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As I read this thread, it seems like lots of people talk in extremes. "end of life as we know it" is a good example.<br />
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I'm in the green energy industry, my company collects used cooking oil from restaurants, cleans it, and sells it to renewable energy plants that make either biodiesel or renewable diesel to blend into the heating oil or diesel markets. I also ran a hydropower some years ago, have installed solar on several commercial buildings.<br />
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I'm definitely an environmentalist and strongly in favor of green energy. But .... I thought I'd join the discussion because I don't think I'm a nutcase (though maybe I am, who knows <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ). I'm not in favor of simply ending various fossil fuels before we are prepared to do so. I even think some legacy coal plants need to keep running for some years, though I certainly wouldn't build any new ones. <b> I'm in favor of building nuke plants, to my mind if we want to move toward green energy and speed up the reduction of fossil fuel use, nuclear is the answer. 2 US plants are approved right now, one starting construction, and some older plants are getting a 2nd look at extending their useful life.</b><br />
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What I'm curious about for those on this thread who are opposed to green energy is this. Are you simply opposed to all green energy efforts, wind, solar, etc.? Or would you be ok with a blended solution like I'm thinking about?
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</blockquote>Thank you for commenting on here. I have a mutual friend in a similar field as you that has said the same thing about nuclear and I'm all for it. Another thing they mentioned is how hugely inefficient most "green" energy is and that they alone are not sustainable to support our needs, of today. I doubt anyone in here is against green energy but I won't speak for anyone but myself. I don't trust the information we are received from those who are supplying it cause it's always tied to an agenda, usually monetary, with little regard for opposing facts.<br />
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On the electric car subject ... it's not as simple as "we don't have the power or the grid capacity to charge them". Electric cars are another part of a good environmental solution, but it's more than that. They are incredibly low maintenance, and as they become more affordable will be a very good choice for those on a budget.<br />
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There is a pilot program in a couple of communities where families are signing up for a shared energy agreement. They agree to plug their cars in when not in use, and the program monitors demand and adds the electric car battery capacity to the grid at times it's needed. The result is the group enjoys lower electric rates because they charge at off peak times and contribute at peak times. For those concerned about discharging their cars the software lets you decide that, you can stop if your battery drops to 60% as an example, or set whatever parameters you want.
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</blockquote>On the EV side of things, the mining argument is the one you're going to hear more often than not. It's MORE than proven the harm that's done by mining for lithium, the amount of fuel that's burned daily to do it, and the lack of recycling for lithium batteries are on top of it all. Toyota actually has come out and said this EV movement is extremely wasteful, rather hybrid systems are far more sustainable. You can take ONE EV's battery and make 65 hybrid versions. Here's the article with the data...<br />
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<a href="https://www.thedrive.com/features/toyota-is-right-we-need-more-hybrid-cars-and-fewer-evs-heres-why" target="_blank" class="link link--external" data-proxy-href="/forum/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedrive.com%2Ffeatures%2Ftoyota-is-right-we-need-more-hybrid-cars-and-fewer-evs-heres-why&hash=7060b6322a9729582dbe283e033bbcf6" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.thedrive.com/features/toyota-is-right-we-need-more-hybrid-cars-and-fewer-evs-heres-why</a><br />
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What's more, EVs aren't the future and they're being produced so much that they are now sitting on dealers lots. Less maintenance does not mean they're more friendly to use, especially the ranges some of the EVs offer, it's downright awful when you can twice the distance from a hybrid car and avoid the hassle of a pure EV.</div>
