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Too much oil and poor dealer help

mbarber84 said:
As much fuel as your bearings have seen, I doubt you need the extra “help”. Just find a brick.
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Yep. Dealership has not drained oil untill tech sees it. I will be amazed at this point if they try to repair it and try and play it off. FCA should be talking to the attorney general now and other people on my behalf. Should get closure soon.
 
Dinky503 said:
Yep. Dealership has not drained oil untill tech sees it. I will be amazed at this point if they try to repair it and try and play it off. FCA should be talking to the attorney general now and other people on my behalf. Should get closure soon.
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Hey at least we have alternate movement here. I’m even more intrigued on what they will find, if they even disclose it.
 
LegendaryLawman said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if the special tech gets you an authorization for a colonoscopy at this point
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Lmao they did call me for permission to drive my truck a few hundred miles to see how it is. Told the dealership only if he can get it to catch fire lmao. I'll have more updates by Friday I am sure.
 
Dinky503 said:
Lmao they did call me for permission to drive my truck a few hundred miles to see how it is. Told the dealership only if he can get it to catch fire lmao. I'll have more updates by Friday I am sure.
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The more miles they rack up the sooner the warranty is up…
 
Dinky503 said:
Yep. Dealership has not drained oil untill tech sees it. I will be amazed at this point if they try to repair it and try and play it off. FCA should be talking to the attorney general now and other people on my behalf. Should get closure soon.
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From now on, you should wear a pair of Walker's Razor Slim earmuffs when you're around your truck even at the dealership - just in case she blows. The Walker's allow you to hear speech, but immediately dampen explosions such as at a shooting range or when a truck engine reaches terminal velocity. They're quite effective. Hand a pair to the technician, too.
 
Get some of those spy cam glasses so you can record all the convos with the dealer for your impending lawsuit. Just keep it in a public place (no private offices) if your in a 2 party state for recording..
 
LegendaryLawman said:
Get some of those spy cam glasses so you can record all the convos with the dealer for your impending lawsuit. Just keep it in a public place (no private offices) if your in a 2 party state for recording..
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Dealership won't do that to me, I have a open complaint on them with the Attorney General....they are doing everything they can to not have that complaint stick. You can record in Oregon but can't use it in court unless the other party knows.
 
mbarber84 said:
I’m not exactly sure what specifically changed on the 2022+ truck. I’ve been told that the injectors are different (but have no proof of that), and I do know there are two different versions of the MAF floating around (Germany and China sourced) There have been a number of DPF’s with internal failures of various kinds. STAR sent out a follow up report to one of the techs (who then shared it with me) that lists several things to look at. I can’t remember if I already posted this here but will post again below for the sake of clarity. My truck worked flawlessly from January 2023 when I started documenting my regen cycles. Regenerations were all on the 24 hour timer, with minimal or no noticeable soot buildup on the dash gauge. Mileage was between 900-1000 miles between each regen. This behavior continued until June 2023. After which it spent the next five months (End of June to end of October) running regeneration cycles at half the previous time and mileage interval. Anywhere from 6-18 hours and roughly 200-500 miles between regens. Out of nowhere, the behavior rectified itself at the end of October 2023. At the time, I had just switched where I buy my fuel and also stopped using hotshots edt fuel additive. I had thought that this action was the driving factor behind the improvement in regen performance, however now I’m not so sure. The truck worked flawlessly from the end of October 2023 until about the end of March 2024. Again, all regens at the 24 hour mark and no noticeable soot accumulated on the DPF gauge. Starting in April 2024, I noticed a very sudden increase in soot loading, and a significant reduction in noticeable passive regeneration. Its important to note that, throughout the course of my documentation, the trucks’ duty cycles, speeds, routes, fuel source, operator, etc all remained identical. There were no significant outliers in how the truck was used, and save for a few isolated occasions, was operated almost exclusively on the highway, in an unloaded / non-towing scenario, while maintaining a speed of 75mph consistently as much as possible. As April began, I noticed soot would accumulate much faster, and would not passively regenerate out like it had previously done for the past 7 months. This behavior resulted in the regeneration cycles moving significantly closer together in both time and mileage. My next to last regeneration cycle was pushed out to the 24 hour mark only because I had a significant amount of heavy towing to do, and this use was what reduced the soot load enough to stretch the time interval out to the 24 hour mark. Had it not been for the towing, the regen cycle would have initiated at roughly 400-500 miles and about 12-14 engine hours. My most recent regeneration was at 502 miles and 14 hours, approximately half the interval that the truck had previously been able to achieve under the same style of operation for multiple months.

As of this writing, I am 90 miles since my most recent regeneration and is already showing 25% soot load on the in-dash DPF gauge. If this trend continues, I will be lucky to reach 200 miles this interval before the truck goes into regen again. It’s also important to note that I monitor my DPF gauge very closely and use that to anticipate when regen cycles will trigger. I typically adjust my driving so that the regen occurs on the highway will traveling at 70+ mph and I allow the cycle to complete 99% of the time. Typically takes about 20-30 minutes depending on soot load.

As of right now, i believe this issue may be related to the change in temperature and weather. My theory is that the MAF sensor may not be adapting sufficiently to environmental changes. This may be either because the MAF itself might be faulty, or my drive cycles are not providing sufficient time and data to make adaptation possible. I’m going to attempt the adaptation relearn procedure mentioned below in the coming days. If that is not successful I may attempt to buy the updated part number MAF and then perform the relearn again. As always I will report back. View attachment 72743View attachment 72744
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I read somewhere on a forum that there was a belief that there is an issue with a fuel seal on the CP3 when they moved back to it. This would coincide with the timing of the '22 model year. However, I haven't heard it mentioned again and I can't find where I saw it. I have been totally frustrated with these regens as well. I feel like there was some downstream impact of the air filters (or the system was already fragile). I am waiting on a new CCV filter to see if that is potentially soaked in oil currently and needs to be replaced. One weird thing I have noticed with the DPF load (monitoring through OBD Fusion) is that when I go above 60mph is when it really starts to jump in soot load calculated. This leads me back to the thought that it has something to do with air movement, but what do I know. I have also noticed strange difference in extreme cold vs normal air temps, but I also live at altitude so I don't know if that is a factor as well. So frustrating that this truck has this issue.
 
TomTom said:
I read somewhere on a forum that there was a belief that there is an issue with a fuel seal on the CP3 when they moved back to it. This would coincide with the timing of the '22 model year. However, I haven't heard it mentioned again and I can't find where I saw it. I have been totally frustrated with these regens as well. I feel like there was some downstream impact of the air filters (or the system was already fragile). I am waiting on a new CCV filter to see if that is potentially soaked in oil currently and needs to be replaced. One weird thing I have noticed with the DPF load (monitoring through OBD Fusion) is that when I go above 60mph is when it really starts to jump in soot load calculated. This leads me back to the thought that it has something to do with air movement, but what do I know. I have also noticed strange difference in extreme cold vs normal air temps, but I also live at altitude so I don't know if that is a factor as well. So frustrating that this truck has this issue.
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Ive seen a couple case of the CP3 pump leak, and Ram seems to know about that one as well. My 3rd trip in they did a leak test on the pump and they wanted to do it again.
 
Well I picked up my truck from the dealership for the 4th time. Ram master tech only found where the exhaust leak was coming from and it was improper DPF clamp installed. leaking before the DPF and found the air filter was a mopar filter but too much glue causing the air restriction......... I have not heard the clanking sound but it is on a fresh oil change 10w40 but i do have excessive vibration still. Ram care did do a follow up call and i told them they should be embarrassed for the level of customer service and workmanship. The Master tech should not let the truck leave with a vibration like than and once again they let me leave with oil over safe operating level. Ram care is looking into the matter and going to look for another dealership to give a second opinion.

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Dinky503 said:
Well I picked up my truck from the dealership for the 4th time. Ram master tech only found where the exhaust leak was coming from and it was improper DPF clamp installed. leaking before the DPF and found the air filter was a mopar filter but too much glue causing the air restriction......... I have not heard the clanking sound but it is on a fresh oil change 10w40 but i do have excessive vibration still. Ram care did do a follow up call and i told them they should be embarrassed for the level of customer service and workmanship. The Master tech should not let the truck leave with a vibration like than and once again they let me leave with oil over safe operating level. Ram care is looking into the matter and going to look for another dealership to give a second opinion.

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That’s nuts. I started typing I can’t believe it but, I do. Wild.
 
They say it's fixed, the miles were not open road condition just through town normal stop lights but still I'll hit a regen tomorrow. First photo is dealership pick up.....

I tried to get vibrations on video but it's hard to capture.




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Dinky503 said:
They say it's fixed, the miles were not open road condition just through town normal stop lights but still I'll hit a regen tomorrow. First photo is dealership pick up.....

I tried to get vibrations on video but it's hard to capture.




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Hey, 12 miles and at regen levels already? Nah, that’s normal. Glad they fixed it!:rolleyes:
 
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