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Hey all,

I have been soaking up the information on this forum for some months now learning quite a bit and finally decided to join. I recently ordered what will be my first new truck, a 2024 3500 Bighorn CCLB SRW HO through Mark Dodge after everyone here spoke so highly about them (my experience has been excellent as well). Down the road, I intend to purchase a decent sized slide in truck camper and needed a bit more payload than my current 2500 offered. It has been a rather exciting and nervous process with frequent checking of emails and the Ram Tracking website haha. I did get an email from Ram today saying my vehicle is now added to their "Production Que" and it shows "Scheduled" on the tracking website, not sure if that means D1 or something else?

I am quite new to these current trucks, my previous Rams being a 2001 2500 CCLB HO with a NV5600 and currently a 2005 2500 CCSB with a G56 and sadly will miss the manual transmission. One of the stressors with this order involves the timing and best way to sell my 2005 to get a good price and when/where to list it as I do not want to be without a truck any longer than I need to before the new one shows up. I hate to make a request on my first post but if any of you have any feed back or opinions on a reasonable starting asking price, where to list it (Carsoup?) and how quickly something like this might move I would certainly appreciate it. It's kind of hard to find manual transmission trucks from this era with such low miles so compairables have been difficult. I will list some details and photos below. Thanks and I look forward to getting to know you folks!

2005 Ram 2500 Bighorn CCSB (pre emmissions)
G56 6-Speed with Southbend single disk clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, hydraulics (no more dual mass flywheel)
97K miles
Body is in good shape, LineX, topper, brush guard, good tires
Fairly recent replacement of ball joints, U-joints, shocks all the way around
Not much for performance, S&B cold intake and a Smarty Touch with gauges (never cranked up)
2nd owner, adult driven, garage kept, no heavy towing, great interior. Fuel filter and synthetic oil change every 8-10k miles


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Welcome to the forum. Looks like it's in great shape, selling timeline is always a bear when you've got an order in. Good luck with your decision, my 2 cents, sell it now and have it off your plate early.
 
Or keep it if you can afford to... I have kept my 04 and have a 22 as well. My 04 is a NV5600, so I'm in a similar boat as you. Good shape and low miles.
 
I'd love to keep it but due to garage space and needing to fund the new one that isn't in the cards. I'm sure I will regret that down the road though. I have a take home vehicle for work so I don't put a lot of miles on my personal trucks but do not have a spare vehicle at the moment so was hoping to sell it around 2-4 weeks before I take delivery of the new one. I can borrow a spare vehicle from a family member for a couple weeks if needed.
 
There have been a couple of times I miss the 05, but never at the time and expense of maintaining two 3500 diesels.

How big of a camper are you considering? Even the small ones eat up the RAWR very quickly on a SRW.
 
Looking at the Wolf Creek 890 (2300 lbs dry, 3000ish loaded?) but getting a 3500 would open up some other options if I could find a lightly used Artic Fox or Lance in good shape. I am not shopping for anything with slides so I think the SRW should be sufficient. I also ordered the new truck with a 5th wheel prep package in the event I change my mind down the road. I don't put a lot of miles on and tend to keep vehicles for a long time so I am hoping to get 15 years out of the new one.
 
Be careful with dry weight, I’ve seen it nearly 1000lbs under delivered weight on a Lance.. a small Lance that didn’t even go past the bumper.
 
That is a good point, it would be nice if the manufacturers could be a little more forthcoming with their products actual weight. I went with limited options on the truck I ordered and am hoping the payload comes in at around 4k lbs which should give me some wiggle room. Regardless, the 2k payload in my 2005 2500 was not going to cut it at all and having a long box again will be nice. I really don't need a high output but have always had a manual transmission and a certain level of distrust for the automatics. I felt the cost was worth it for the peace of mine of the Aisin and possibly better resale down the road. The emissions systems worry me a bit too on these new trucks but after the warranty is up, there are some (expensive) options for that.
 
AH64ID said:
Be careful with dry weight, I’ve seen it nearly 1000lbs under delivered weight on a Lance.. a small Lance that didn’t even go past the bumper.
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While I agree anybody should actually take their trailer to the scales to see exactly what they are dealing with, I think it's a bit absurd to tell somebody looking at a trailer listed as 2300 dry / 3500 loaded to worry about their trailer weight because of a SRW on a 3500 (or 2500 for that matter).

Even if it was double the estimate he's going to have no issues with that little thing. Hell, most any 1500 could tow it just not as effortlessly. Y'all act like if somebody gets a trailer over 20' they need a Peterbuilt to safely move it.

GrtPyr congrats and enjoy your beautiful new truck when it arrives!
 
OldJeepsNewTrucks said:
While I agree anybody should actually take their trailer to the scales to see exactly what they are dealing with, I think it's a bit absurd to tell somebody looking at a trailer listed as 2300 dry / 3500 loaded to worry about their trailer weight because of a SRW on a 3500 (or 2500 for that matter).

Even if it was double the estimate he's going to have no issues with that little thing. Hell, most any 1500 could tow it just not as effortlessly. Y'all act like if somebody gets a trailer over 20' they need a Peterbuilt to safely move it.

GrtPyr congrats and enjoy your beautiful new truck when it arrives!
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He’s talking about slide in campers…. Not trailers.

Some of y’all need to read a little better before you overreact.
 
GrtPyr said:
Looking at the Wolf Creek 890 (2300 lbs dry, 3000ish loaded?) but getting a 3500 would open up some other options if I could find a lightly used Artic Fox or Lance in good shape. I am not shopping for anything with slides so I think the SRW should be sufficient. I also ordered the new truck with a 5th wheel prep package in the event I change my mind down the road. I don't put a lot of miles on and tend to keep vehicles for a long time so I am hoping to get 15 years out of the new one.
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I want to concur with AH64ID. I hav a 2006 Lance 835. The dry weight in the 2006 Brochure is listed as 2011 dry weight. In 2007 it was updated to 2114. The camper crosses the scales at 3700 lbs when it is full of fresh water, propane, and packed for a cross country trip.

According to the Ram webpage below the 2022 4x4 crew cab long box SRW has a payload of 4330. By the time that I add 100 lbs of tools, my weight over the 150 lbs accommodated in the payload calculation, any passenger weight, 200 lbs of photography gear, the 400 lbs that a Longhorn weighs more that a Tradesman, and the 100 lbs fuel weight of the 50 gallon tank adds I would be way overloaded.



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Well he already ordered the truck . If he is a bit over on weight I wouldn't lose sleep over it . I am about 400 over with my 5th wheel . Been that way for 10 years and about 50 k towing . Never a problem .
 
Nick said:
Well he already ordered the truck . If he is a bit over on weight I wouldn't lose sleep over it . I am about 400 over with my 5th wheel . Been that way for 10 years and about 50 k towing . Never a problem .
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Nick, I agree with you about being a bit over. I currently have the camper on my 2001 ram 2500 4x4. I am way over weight on the GVW for that truck. I hope my post will keep someone from making a mistake because camper brochures overestimate what a truck can do. Some camper, trailer, and truck salesman compound matters just to make the sale. I must say that not all salesman are like that, the one that I have now is very knowledgeable and honest.

I calculated the weight based on the GVW - curb weight on my registration. For the camper weight I took the dry weight in the brochure and added the weight of each option along with the weight of water in the tanks and the propane tanks. I weighed my tools, clothes, camera gear, kitchen equipment, my wife’s weight and mine. I estimated that I was 300 to 500 lbs over GVW but well within both axle and the tire ratings. I added airbags, large tires, heavier duty sway bar in the back, and the Torklift blocks for both the upper and lower overload springs. The truck handled it great.

4000 miles into our first cross country trip I weighed the truck to find that I was 1800 lbs over GVW and 100 lbs over the front axle rating. I was within the rear axle rating and the stock tire ratings. In 2001 the 3500 dually had the same front axle rating as my 2500 so that would not have made a difference. I found out through further weighing oh the truck that the weight in the Lance brochure was off and the weight on my truck registration was off.

I have had the camper on the truck for 4 years and almost 20k miles without any problems. The truck has less than 125k on it.
 
I have a Lance 1130. When I bought the camper I had a 2015 Ram 3500 SRW, OK but not great. Then I bought a 2001 Chevy 3500 DRW for a second pickup, plus I got to try out a dually. Much better, but still not great. Now?
2024 Ram 5500. I just got it so I am not all set up yet, but I know this will fix any future problems I may have with a TC.
When you get your pickup do a bunch of reading before you make any mods. Plus get your camper bought and try it out before making any mods.
Just my opinion.
 
Bigboom338 said:
I have a Lance 1130. When I bought the camper I had a 2015 Ram 3500 SRW, OK but not great. Then I bought a 2001 Chevy 3500 DRW for a second pickup, plus I got to try out a dually. Much better, but still not great. Now?
2024 Ram 5500. I just got it so I am not all set up yet, but I know this will fix any future problems I may have with a TC.
When you get your pickup do a bunch of reading before you make any mods. Plus get your camper bought and try it out before making any mods.
Just my opinion.
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BigBoom338 I agree, I made would make a mod and then go camping locally before my first long trip.

I saw the post on your mods and really like them. Going with a 5500 for larger Lance TCs is a great idea. I wished I would have thought of that especially if I could get a mega cab with an 8’ pickup box.

What did you use for tie downs on your other trucks? I got the rear bumper deployable step to help me get in the bed of the truck when the camper is not on. If I use Torklift the step needs to be removed each time I put the tie down on. With Happijac I would not have to do that but I am concerned with how flimsy the rear bumper is. I have thought about reinforcing the bumper with box channel or angle iron. I like the front Happijac tie down better than the Torklift since it reinforces the front of the pickup box.


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GrtPyr said:
Hey all,

I have been soaking up the information on this forum for some months now learning quite a bit and finally decided to join. I recently ordered what will be my first new truck, a 2024 3500 Bighorn CCLB SRW HO through Mark Dodge after everyone here spoke so highly about them (my experience has been excellent as well). Down the road, I intend to purchase a decent sized slide in truck camper and needed a bit more payload than my current 2500 offered. It has been a rather exciting and nervous process with frequent checking of emails and the Ram Tracking website haha. I did get an email from Ram today saying my vehicle is now added to their "Production Que" and it shows "Scheduled" on the tracking website, not sure if that means D1 or something else?

I am quite new to these current trucks, my previous Rams being a 2001 2500 CCLB HO with a NV5600 and currently a 2005 2500 CCSB with a G56 and sadly will miss the manual transmission. One of the stressors with this order involves the timing and best way to sell my 2005 to get a good price and when/where to list it as I do not want to be without a truck any longer than I need to before the new one shows up. I hate to make a request on my first post but if any of you have any feed back or opinions on a reasonable starting asking price, where to list it (Carsoup?) and how quickly something like this might move I would certainly appreciate it. It's kind of hard to find manual transmission trucks from this era with such low miles so compairables have been difficult. I will list some details and photos below. Thanks and I look forward to getting to know you folks!

2005 Ram 2500 Bighorn CCSB (pre emmissions)
G56 6-Speed with Southbend single disk clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, hydraulics (no more dual mass flywheel)
97K miles
Body is in good shape, LineX, topper, brush guard, good tires
Fairly recent replacement of ball joints, U-joints, shocks all the way around
Not much for performance, S&B cold intake and a Smarty Touch with gauges (never cranked up)
2nd owner, adult driven, garage kept, no heavy towing, great interior. Fuel filter and synthetic oil change every 8-10k miles


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I sold my 2015 Ram 3500 in August. I had it listed on Craigslist, Car guru, cars.com, auto trader and my wife's FB. Facebook and CL were the only ones with real action.
The buyer found it on FB and came from 300 miles away. Good luck, it ain't no fun selling privately, but the difference between trading and selling made it worth it.
 
tmfham said:
BigBoom338 I agree, I made would make a mod and then go camping locally before my first long trip.

I saw the post on your mods and really like them. Going with a 5500 for larger Lance TCs is a great idea. I wished I would have thought of that especially if I could get a mega cab with an 8’ pickup box.

What did you use for tie downs on your other trucks? I got the rear bumper deployable step to help me get in the bed of the truck when the camper is not on. If I use Torklift the step needs to be removed each time I put the tie down on. With Happijac I would not have to do that but I am concerned with how flimsy the rear bumper is. I have thought about reinforcing the bumper with box channel or angle iron. I like the front Happijac tie down better than the Torklift since it reinforces the front of the pickup box.


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On my Ram I had Torklift on all 4 corners. The Chevy has HappiJac all the way around. HappiJac is much more difficult to install, but works well. Shorter front tiedowns is a benefit.
Since the front tiedowns do the majority of the work, don't be concerned about the rear ones going to the bumper. The rears are mainly for side to side stability, the fronts keep things in place, at least with the HappiJac system. Don't be afraid to mix and match, TL up front and HJ on the back.
 
Bigboom338 said:
On my Ram I had Torklift on all 4 corners. The Chevy has HappiJac all the way around. HappiJac is much more difficult to install, but works well. Shorter front tiedowns is a benefit.
Since the front tiedowns do the majority of the work, don't be concerned about the rear ones going to the bumper. The rears are mainly for side to side stability, the fronts keep things in place, at least with the HappiJac system. Don't be afraid to mix and match, TL up front and HJ on the back.
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Thank you.


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