The Ford has the 6r140 6spd. It's an incredibly durable transmission but not geared as low as the zf 8spd. Not nearly as smooth either.
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Towing with new 6.4L
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I totally agree with you. These new 8 and 10 speeds are excellent. I've seen tests where the 3.73 vs 4.10 gear debate (which I concede favored the 4.10s previously) makes it a draw, or a slight advantage to the 3.73s.
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Bought this trailer this past weekend, primarily to haul our motorcycles, but I am sure that it will get used for a lot of other stuff. Yeah, I know that I don't need a 24 foot trailer for a couple of motorcycles, but it should be handy non the less. It weighs about 3,700 pounds empty, and it was about 150 miles away, so I had an opportunity to compare tow/haul mode to normal mode while pulling it. I set the cruise at 65mph, and had a few small hills to go over. As far as I can tell, the only difference between the two modes is that it runs a gear lower when in tow/haul.
In normal mode, on flat ground, it was staying in 7th, and 6th in tow/haul.
In normal mode, on flat ground, it was staying in 7th, and 6th in tow/haul.
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Rockcrawlindude
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Nice trailer.
just James
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Thanks.
It is a pretty basic trailer, but seems to be well built. It is an Interstate Victory.
Of course they use cheap off brand tires, and my only complaint so far is that they didn't even balance them. We could feel a little bit of vibration on the way home. I am going to pull the wheels off this weekend and get them balanced.
2022 Laramie Gasser with ZF trans and 373 gears did great with 10k trailer in mountains. Did not runaway you can just keep your foot off pedal and coast down mountain. You may need to get your foot in the pedal up the mountain but trans and eng temp were pretty good. Had 1500 lb hitch load and rake was perfect. Weight of HD is safer than 1500 and feels more confident but honestly the 5.7 with 393 gears was faster truck if you don't need payload or hitch load or tow alot a good option. K&N air filter gets loud and droning when towing since you need your foot in the gas most of the time in mountains. That was my only regret. Main need to go back to stock the extra 15hp not worth it.
15HP? LOL.
All you get is really, really bad filtering.
Squatch
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More money, more problems…
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I see your signature with a 3500 and a 6.4. I was looking online and that set up has about a ton of capacity and 18K in max load if I am not mistaken...
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Definitely go back to stock filter, as you see commented above for this application the K&N not only gives zero HP gain, it actually doesn't filter as well.
Totally agree the 2500 feels better towing. You want the truck to be in charge of the trailer, not vice versa.
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I think you were looking at 2500 PW specs, as the rest of the Hemi HD’s are all well above those ratings.
Rockcrawlindude
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My 2500 is similar tow to @Squatch but less payload as it’s not a 3500
Max tow 14,xxx
Max payload 3,2xx
I've not had any issues with lack of filtration with a K&N on my Wrangler. It's had one installed for 12 years now. UOA's with Blackstone never showed elevated levels of silica or cylinder/ring wear. And that Jeep lives in the dirt/rocks. Anyone that's been to Uwharrie knows how dusty/silty that place is when it's dry. Which was the main reason I bought the K&N as I was cleaning it nearly once a month. 150k miles on the engine, still runs perfect. YMMV
OT: my 2500 6.4 3.73 can tow 14,500 with a 3097 lb payload. Tows my 9000# travel trailer with ease. Been all over the east coast and through the mountains, no problem. And, yes, I know it's back there. It's 31' long. Anyone towing a 31' box will feel the wind moving it around. But it tracks straight, comes back to center on it's own and doesn't push the truck around. It was a nightmare with the 1500's I had.
OT: my 2500 6.4 3.73 can tow 14,500 with a 3097 lb payload. Tows my 9000# travel trailer with ease. Been all over the east coast and through the mountains, no problem. And, yes, I know it's back there. It's 31' long. Anyone towing a 31' box will feel the wind moving it around. But it tracks straight, comes back to center on it's own and doesn't push the truck around. It was a nightmare with the 1500's I had.
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I've used K&N's on several vehicles with good results, wasn't meaning to say they are a bad product. Like you I liked being able to clean it myself and re-install. But for some vehicles, and I believe our HD's fall into this category, the stock filter is not only good already but a better option than the K&N.
And I'm not sure how many engines actually fail, or experience premature wear, from sub-par air filtration. I'm guessing not many.
This was a cold air flow kit not just a paper filter inserted into stock set up filter case FYI they have Dyno records to prove it and supposedly does not viol;ate warranty. Regardless I may go back for drone sound when towing as It was a waste of money.15HP? LOL.
All you get is really, really bad filtering.
Poolmonkey
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That the gas truck pulled it at all shows how incredible it is, afaic.