Rear Bumper

[jetrinka]

Curious if anyone knows what a short box w/RamBoxes weighs in at? I may also explore flat bed/box tray alternatives.

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

Curious if anyone knows what a short box w/RamBoxes weighs in at? I may also explore flat bed/box tray alternatives.

GVWR - payload will give you a naked truck weight but it adds up quick.
My truck should be 6880 (10k-3120payload) but apparently the topper, steps, winch, bumper, decked, tools, recovery gear and three assorted humans added up to around 1400lb a good chunk of payload.

 

[jetrinka]

GVWR - payload will give you a naked truck weight but it adds up quick.
My truck should be 6880 (10k-3120payload) but apparently the topper, steps, winch, bumper, decked, tools, recovery gear and three assorted humans added up to around 1400lb a good chunk of payload.

Yeah thats why I'm curious what the stock bed comes in at. I know RamBoxes add some weight to an otherwise stock bed. Not wanting to go much heavier than what is there if I can help it. Not looking at huge flatbeds - keeping it tame.

 

[jetrinka]

GVWR - payload will give you a naked truck weight but it adds up quick.
My truck should be 6880 (10k-3120payload) but apparently the topper, steps, winch, bumper, decked, tools, recovery gear and three assorted humans added up to around 1400lb a good chunk of payload.

I've thought the flatbed thing through a little more and decided it would be ultra stupid on a PW. Not only are they heavier (not good for a PW) most of them extend out over the wheels in a flat plate with the top of the frame. Not good for any kind of axle articulation off road where you need that up travel.

 

[Redfour5]

Welp she got hit today. Was parked and my wife and I were putting our 5 month old son in his carseat in the back of the truck and all the sudden heard/felt a loud noise/jolt in the truck. Looked back in time to see a Isuzu NRR (paper shredding company truck) had cut too close behind the truck trying to get into an open area on the side of the street and clipped the drivers rear corner bad. The guy had stopped. I called the police and filed a report and here we are.

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So here we go. Amazingly all the lighting still works. Doesn't appear to be any real structural damage other than the brackets supporting the rear bumper. Its going to be roughly 2-3 months before the body shop can get to it and its driveable.

Wondering what people have used for aftermarket rear bumpers? The body shop says if I wanted to upgrade they could purchase whatever I want and if its more expensive than an OEM bumper I could cover the difference which I think is fair. Just seeing what people have and what they like/dislike.

Count your blessings as well. My wife was actually walking to the back of the truck when it got hit. We had just changed our sons diaper and she was taking it to go find a garbage can while I got him strapped in. The guy in the Isuzu clearly was going too fast and probably wouldn't have seen her either. I thank God she wasn't even a couple feet farther or she probably would have been taken out too. Trucks are replaceable. Your loved ones aren't.

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I highly recommend the Rough Country rear bumper.

I think I paid 550 for mine. I have the Billet Silver also. My after market installer professional "Auto Concepts" Helena MT recommended it after I was looking at a 1200 buck different brand. He then pointed it out on his personal truck. He said for the money it cannot be beat including the lights on the back that are REALLY noticable at night backing up. He said, they are Chinese made and that the powder coating may not be equal to like a Fab Four, but even if you had to re-finish it in three years, you would still come in ahead of another brand financially... He said they are well built and quality. I got a fab four matrix front bumper I really love but saved some serious bucks and it looks great... I'm now like five months in on it and no rust etc. Oh, and you might be surprised on some rear bumpers and pricing vs OEM. I had the same deal you do with me paying the difference if it costs more on my old 1500. Since the bumpers on Ram Trucks will ding if you look at them hard, I went with a Ranchhand rear bumper on my 1500. Went in to pick it up and the autobody shop gave me a check for that as the OEM was 75 bucks MORE than the Ranchhand rear bumper. Now this was like 2018, but just so you know. This isn't out of the norm.

As for the weight of the Ram Boxes, it is relatively inconsequential on a 2500. I believe it added around 125 lbs total on my old 1500 where every little bit of weight hurts on payload. I miss my Ram Boxes originally I was ambivalent about them but after having them, I loved them. AND, sun roofs whack your payload also... They weigh in around 125 lbs also. I also miss the utility bed accessories including spray in bedliner on the Ram boxes set up. It's not just the boxes adding weight. The spray in liner weighs quite a bit along with the rack stuff and the underbed step which weighs about 10 plus lbs by itself. I went and bought an after market underbed step for like 270 bucks on Amazon that even uses the RAM OEM instructions it is such an exact copy. Took me 30 minutes and two wrenches to put on... Those are essential for a 2500 imho.

 

[Redfour5]

Yeah thats why I'm curious what the stock bed comes in at. I know RamBoxes add some weight to an otherwise stock bed. Not wanting to go much heavier than what is there if I can help it. Not looking at huge flatbeds - keeping it tame.

Power Wagons suck for payload and is why I decided not to go there, as I was only picking up a few hundred lbs vs my 1500, but per videos of people towing with them, and their comments, it seems the PW payloads are somewhat misleading in a sense. The difference between a decent after market rear bumper and an OEM is likely in the 60 70 lb range per my own research back with my 1500 here a few years ago. That's all steel vs the thin "pot metal" of an OEM bumper.

 

[Wanderlust073]

Still trying to get my head around ‘2-3 months’ for the body shop work. They still paying people to sit around, smoke dope and hate on cops up there or something?

 

[Redfour5]

Still trying to get my head around ‘2-3 months’ for the body shop work. They still paying people to sit around, smoke dope and hate on cops up there or something?

I was reading the sentence and thought weeks now I'm like you... WTF?

 

[jetrinka]

Power Wagons suck for payload and is why I decided not to go there, as I was only picking up a few hundred lbs vs my 1500, but per videos of people towing with them, and their comments, it seems the PW payloads are somewhat misleading in a sense. The difference between a decent after market rear bumper and an OEM is likely in the 60 70 lb range per my own research back with my 1500 here a few years ago. That's all steel vs the thin "pot metal" of an OEM bumper.

Yep I'm always aware of the weight of things with the PW. And yes the weights are misleading IMO - although the radius arms are not as large and the springs are softer - but you still have ample axle weights. I still like to be careful.

The repair date is Jan 15th LOL Oh well.

I think I've decided to just have it fixed back to stock. I can't really see the need for an aftermarket bumper at this point - especially since it adds about 60-90 lbs depending on which one.

 

[44Dan44]

The repair date is Jan 15th LOL Oh well.

Insane.

 

[Rockcrawlindude]

Why do you have to wait until January? Can you not choose the shop that does the insurance work? Here we can, by law. Also we’re entitled to diminished value compensation.

 

[jetrinka]

Why do you have to wait until January? Can you not choose the shop that does the insurance work? Here we can, by law. Also we’re entitled to diminished value compensation.

That is the shop I’ve chosen. They’re the best one around and really the only small mom/pop place. I’d rather wait and not go to the giant corporate ones that don’t care about you or their product