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Off road package

Alright now we need to figure out if the long bed folks can add one. Do you have the frame end mounting hardware and is it the same distance from the top of the axle?
 
Might be interesting in adding one too. My truck hops like a rabbit with any sight wheel spin. Something that happens a lot with the garbage Firestones.
 
Epsilon Plus said:
My truck hops like a rabbit with any sight wheel spin. Something that happens a lot with the garbage Firestones.
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I don't know why but my truck always does that on a sandy driveway on my property in Michigan. I always have to put 4x4 or I will tear the driveway. It was embarrassing when one of my friends arrived in minivan and no problems at all and two others (one chevy and one toyota truck) no problems. My truck just jumps.
 
Rockcrawlerdude said:
Alright now we need to figure out if the long bed folks can add one. Do you have the frame end mounting hardware and is it the same distance from the top of the axle?
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If you have the frame mount you can add one. It comes with a bilstein 4600 shock but they do make a 5100 for it as well. I upgraded it on my last truck and it did seem to help. In sand though you are going to always hop sadly. Its the nature of the beast with rubber bushings on the control arms front and rear.
 
loveracing1988 said:
If you have the frame mount you can add one. It comes with a bilstein 4600 shock but they do make a 5100 for it as well. I upgraded it on my last truck and it did seem to help. In sand though you are going to always hop sadly. Its the nature of the beast with rubber bushings on the control arms front and rear.
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I did some research and to stop the hop we need to install a traction bar
 
kristof said:
So my only option is to add that rear anti-wrap shock? Will this help on sand?
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I’m sure the shock doesn’t hurt but I would call it a bandaid instead of a fix.

I’ve only driven in sand one time, in my rock crawler which has beadlocks and ~5psi in the tires. I can’t claim to be a sand driving expert. I know very little about driving in sand and how it acts.
 
Rockcrawlerdude said:
I’m sure the shock doesn’t hurt but I would call it a bandaid instead of a fix.

I’ve only driven in sand one time, in my rock crawler which has beadlocks and ~5psi in the tires. I can’t claim to be a sand driving expert. I know very little about driving in sand and how it acts.
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I understand. I don't drive much in sand either. Only if I go to Michigan. But when I do drive in it the truck hop like crazy and my wife and kids are always terrified.
 
kristof said:
I understand. I don't drive much in sand either. Only if I go to Michigan. But when I do drive in it the truck hop like crazy and my wife and kids are always terrified.
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Do you have the means to air down before hitting the sand and air back up after?
 
b307a1 said:
You don't look like an ass for doing something we all do and you are right that we all learned something from it.
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My father always said you don’t quit learning to your dead. But some people just choose to quit educating themselves early.
 
I looked under my truck last night and realized the anti-wrap shock is there from factory. Looks like it doesn't help me much in the sand
 
Rockcrawlerdude said:
Wont do any good on a 2500. Those are put on leaf sprung trucks
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I thought you can buy one for coil spring shocks also? I saw two kinds. One that you can weld to the rear axle and one with bolt on brackets. The second option won't work if you have or plan to have air bags in the rear
 
Is it possible I could replace the shock with a solid bar? Will this work better?
 
kristof said:
Is it possible I could replace the shock with a solid bar? Will this work better?
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No, it will rip the mount off within 3 seconds. Your only fix is solid mount bushings which opens up a whole can of worms. Someone on the power wagon forum came up with an idea to use 3 of the axle hop shocks but I can't remember if they said it solved the issue or just was another bandaid.
 
Questions on the Off-Road package. I have a 2021 Crew, Shortbed, Cummins.
Are the Springs longer for the Off-Road Pkg? Thought I read that these were 1" longer.
Also, which Bilstens come with it? They are blue/yellow, but I haven't found a number on them.

I would have not ordered the Off Road package if I had a choice, I would have got the Sno-King.
I'm now installing a Carli suspension kit, so all the springs, shocks, and track bar will be up for sale. I'm just wondering if the springs would improve a stock 2500? I'm sure the shocks would, but I'm not a fan of them. Seems they are stiff on small hits and not stiff enough on big hits.
 
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