Rebel GVWR

[jenninr]

I searched but haven't found what I am looking for. Can anyone that has a Ram 2500 Rebel confirm the GVWR and GCWR? The build and price site says the GVWR is 10,000 lbs but I am looking at 2023 trucks for sale online and the payload and towing are much lower than a similarly equipped Laramie. I found a post that suggested it would be 9680 lbs but that was pre-release. If the GVWR is lower does anyone know why? It appears that the only difference is the rear locker and it doesn't seem like that would be a limiting factor on GVWR; I could see that affecting GCWR.

I was planning on buying a 22 Ram 3500 SRW but it's been in the shop for 2 months trying to fix an issue with the power mirrors and I'm thinking it might be a lemon so the rebate on the leftover 2023's has me looking at them and there just aren't many 23 3500s out there that dealers are discounting much on top of the 10% rebate.

 

[4FishLimit]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure all 2500s have a 10K GVWR.

The primary reason for the super low payload on Power Wagons is due to the suspension. It’s meant to be soft and flexy for off-road use, which opposite of what you want when towing.

 

[dmhines]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure all 2500s have a 10K GVWR.

The primary reason for the super low payload on Power Wagons is due to the suspension. It’s meant to be soft and flexy for off-road use, which opposite of what you want when towing.

Actually the primary reason is due to the Duratrac tires used on the Power Wagon.. they have a load range of only 3195 lbs instead of the normal 3640 lbs used on all other 2500's - then the softer springs make up the rest of the GVWR difference. The Rebel is based on the Standard 2500 platform not a Power Wagon and has 10K GVWR ...

 

[AH64ID]

The diesel rebel does have a GVWR of 9,680. Not sure why. It has a higher FAWR and lower RAWR than the gas version.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/chryslermedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/specs/2024_RAM_2500_3500_HD_Towing.pdf

Actually the primary reason is due to the Duratrac tires used on the Power Wagon.. they have a load range of only 3195 lbs instead of the normal 3640 lbs used on all other 2500's - then the softer springs make up the rest of the GVWR difference. The Rebel is based on the Standard 2500 platform not a Power Wagon and has 10K GVWR ...

Not true at all. The 3195lb tires meet every configuration of 2500’s RAWR, which tops out at 6,390. The base 2500 tire is a LT245/75R17, which also has a 3,195lb load rating.

In all cases FAWR+RAWR exceeds GVWR, so tires and axles aren’t the limit.

 

[UglyViking]

The diesel rebel does have a GVWR of 9,680. Not sure why. It has a higher FAWR and lower RAWR than the gas version.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/chryslermedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/specs/2024_RAM_2500_3500_HD_Towing.pdf

Had to look at this myself because I didn't believe you. I don't understand how the rear axle rating on the cummins equipped rebel is lower than that of the standard hemi power wagon. It's also 350lbs lower than the hemi equipped rebel. How? They use the same axle, and I'd assume the same rear coils? Even the two different axle ratios on the hemi equipped rebel are the same, but the cummins is lower?

Is the hemi rebel using the same rear axle from the power wagon? if so, why is it not the same rating? God, so many questions here.

 

[jenninr]

The diesel rebel does have a GVWR of 9,680. Not sure why. It has a higher FAWR and lower RAWR than the gas version.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/chryslermedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/specs/2024_RAM_2500_3500_HD_Towing.pdf

Not true at all. The 3195lb tires meet every configuration of 2500’s RAWR, which tops out at 6,390. The base 2500 tire is a LT245/75R17, which also has a 3,195lb load rating.

In all cases FAWR+RAWR exceeds GVWR, so tires and axles aren’t the limit.

Thanks for confirming what I am seeing. It is odd that the diesel rebel has a lower GVWR and rear axel rating.

 

[AH64ID]

I am going to *guess* that the lower rating deals with torque and the locker limitations, nothing else makes sense.