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Regens at alarming rate!

It appears you have tunnel vision -

Here's a guy whose truck throws the code with only 6200 miles with factory air + fuel filters
I’ve said time and time again, that the air filter isn’t always the cause, but it’s the first thing to eliminate. Along with any other easy things to try like fuel filters. I fully admitted in my initial response that it might be something else causing the issue.

You do realize you’re talking to the guy who, on his own free time, took it upon himself to create a spreadsheet and a public questionnaire regarding the regeneration frequency issue right? In an attempt to gather more data about these failures and issues in the hopes that a trend, and ultimately a fix could be found?

DPF’s themselves rarely fail. 99% of the time, the issue is upstream. Either on the engine, or in the software and monitoring architecture that controls the emissions system. What I can tell you is, more often than not, when a dealership replaces a DPF for P2459, that truck will ultimately end up back at the shop demonstrating the same issues because they weren’t adequately diagnosed and corrected initially. You’re free to do whatever your little heart desires, but I can almost guarantee you that the DPF itself is not the issue at hand with your vehicle.

What I absolutely, unequivocally can guarantee, is that everyone at that dealership was thankful when you walked out the door.
 
My dealer replaced my catalytic converter as well. Did not fix the issue or really improve it at all honestly.

I'm still waiting to get my truck back with the new injectors. Dealership has 3 of them and hopefully the other 3 come in today. Already had to cancel part of our camping trip as the truck was supposed to be fixed a week ago.
So after new injectors, DPF, catalaysts and exhaust gaskets, still no fix on my truck. The new injectors seem to help, but truck was regenning alot (maybe less than before) and yesterday got the CEL again when a regen started. Back to the dealer.
 
So after new injectors, DPF, catalaysts and exhaust gaskets, still no fix on my truck. The new injectors seem to help, but truck was regenning alot (maybe less than before) and yesterday got the CEL again when a regen started. Back to the dealer.
Well, potentially some good news for us all. Spoke to my dealer and was told Ram has a fix in the works for this. This dealier has about 10 of us with the same issue, so maybe they know something. Other than that, they told me to bring it it, check to make sure the CEL is for frerquent regen but there really wasnt anything for them to do. They dont know how to fix it.
 
Well, potentially some good news for us all. Spoke to my dealer and was told Ram has a fix in the works for this. This dealier has about 10 of us with the same issue, so maybe they know something. Other than that, they told me to bring it it, check to make sure the CEL is for frerquent regen but there really wasnt anything for them to do. They dont know how to fix it.
Keep us posted with any updates you happen to get or see. Thanks
I’m not really having too frequent regens yet. Mine regens every 12-14 hours but I think it’s because of the drive cycle for it. Last regen I drove it an additional 30 miles or so before stopping and we’ll see how that goes. It’s about 20 miles one way to town, some in town stop and go and 20 miles highway back. I’ve started running the interstate more also. Got a 200 mile camping trip planned weekend after next so the towing should help clean it out some.
 
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So here’s a good example. Just documented my most recent regeneration. Gauge hit the 50% full trigger and the cycle started at 11:03am on the interstate running 70-75mph consistently. This was a soot load commanded cycle. Allowed the truck to continue the cycle and maintained speed. Finished at 11:26am. So 23 minutes start to finish. Gauge reading 0% upon completion. Drove a few more minutes on the interstate and reached my work, parked the truck. Got back in it to drive home. At about 3:48pm I glanced down at the gauge and it was reading half way between empty and the 25% full mark. Happened to note the mileage at that moment. A total of exactly 40 miles had been clocked between when the last regen cycle finished, and when the 12.5% reading was noted. 100% of that 40 miles was highway driving at 70 mph. That cannot be correct. There is no way the truck generated that much slot in 40 miles running the interstate at speed. View attachment 61823View attachment 61824View attachment 61825
 
Mbarber84 - I had more or less the exact same experience. I put a spreadsheet together over about a 1000 miles that had DPF loads bouncing all over the place (up and down perhaps 20 times) with only two regens. After a little back and forth with the dealer, the tech found a service bulletin that required a computer update and it's now showing steady zero load. If you need more info, please let me know.
 
Mbarber84 - I had more or less the exact same experience. I put a spreadsheet together over about a 1000 miles that had DPF loads bouncing all over the place (up and down perhaps 20 times) with only two regens. After a little back and forth with the dealer, the tech found a service bulletin that required a computer update and it's now showing steady zero load. If you need more info, please let me know.
Any idea what TSB that was?
 

Also Posted in 6.7 Engine Air Filter Confusion​

This has been an interesting topic to be reading about and be dealing with as well! My 2019 came with the CP4.2 fuel pump and as we all know there were issues and eventually a recall. Now, the whole time with the CP4.2 pump I had no issues, and the truck ran great, regens weren't an issue. When my first oil change at 15,000 (08/11/21) came around I ordered all the OEM filters and Rotella T6 5-40 oil, and the dealer sent me the AA filter. I can't say which air filter was originally there, just replaced with what they sent me. After the service, again no issues of any kind, regens were at the 24-hour driving time. Second oil change (01/10/23) so ordered the OEM filters and again was sent another AA air filter, no issues. On 04/25/23 I was finally able to get the fuel pump recall to the CP3.3 pump completed. Then the Star Parts notice came out changing the air filter application, so I ordered up the AB air filter and installed it. For the last couple months, I've had two early regens less than 500 miles, two days ago a normal DPF 99/100% and 23/24 hours driving time. So, I'm thinking of installing the AA filter again and see what happens! Something that hasn't been mentioned or I missed, is anyone still running the CP4.2 pump with whichever air filter having this regen issue or is it just with the CP3.3 upgraded pump and software?
 

Also Posted in 6.7 Engine Air Filter Confusion​

This has been an interesting topic to be reading about and be dealing with as well! My 2019 came with the CP4.2 fuel pump and as we all know there were issues and eventually a recall. Now, the whole time with the CP4.2 pump I had no issues, and the truck ran great, regens weren't an issue. When my first oil change at 15,000 (08/11/21) came around I ordered all the OEM filters and Rotella T6 5-40 oil, and the dealer sent me the AA filter. I can't say which air filter was originally there, just replaced with what they sent me. After the service, again no issues of any kind, regens were at the 24-hour driving time. Second oil change (01/10/23) so ordered the OEM filters and again was sent another AA air filter, no issues. On 04/25/23 I was finally able to get the fuel pump recall to the CP3.3 pump completed. Then the Star Parts notice came out changing the air filter application, so I ordered up the AB air filter and installed it. For the last couple months, I've had two early regens less than 500 miles, two days ago a normal DPF 99/100% and 23/24 hours driving time. So, I'm thinking of installing the AA filter again and see what happens! Something that hasn't been mentioned or I missed, is anyone still running the CP4.2 pump with whichever air filter having this regen issue or is it just with the CP3.3 upgraded pump and software?
I have a 2019 with the recall complete. I have been running the “AA” filter for 7k miles with nothing other than 24hr “scheduled” regens.
 

Also Posted in 6.7 Engine Air Filter Confusion​

This has been an interesting topic to be reading about and be dealing with as well! My 2019 came with the CP4.2 fuel pump and as we all know there were issues and eventually a recall. Now, the whole time with the CP4.2 pump I had no issues, and the truck ran great, regens weren't an issue. When my first oil change at 15,000 (08/11/21) came around I ordered all the OEM filters and Rotella T6 5-40 oil, and the dealer sent me the AA filter. I can't say which air filter was originally there, just replaced with what they sent me. After the service, again no issues of any kind, regens were at the 24-hour driving time. Second oil change (01/10/23) so ordered the OEM filters and again was sent another AA air filter, no issues. On 04/25/23 I was finally able to get the fuel pump recall to the CP3.3 pump completed. Then the Star Parts notice came out changing the air filter application, so I ordered up the AB air filter and installed it. For the last couple months, I've had two early regens less than 500 miles, two days ago a normal DPF 99/100% and 23/24 hours driving time. So, I'm thinking of installing the AA filter again and see what happens! Something that hasn't been mentioned or I missed, is anyone still running the CP4.2 pump with whichever air filter having this regen issue or is it just with the CP3.3 upgraded pump and software?
That’s what I have been thinking. It has to be in the programming in the ECM. Whether it’s a glitch in the system or deliberately programmed in there for emissions or whatever reason, it needs to be figured out. There’s been people on here who have had the whole exhaust system replaced with zero effect on the problem. And the air filter confusion thing on the same vehicle, just a different year, points to different programming. Either for emissions or longevity of the vehicle. Think Green
 
That’s what I have been thinking. It has to be in the programming in the ECM. Whether it’s a glitch in the system or deliberately programmed in there for emissions or whatever reason, it needs to be figured out. There’s been people on here who have had the whole exhaust system replaced with zero effect on the problem.
Yeah, I'm not sure anyone has actually had this solved?
 
Well, potentially some good news for us all. Spoke to my dealer and was told Ram has a fix in the works for this. This dealier has about 10 of us with the same issue, so maybe they know something. Other than that, they told me to bring it it, check to make sure the CEL is for frerquent regen but there really wasnt anything for them to do. They dont know how to fix it.
Would be nice if we could get some info on what that fix actually is. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve had a service advisor tell me “they have a fix in the works”…….you know…..

I do know for a fact that Ram is actively investigating the regen frequency issue because it has been coming up repeatedly at dealers nationwide. Especially the 2022’s and now 2023’s. 70% of the trucks experiencing frequent regeneration that I’m collecting data for are 2022’s.
 
Mbarber84 - I had more or less the exact same experience. I put a spreadsheet together over about a 1000 miles that had DPF loads bouncing all over the place (up and down perhaps 20 times) with only two regens. After a little back and forth with the dealer, the tech found a service bulletin that required a computer update and it's now showing steady zero load. If you need more info, please let me know.
Yes please!

Can you get me some info on what updates / service bulletin you’re referring to? Should have a number attached to it.
 
That’s what I have been thinking. It has to be in the programming in the ECM. Whether it’s a glitch in the system or deliberately programmed in there for emissions or whatever reason, it needs to be figured out. There’s been people on here who have had the whole exhaust system replaced with zero effect on the problem. And the air filter confusion thing on the same vehicle, just a different year, points to different programming. Either for emissions or longevity of the vehicle. Think Green
My belief has been and will continue to be either a software / tuning issue, or a series of flawed or poorly manufactured / assembled components. Several of these frequent regeneration trucks have less than 500 miles on them when they start to show signs and symptoms.
 
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