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Ram 2500 brakes

With all of this, have you ever bothered to look at the hydraulic parts of the system, including the PS pump, fluid, lines, hydroboost, etc?
This is a 6.4 l hemi 2500 HD. So no I don't have any of those components. I have fully and completely inspected the entire braking system. There's a lot of rubber lines a lot more than there used to be on older vehicles but the truck has 40,000 miles on it so I can't see that these lines are the culprit.
When I first took it to the dealership we thought it had air in it so they ABS bled it because I bled it and didn't get any air. They ABS bled actuated the valves it felt better until they shut the truck off. When they shut the truck off it all reverted right back to the way it was so it's not air. I've bled this system more times and I cared even admit. Including ABS bleeding it after I bought the scan tool. So I took it to a different dealer because they won't let me tow with a loaner vehicle. I explained the issue they went straight to replacing the ABS module. I don't even think that they did any real diag on it. The pedal was okay for the first four or five hours after the repair and then it reverted right back to doing what it's doing.

The service manager over there said he was going to do some digging and I gave him the name of this forum for him to research and then reach out to whoever because he was tossing around the idea that it could be an electrical issue. Which now I'm a firm believer of because of what I've already explained and they have known issues with the tipm.

At this point I'm at my wit's end and if the dealership can't fix it or they can't find it without having to keep my truck for a month or more I'm just going to wind up trading it. But to answer your question more directly yes after the hcu was replaced the master technician said that the master cylinder was the next thing on the list. I'm not really sure what list he's operating off of as there should have been some actual diagnosing going on. Rather that is looking at sensor data or using plugs to block off each hydraulic line until you get rid of this feel issue.
That is the one thing I have not done.
I noticed that the rear pads were spaced off of the rear rotors quite a bit so I had already ordered some rear calipers and they were not cheap. It did temporarily fix the issue when I collapse those calipers which in my mind I'm visualizing forcing the hydraulic fluid in the opposite direction which may have unstuck a sticky valve or something similar.
I was able to get it to do that same thing with the fronts. So we changed the master cylinder here with a buddy of mine and I put new rear calipers on it. The only thing the master cylinder fixed was the truck no longer feels like it's stopping with all fronts. It's more equally distributed but it definitely did not fix this excessively inconsistent pedal. I mean I'm literally driving it right now and every time I touch it it's doing something different and I'm not driving it any different and I'm hauling a 10,000 lb trailer. Every time I touch the brakes there's excessive travel and the trailer is being told to break hard because the truck thinks I'm breaking hard but in reality I have to go halfway down the pedal before I even get any hydraulic pressure so that's not normally either.

What the other guy said I'm half tempted to go pull that ABS fuse just to see if I can get a different feel. With the erratic sensor data taking the power away from it the valving won't maintain that pressure it'll default to something else that it's designed to default to when there's an issue with the system. But that's not a solution either and definitely should not have to pull fuses in order to make my brakes feel better.
 
Speech to text. Lol.

The pedal firms up like it should with the truck off. There is a little bit of movement after you discharge the vacuum but it's pretty firm.
Service manager just called me back told me it sounds like radio frequency interference. He said there could be a multiple things that could cause that so he told me what I could do to see if that's what it is.
 
Adjust your tin foil hat :p
Well it worked using aluminum foil to wrap the ABS module as a faraday cage stabilized that pressure sensor fluctuation and brakes return back to the way they're supposed to feel which means it's electromagnetic interference and now they just need to figure out what's causing it could be a multitude of things
 
Well it worked using aluminum foil to wrap the ABS module as a faraday cage stabilized that pressure sensor fluctuation and brakes return back to the way they're supposed to feel which means it's electromagnetic interference and now they just need to figure out what's causing it could be a multitude of things
Check your flux capacitor it should be operating nominally at 1.21 jigawatts
 
Ok, I think we've figured it out. This guy is just a troll using AI to write rambling incoherent things.
 
Ok, I think we've figured it out. This guy is just a troll using AI to write rambling incoherent things.
Yeah I can assure you I am not a troll. I have much better things to do with my life. It's normal for people with lower IQs to make fun of those that have higher ones. The fact of the matter is a faulty tipm, actuating solenoids and even the coils can create electromagnetic interference. Aftermarket LED lights or any other accessories as well. Blocking that interference temporarily with something like a faraday cage stopped the fluctuation and immediately brought the pedal back.
Crazy thing is if I showed credentials that I was a Master tech and I diagnosed this issue none of you would be questioning it. I don't need ASE status or a Chrysler Master tech patch to understand a system and ask for help in diagnosing it. Obviously I'm in the wrong place this is clearly no different than any other social media platform. Full of children.
 
I would absolutely question you no matter what credentials you showed us. Just like I'd question any tech at a dealership that said RF interference was causing issues with your brakes, or that unplugging a battery could improve your brake feel.

None of the children in the forum have posted on this thread, just a handful of the more knowledgable people, more than one of whom actually have a background in RF engineering.

Faulty TIPMs are not a common issue on gen 4.5 HDs. Even if they were, you wouldn't get RF interference from them.

Wrapping something in aluminum foil as a sort-of faraday cage would only work if you enclosed the item completely, and if it wasn't connected by metal to whatever device was generating the RF. If you think it's something on the truck then it's effectively electrically connected directly to the device you think you're shielding.
 
I would absolutely question you no matter what credentials you showed us. Just like I'd question any tech at a dealership that said RF interference was causing issues with your brakes, or that unplugging a battery could improve your brake feel.

None of the children in the forum have posted on this thread, just a handful of the more knowledgable people, more than one of whom actually have a background in RF engineering.

Faulty TIPMs are not a common issue on gen 4.5 HDs. Even if they were, you wouldn't get RF interference from them.

Wrapping something in aluminum foil as a sort-of faraday cage would only work if you enclosed the item completely, and if it wasn't connected by metal to whatever device was generating the RF. If you think it's something on the truck then it's effectively electrically connected directly to the device you think you're shieldin
 
With only about 100 miles on my new 2024 Ram 2500 CC 4WD Hemi, I installed Power Stop Z36 pads to grab my OEM rotors and have been pleased with the results, towing up to 13K trailer weight and non-towing, using the OEM brake lines, etc.
 
Incorrect the reason why it stabilizes because the connection was restored. These systems are just as much electronic as they are hydraulic. What I did was no different than when it rains. Which is how I figured out how to duplicate this issue. Matter of fact the water is what makes the brakes feel like they're supposed to. Which points to an electronic issue. Your previous reply and so many contradictions in it. I'll have you know that the private shops that I have spoke to about this I've told me how spot on I am. I may not have the answer but I'm going down the correct road and that's why I said the dealership is going to be responsible for the rest. I've essentially done their job for them. Spraying a little water on a connector is not going to damage the system.
Matt - have you checked the vacuum sensor? One of the other irregularities I've noticed is that IF I MOVE QUICK from gas to brake, like a panic stop, the pedal seems firmer than if I take my time and brake casually....just curious...
 
Matt - have you checked the vacuum sensor? One of the other irregularities I've noticed is that IF I MOVE QUICK from gas to brake, like a panic stop, the pedal seems firmer than if I take my time and brake casually....just curious...
The system detects a potential panic stop if you remove your foot from the gas pedal quickly and the ABS pump pre-fills the brakes to reduce stopping time.
 
Mine's a 23. They don't necessarily have to be aluminum to get hung up but it's definitely more likely given the non-ferrous metals. It's still worth a look. I think the 2021's and up are going to be aluminum.
My Ram is a 2021, and I'm having the same problem everyone is describing. I had my back tires off and inspected the rotors and pads visually, and found plenty of material left on the pads, so we didn't try collapsing the calipers. What was the wear state on your pads with the caliper issue? Were the pads shot?
 
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