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Nothing new for 2025 How does everyone feel?

On our 2024 Ram HO Cummins block there's not this new green unit (middle of photo) that's on the 2025 Ram HO Cummins. OTA software updates on the Cummins engine emissions at anytime when required. I feel like the 1978 and 1998 pickup trucks that I purchased new and still own today wouldn't be allowed to be running if a company had their access to reducing the engine emissions on it at anytime without my say.

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OTA means "Over The Air", as in wireless. That green plug has nothing to do with updates, it's a connector for a wiring harness that isn't installed on that one because 3/4 of the truck isn't attached.
 
Its super nice not having to re-gear. We live in snow country, retiring in Colorado at just under 11K. I am a fan of 35s as well. Never been not able to get out with both lockers and 35s. The newer Power Wagons clear the front tires better I believe, and the ZF transmission with the 4:10s should be amazing. We have the ZF in our Grenadier, with, ding ding, 4:10s and it is OUTSTANDING off road. We run the same 35x17x12.50 HD Terrains on both our 2018 PW and 2024 Grenadier. Who would have thunk it? Dodge and a Billionaires wet dream having the same set up? :D What you removing snow with? I ordered a Case 321F new. Ski areas love them, and I ordered twin lockers and hi flow. Planning on running a Summit Snow Blower I think, but I really need to figure out the right sectional snow plow for off road.
2016 Ram 2500 4x4 Power Wagon on 35 12.50R17 Toyo C/T's with snow chains dragging a home made plow with 2x12x8 feet planks loaded down in front with large chains on a truck spare tire on a wood pallet. Lockers engaged and 4 low. I hate to regear. 3.42-1 trucks like the 2025 we've had in the past and weren't optimal for larger tires. Our son-in-law regeared with 37's on a Jeep Rubicon and had to regear their Tacoma TRD too recently.
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On our 2014 Ram 2500 4x4 and 2016 Ram 2500 PW 4x4 HD's both run 3PMSF (winter rated) 35's (34.8") tires. Right after purchasing our Ram 2024 3500 4x4 in October 2024 we traded in the OEM Firestone Transforce HT tires for Toyo Open Country C/T's 3PMSF rated. Thought about upsizing to 35's from the 33's, but not with the 3.73-1. I also ran the gear charts before staying with the 275 70R18 size. If it had an option for the 4.10-1 axle gear ratio with a SRW long bed I would have gone larger. We average 250 inches of snow annually at our 8,200 feet elevation. Over 400 inches during the last couple of seasons just up our rural road at 11,000 feet on a flat top mountain. Rather have taller tires to keep from high centering with the truck in deep snow, but still keep the RPM's near what it was designed for with the 33's (33.4"). It's not for looks, but for function. Would rather have a choice of gear ratio than 3.42-1 for the 2025.

We've had two 4x4 late model vehicles in our family regeared last year in Woodland Park, Colorado due to the lack of power at these higher altitudes. Not cheap.

I run 35's on my truck and tow 16K, no issues whatsoever. I don't see that the 3.42 would be an issue with the new trans and power band.

I usually run 70-75 towing on I-25 in light/no traffic. Pulls Raton pass, Wolf Creek, etc. at the speed limits without issue. You need to consider the power of the current HO.

The 3.42 isn't a good gear for the Hemi for sure.


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2016 Ram 2500 4x4 Power Wagon on 35 12.50R17 Toyo C/T's with snow chains dragging a home made plow with 2x12x8 feet planks loaded down in front with large chains on a truck spare tire on a wood pallet. Lockers engaged and 4 low. I hate to regear. 3.42-1 trucks like the 2025 we've had in the past and weren't optimal for larger tires. Our son-in-law regeared with 37's on a Jeep Rubicon and had to regear their Tacoma TRD too recently.
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The Hemi is offered with 3.73 and 4.10.

The 3.42 is only on the Diesel.
 
I run 35's on my truck and tow 16K, no issues whatsoever. I don't see that the 3.42 would be an issue with the new trans and power band.

I usually run 70-75 towing on I-25 in light/no traffic. Pulls Raton pass, Wolf Creek, etc. at the speed limits without issue. You need to consider the power of the current HO.

The 3.42 isn't a good gear for the Hemi for sure.


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Our 2024 Ram 6.7L HO Cummins is a rocket towing up our grades in Northwestern Colorado versus our 2016 Ram 6.4L with 4.10-1. Immediately the same day of our purchase last October down in Montrose we towed the very same day our 9,995 GVWR travel trailer to a Minnesota hospital and arrived the next day. It doesn't even feel our home's 21.4 mile continuous grade starting out at a 10% gradient. Didn't even know that we got the HO Cummins until I read the paperwork after arriving. Just didn't want the 68RFE transmission and saw the Aisin. Our 66RFE was back in the shop again and we needed a truck to tow.
 
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Here's a better photo of our homemade snowplow. We tow it with our 2016 Ram 2500 4x4 Tradesman with the Power Wagon as one option and floor mats as the other option. I prefer using our 1998 Chevrolet K1500 Cheyenne stick shift V8 pickup due to towing the plow is tough on the trucks in deep snow. Rather break the old truck, than something more expensive like our Ram HDs. Our 2024 3500 4x4 Crew Cab Tradesman HO Cummins has a 50 gallon tank, only as the option. It lacks all of the Power Wagon 4x4 limited slip, lockers, and the winch needed to live here. We're retired and I feel that with the 2025 Ram HD prices are probably still going up, so on a fixed income we can't afford another new HD truck with those Power Wagon 4x4 gizmos.
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Our 2024 3500 4x4 Crew Cab Tradesman HO Cummins has a 50 gallon tank, only as the option. It lacks all of the Power Wagon 4x4 limited slip, lockers, and the winch needed to live here.

It does lack the lockers and winch, but the limited slip differential is standard on all 3500’s.
 
That kind of plow would not work in Colorado for me, that's for sure. An over night 4 foot snow is not unusual. I went front end loader despite the cost. The newer, compact loaders have the power, traction, hydraulics and comfort for about anything. And if I need to plow the entire subdivision or head across county and help others I can. I also have to deal with steep mountain slopes, and that is the real killer. Then once the snow is piled up you need a blower to get it out of the way with all the trees in the way. In NM I run an open cab skid steer, but not happening in Colorado! I might even do some recoveries up there during the summer, could be a good anchor for a nasty one above tree line. Will basically be my work truck in Colorado :D Oh, adding a wrap; https://dirtygraphix.com/products/case-321f-wrap-kits
 
That kind of plow would not work in Colorado for me, that's for sure. An over night 4 foot snow is not unusual. I went front end loader despite the cost. The newer, compact loaders have the power, traction, hydraulics and comfort for about anything. And if I need to plow the entire subdivision or head across county and help others I can. I also have to deal with steep mountain slopes, and that is the real killer. Then once the snow is piled up you need a blower to get it out of the way with all the trees in the way. In NM I run an open cab skid steer, but not happening in Colorado! I might even do some recoveries up there during the summer, could be a good anchor for a nasty one above tree line. Will basically be my work truck in Colorado :D Oh, adding a wrap; https://dirtygraphix.com/products/case-321f-wrap-kits
No one lives much higher than around 8,500 feet elevation here on the north side of the Grand Mesa in Colorado. On the south side there are year around lodges at 10,000 feet. There's nothing here like in Woodland Park and Leadville with large retail businesses at much higher elevations. Winter conditions are too harsh up the highway on the huge 500 square mile flat top. There's a plan to construct a snow shed for a cross country groomer storage at around 10,000 feet elevation up on the Grand Mesa though. Near Tie Siding, Wyoming our family owns a backhoe for deep snow drifts.

Our Mesa County rural area Sheriff's uses Ram 2500 4x4 Power Wagons on 35's. Even the Ranger Law Enforcement uses Power Wagons. My gut feeling is that they'll keep replacing them with new 2025's plus as long as they're available since they are the vehicles that works in our mountainous terrain.

 
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Ahh, got it. Was thinking you were higher. Its funny, while I will get more snow at over 10K, as much as 200" more then at 9K, its WARMER by a long shot then Silverton, with dramatically more sun. Due to Kendall Mountain, valley cold sink and inversions. Which helps for solar and melt when roads are plowed. I know it will be challenging. But not having to commute to work each day should make it doable withe the right equipment.
 
The interior of the Ram is very nice no question, but they are so far behind when it comes to the rear of the crew cab. It needs a little more space and a flat floor like the 1500 cabs. It really is mind boggling that they haven’t done that yet.
 
As a 2019 PW owner, seeing these updates makes me continue to be satisfied with my purchase. 5 years after purchasing, and I still don’t feel I’m missing anything, as they haven’t added anything of value. Same powertrain, same cab, same suspension, same axles, same armor, same bumpers. I think the new front end/grill are pretty ugly. I like the 8.4” screen with hvac knobs more than the massive tablet screen. The manual transfer case and bench seat aren’t the most efficient use of space, but I still enjoy the manual transfer case.

One thing I think I picked up in the press release is that the Hemi is going back to column shifter from the knob. I’m sure lots of people will be happy about this. I’ve come to like the knob, but I don’t necessarily dislike column shifter.
 
It does lack the lockers and winch, but the limited slip differential is standard on all 3500’s.
So let's just say a moose gets really angry and destroys our 2024 Ram 3500 4x4 truck and so I'll replace it with a 2025 Ram 3500 4x4. Where's the posi-traction/limited slip differential listed on a 2025 dealership feature sheet?

I turn off traction control when going through snow drifts up our private road which has a 15% to 20% grade. My thoughts are that the traction control applies the brakes to the slipping tires which doesn't help with making a steep grade in snow. I don't think that limited slip is listed as traction control.

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So let's just say a moose gets really angry and destroys our 2024 Ram 3500 4x4 truck and so I'll replace it with a 2025 Ram 3500 4x4. Where's the posi-traction/limited slip differential listed on a 2025 dealership feature sheet?

I turn off traction control when going through snow drifts up our private road which has a 15% to 20% grade. My thoughts are that the traction control applies the brakes to the slipping tires which doesn't help with making a steep grade in snow. I don't think that limited slip is listed as traction control.

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It's listed on the vehicle build sheets which you can retrieve online with a VIN, the buyer's guides, and is "Anti-Spin" on every 3500 rear axle.

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You can find links to retrieving your build sheet, the past and present Buyer's Guides, etc. at the following sticky.

 
I feel that the Anti-spin Differential Rear Axle should be listed on the new 2025 Ram 3500 dealership truck's window build sheet. This feature was quite important in my purchase of our 2024. The salesman kept stating that it was included, but I wasn't seeing it listed.

It goes back over 50 years as a teenager with my driving of my brother's 1967 Pontiac Firebird without posi-traction versus my 1968 Mercury Cougar with limited slip. Both had high performance V8's. Lots of torque and horsepower means nothing if the rear tire(s) getting the power just spin.
 
As a 2019 PW owner, seeing these updates makes me continue to be satisfied with my purchase. 5 years after purchasing, and I still don’t feel I’m missing anything, as they haven’t added anything of value. Same powertrain, same cab, same suspension, same axles, same armor, same bumpers. I think the new front end/grill are pretty ugly. I like the 8.4” screen with hvac knobs more than the massive tablet screen. The manual transfer case and bench seat aren’t the most efficient use of space, but I still enjoy the manual transfer case.

One thing I think I picked up in the press release is that the Hemi is going back to column shifter from the knob. I’m sure lots of people will be happy about this. I’ve come to like the knob, but I don’t necessarily dislike column shifter.
Not much to argue with. My 2018 needs replaced with 200K and a slowly dying engine. But thats the point. Ram is hurting on sales, and the HD make over was only partial. Not much to encourage new buyers or bring back old ones.
 
Not much to argue with. My 2018 needs replaced with 200K and a slowly dying engine. But thats the point. Ram is hurting on sales, and the HD make over was only partial. Not much to encourage new buyers or bring back old ones.
The 2019 with the ZF and new interior was a big change vs 2018, but since then yeah nothing that really makes the buyer feel the need to get the latest and greatest. As a customer I can’t complain about that haha, plus it means parts will be available for many years into the future. Mechanically, the power wagon hasn’t really changed too much in over 10 years (2014 model year, when they switched to coil spring rear, 3 link front, and hemi 6.4)
 
If I had only waited a year. :( But my 2005 Titan was getting pretty rough. Did not help some kid in Ram 3500 crashed into it because he could not figure out a stick shift :mad:
 
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