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Price negotiated from MSRP

Bryamill said:
I posted this same question in the build forum, so sorry for the duplicate. I ordered back in early January, and my truck just shipped. When negotiating, I was basically told that the FWP price was about as low as they could negotiate on an order and I would get any current incentives when it arrived. I've seen a few post to make me believe that they could have absolutely come off of the price more than FWP. What are you guys seeing when ordering? My issue is that the dealer is a "friend" of mine I am a trusting guy. I would like to know what is normal when I go in to pick the truck up.
I ordered a 2500 Laramie diesel at 6.4% below invoice - little negotiating and no dealer junk fees - but had to go to a high volume dealer to get that. Of the 15 dealers or so i contacted only Mark Dodge and Bud Clary (Philip Olson) in Seattle were able to better my tread lightly coupon at 1% below invoice. All other dealers told me there was no way they could even get close to 6% below invoice and some said it was too good to be true. So, as others have stated, I think some dealers have different business and profit models - and therefore have different floors below which they will let a deal walk.
For me, it was worth the fly and drive option to get that desk. For others, time is money, and are satisfied with less of a deal. To each there own
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Bryamill said:
I posted this same question in the build forum, so sorry for the duplicate. I ordered back in early January, and my truck just shipped. When negotiating, I was basically told that the FWP price was about as low as they could negotiate on an order and I would get any current incentives when it arrived. I've seen a few post to make me believe that they could have absolutely come off of the price more than FWP. What are you guys seeing when ordering? My issue is that the dealer is a "friend" of mine I am a trusting guy. I would like to know what is normal when I go in to pick the truck up.
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Bryamill:
I ordered a 2500 Laramie diesel at 6.4% below invoice - little negotiating and no dealer junk fees - but had to go to a high volume dealer to get that. Of the 15 dealers or so i contacted only Mark Dodge and Bud Clary (Philip Olson) in Seattle were able to better my tread lightly coupon at 1% below invoice. All other dealers told me there was no way they could even get close to 6% below invoice and some said it was too good to be true. So, as others have stated, I think some dealers have different business and profit models - and therefore have different floors below which they will let a deal walk.
For me, it was worth the fly and drive option to get that desk. For others, time is money, and are satisfied with less of a deal. To each there own
 
What is the FWP price? Is that invoice?

I see in the other thread that FWP is invoice. It looks like I am about 3% below invoice plus any incentives at delivery.

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Bryamill said:
I posted this same question in the build forum, so sorry for the duplicate. I ordered back in early January, and my truck just shipped. When negotiating, I was basically told that the FWP price was about as low as they could negotiate on an order and I would get any current incentives when it arrived. I've seen a few post to make me believe that they could have absolutely come off of the price more than FWP. What are you guys seeing when ordering? My issue is that the dealer is a "friend" of mine I am a trusting guy. I would like to know what is normal when I go in to pick the truck up.
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Maybe it depends on where you are located. Several dealers I talked to here in Oregon were not willing to do anything other than MSRP on a 2021 order. My local dealer, was not interested in ordering at all even though they had nothing on their lot. They only wanted to bring in a 2020 from one of their other locations and then only if I was willing to "not be picky on color or options". Yeah, right. Other dealers had a couple of 2020s that they were willing to make a good deal on but I was not interested in those particular truck's options and also wanted the 2021. Some dealers I contacted that did not respond in a timely or specific fashion so I took that as a bad sign and wrote them off. One California dealer did get back to me and indicated they would go below any other official pricing I could find. But that was almost 3 weeks after I had emailed them twice and called and left a message!

I ended up expanding my dealer radius greatly and found that Friends and Family pricing was achievable if I was willing to travel a ways. In the end I decided I was OK with F&F pricing to get exactly what I wanted and to have a communicative dealership. I will end up making a trip out of it to pick it up but I know someone else who ordered a truck at the same time through the same dealer. Hopefully it will go smoothly and if our trucks arrive close together we can spend time together figuring them out. On the way home, I will stop and visit my son so that makes the trip even less of a hassle. Plus I am thinking and hoping that we got in just under the wire with the blind spot monitoring and if I had delayed a couple of weeks longer looking for a better deal would have missed out on that for sure.
 
Just received a 1,000 cash allowance email from Ram. Says good on 2500 and 3500’s. Checked with dealer and can use provided take delivery before 4/30. I signed up a couple weeks ago on Ram website and was hoping to see that 1,500 pop up that people saw on December.
 
Sasquatch said:
Just received a 1,000 cash allowance email from Ram. Says good on 2500 and 3500’s. Checked with dealer and can use provided take delivery before 4/30. I signed up a couple weeks ago on Ram website and was hoping to see that 1,500 pop up that people saw on December.
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I just got the same email. Thing is, still not enough with the tight supply. And with the current political/ economic calamity to come, little lady tells me I have to wait. Bummer.
 
Sasquatch said:
Just received a 1,000 cash allowance email from Ram. Says good on 2500 and 3500’s. Checked with dealer and can use provided take delivery before 4/30. I signed up a couple weeks ago on Ram website and was hoping to see that 1,500 pop up that people saw on December.
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What did you sign up for to get it ?
 
Cpschevy said:
What did you sign up for to get it ?
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About two weeks ago - and email came in rab
Cpschevy said:
No i mean what did you sign up for ? because i tried on ramtrucks.com and never got anything
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On the Ram website there’s a link where you sign up for updates- under the Research section. I put in 2500. This has to be what triggered the email - I haven’t entered email anywhere else.
 

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Sasquatch said:
About two weeks ago - and email came in rab

On the Ram website there’s a link where you sign up for updates- under the Research section. I put in 2500. This has to be what triggered the email - I haven’t entered email anywhere else.
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Ok thank you !
 
Cpschevy said:
Ok thank you !
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I guess that is the same place I did already sign up through email and Mail but so far I haven't got any offers and that was 2 to 3 weeks ago. I signed up again hoping I will get more then the $750 offer I got in the mail a month ago that has since expired ☹️
 
Sasquatch said:
About two weeks ago - and email came in rab

On the Ram website there’s a link where you sign up for updates- under the Research section. I put in 2500. This has to be what triggered the email - I haven’t entered email anywhere else.
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For those that have signed up for updates and gotten the rebate what did you select for "When do you plan to purchase your vehicle?" question?
I'm just curious if that determines when you might get an email rebate. I also couldn't take advantage of last months $750 mailed rebate due to inventory not being available.
Now there is inventory I'm interested in but no rebates. I emailed Ram to see if they would extend the $750 rebate any they said no.
 
jkraeger said:
For those that have signed up for updates and gotten the rebate what did you select for "When do you plan to purchase your vehicle?" question?
I'm just curious if that determines when you might get an email rebate. I also couldn't take advantage of last months $750 mailed rebate due to inventory not being available.
Now there is inventory I'm interested in but no rebates. I emailed Ram to see if they would extend the $750 rebate any they said no.
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That is strange because when I called to see if they would extend it I was told it was locked to my vin and wouldn't expire even though it did on february 28th. Maybe since I ordered a truck they did that and won't extend it if you just want to buy one off the lot ?
 
jkraeger said:
For those that have signed up for updates and gotten the rebate what did you select for "When do you plan to purchase your vehicle?" question?
I'm just curious if that determines when you might get an email rebate. I also couldn't take advantage of last months $750 mailed rebate due to inventory not being available.
Now there is inventory I'm interested in but no rebates. I emailed Ram to see if they would extend the $750 rebate any they said no.
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Oh and I selected within a month for purchase when I signed up hoping to get one for when my truck was supposed to get delivered .
 
Are the new 2500 prices you guys are quoting OTD including destination charge? I'm about to pull the trigger on a well optioned 2019 Laramie gas with low miles (11k) because the new trucks are both difficult to find and not getting discounted very much. Not sure if it's limited supply because of COVID or I just haven't found the right dealer, but I've been looking nationwide on Autotrader and Cars.com and not seeing any better options.

Current used truck I will likely purchase is $54k OTD with a $66,800 sticker, so 20% off MSRP. It has just about everything I want except color and appearance packages, but those are lowest on the priority list. But looking at VIN history it looks like this same truck may have sold for $56k new back in 2019. The 2020/2021's have gone up in factory price a bit (for no good reason), but if I was able to purchase a new one for 15% off MSRP that would be around $56-57k and be tempting. FWIW, invoice pricing on a 2020 equipped the same way is $62365, and with affiliate pricing that would be $61741, so only about a 8% discount from MSRP.
 
Cpschevy said:
That is strange because when I called to see if they would extend it I was told it was locked to my vin and wouldn't expire even though it did on february 28th. Maybe since I ordered a truck they did that and won't extend it if you just want to buy one off the lot ?
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As it turns out I too called and spoke with the Incentives group, yes the Bonus Cash that was mailed is extended to delivery but........ If you use it you forgo any new incentives that might be available. So the bottom line is, hold it and use what provides a better Bonus if they do in fact roll out nay new ones
 
I have been reading this forum for almost a year, all the information has been extremely useful and helped me in my truck shopping endeavors. So thank you all!

A couple of weeks ago I picked up a leftover 2020 3500 Limited 6.4L

MSRP: $67,945
Price paid: $57,945* excluding doc fee, title, and taxes

10k off, 14.7%

Had my trade (2012 2500, Cummins SLT) valued at $25,500
*They tried to tack on the freight/destination fee when I got there, even though when I negotiated the deal over the phone I was quite clear that it was not to be on top of the $57,945. They added $1695 to the trade in value to account for it (up to $27,195) , something about having to show it being charged on their paperwork. It was a net 0 so I am not including that in the price I paid.

Drove about 4 hours from NJ to MD to get this deal done. NJ dealers weren't willing to do an order below invoice - one dealer even told me he couldn't tell me a price until they took delivery. I was originally looking for 2500s, and just happened to do a search on 3500s... never an issue to have too much truck.
 
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JimA said:
Are the new 2500 prices you guys are quoting OTD including destination charge? I'm about to pull the trigger on a well optioned 2019 Laramie gas with low miles (11k) because the new trucks are both difficult to find and not getting discounted very much. Not sure if it's limited supply because of COVID or I just haven't found the right dealer, but I've been looking nationwide on Autotrader and Cars.com and not seeing any better options.

Current used truck I will likely purchase is $54k OTD with a $66,800 sticker, so 20% off MSRP. It has just about everything I want except color and appearance packages, but those are lowest on the priority list. But looking at VIN history it looks like this same truck may have sold for $56k new back in 2019. The 2020/2021's have gone up in factory price a bit (for no good reason), but if I was able to purchase a new one for 15% off MSRP that would be around $56-57k and be tempting. FWIW, invoice pricing on a 2020 equipped the same way is $62365, and with affiliate pricing that would be $61741, so only about a 8% discount from MSRP.
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Prices discussed/quoted should never be 100% "OTD" as state and local taxes, fees, registration costs, etc. vary significantly.

If you don't have a baseline then it's all relatively meaningless.
 
Been perusing this board to help me make a decision on buying or ordering a power wagon. I really want to order to ensure I get what I want, but with rising gas prices and Memorial Day right around the corner, I'm wondering if it'd be in my best interest to wait and see what kind of incentives or rebates are available in May. I'd appreciate any opinions and insight. Thanks.
 
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