I’m really going to have to figure out how to optimize it. Kind of lukewarm at this point….
Computer says full 1000 miles so far averaging 11.9 MPG and hand calculations for towing come in at 10.5.
My prior truck was a Duramax which averaged 13.5 towing, and never broke a sweat - up 6% grades at 1700 rpm….
It’s going to take a while to get used to this but basically, with 3 fewer MPG towing and 9 fewer gallons in the tank, the range is cut in half! And when I actually start towing this thing at 65-70 mph I’m sure the mileage will drop even further. How does RAM not know how to make this much more efficient??
Seems to ride really well - my theory on coils being better on the spinal arthritis than leaf springs was correct. But man - I wasn’t prepared for the pig-like gas consumption and much more limited range with the tiny gas tank….dang…..
I also really wish I understood that had I ordered the 8’ bed (instead of 6.4 with mega cab) I could have opted for a 50+ gallon tank. That would be great…
There are lots of pros - and unfortunately maybe just as many cons with this truck. I’m really going to have to figure out how to optimize it. Kind of lukewarm at this point….
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Good honest review. The cummins would be marginally better mpg while towing (not much) but the difference would be the ease with which it does the work while hitched up.
Your truck is very nice. Im sure it will be fine. Give her some time to break in.
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A bit unfair to compare a duramax to the hemi honestly, but from what I've heard, those are pretty average towing MPGs.
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I’m still new to this forum so may have misunderstood a few other threads I’ve read on gas tanks, but I didn’t think the 50 gallon was an option with a 6’4” bed and mega cab? I’ll have to keep digging. That would definitely be a huge help to alleviate range concerns on longer drives. Thanks.
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I’m not sure what was unfair…just commenting on my experience. Pros and cons as I said. I also wasn’t trying to compare the two as I’m well aware that diesel and gas systems are two very different animals. I was more using my experience with one vs the other as a point of reference - sorry I wasn’t clearer on that.
I debated over ordering the Cummins - its reputation is bulletproof and I’m sure it would handle my 7000# trailer with ease. Given the relatively light towing load, the amount of non-towing driving we do with the truck, and overall additional lifelong expense of a diesel system, I opted for gas. A mechanic friend and I were discussing this and his view is that the gas engine is designed to do exactly what it’s doing and it’s nothing to worry about. Of course - now I’m anticipating 5000+RPM on anything above a 9% grade and let’s just say that’s going to feel unsettling even if that’s exactly what it’s designed and built to do….
The Chevy only got 13.5 mpg towing anyway so it’s not like either “animal” gets high marks on fuel efficiency. If CSX trains can move one ton of weight 492 miles on one gallon of fuel, then truck manufacturers should be working on similar hybrids that can move a 7.5 ton rig 65.6 miles on one gallon of fuel. At that rate, a tiny 10 gallon tank would provide 656 miles of range. That wouldn’t suck!
I think the practical reality of tank RANGE being so limited is worth noting. A suggestion has been made that I might be able to swap in the 50 gallon tank and I will absolutely look in to that to address that concern. Even if I can only get 8 mpg towing at true highway speeds, at least that buys me more reasonable overall range.
First world problems no matter how you slice it for sure - just putting it out there.