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New 2027 or keep my current 2020?

DarkHorse8 said:
Some of you seriously need to go out and drive one. You’ll see.
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I am talking about 2027 Ram, not a 2026.
I’m sure the 2026’s are great, but I am actually looking at buying a truck that’s not even available yet.
 
DarkHorse8 said:
I got you. I wasn’t necessarily referring to you but I understand.
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I knew the 2026 cab & chassis truck specs, and although I thought the transmission change to an 8 speed was great, I was disappointed they didn’t bump the cab & chassis trucks’ torque to “keep up with the Jones’s” (Ford & GM).
My dealer gave me some hope when he said ALL Rams will have a base torque of 1075, that got me tempted, but this appears to be bad info (we shall see).

If they are going to stay at 800, I thought I’d give Ford a look, but their warranty is pathetic.

That’s why I may just wait and keep what I have. I still don’t see much info on 2027’s.
 
A new, reliable truck is a money maker for me, but a CTL would make me even more.
If I did go with a CTL, I’d still have my ‘20 Ram, but be opening myself up to inevitable repairs.
It’s been a real good truck, but you can’t ignore duty cycles, or wear & tear.
And those inevitable, upcoming repairs could have to all be paid for by me.
 
Farmer 5500 said:
A new, reliable truck is a money maker for me, but a CTL would make me even more.
If I did go with a CTL, I’d still have my ‘20 Ram, but be opening myself up to inevitable repairs.
It’s been a real good truck, but you can’t ignore duty cycles, or wear & tear.
And those inevitable, upcoming repairs could have to all be paid for by me.
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It doesn’t sound like it’s been a good truck, honestly.

You already said your warranty has paid out repair claims and now you’re expecting “inevitable repairs” this upcoming year. You’re only at 75k. This is not what a “good truck” looks like.
 
I’m only at 75K, but it’s been all work, not play doing farm-related work.
The warranty has paid some claims, enough to pay for itself. Do you really think $3,000 in repairs is a lot?
I needed a DEF tank pump and injector, a DEF tank level gauge, (2) heated steering wheels, and a passenger side mirror (heat failed).
Been running trucks like this for 25 years and OTR trucking in class 8’s for a while, too and in my experience, that’s actually a small amount of warranty repairs in 6 years, 75,000 miles.

As far as going into the future, based on my research and experience over 75,000 and yes things can fail.
 
I don’t know if anyone posted this link yet, but good info on the 2026 block. It’s made in China (regular iron). The previous generation was made in Mexico (CGI)

 
Farmer 5500 said:
I don’t know if anyone posted this link yet, but good info on the 2026 block. It’s made in China (regular iron). The previous generation was made in Mexico (CGI)

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I thought the block was made at their MidRange engine plant in Columbus also assembled at the same facility.
 
Xflight29 said:
I thought the block was made at their MidRange engine plant in Columbus also assembled at the same facility.
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Watch the video. The blocks up to 2024 or 2025 made in mexico from CGI. The 2026 blocks are made in China. It’s even stamped on the block.
They are probably just assembled here.
 
Farmer 5500 said:
Watch the video. The blocks up to 2024 or 2025 made in mexico from CGI. The 2026 blocks are made in China. It’s even stamped on the block.
They are probably just assembled here.
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Wow, I stand corrected. I don't understand why he refers to it as a 6th Gen when Gen has to do with cab configuration. I think people keep referring to it as a 6th gen due to the motor re-design.
 
Farmer 5500 said:
Watch the video. The blocks up to 2024 or 2025 made in mexico from CGI. The 2026 blocks are made in China. It’s even stamped on the block.
They are probably just assembled here.
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They're getting their years mixed up. The engine redesign, including the block move back to grey iron was 2025.

I posted a stand alone thread on this yesterday here:

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Thread 'Look inside the 25+ redesign engine/block/head'

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So it looks like a pretty substantial redesign happened. #6 heating the oil is pretty cool feature, but I wonder why the move away from CGI?
CGI was saving some weight and is pretty strong.
 
Farmer 5500 said:
So it looks like a pretty substantial redesign happened. #6 heating the oil is pretty cool feature, but I wonder why the move away from CGI?
CGI was saving some weight and is pretty strong.
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It's about Long-term durability and integrity. I believe it also had to do with lifter issues because of block flexibility. CGi is not stronger than cast-iron it is only stronger by weight.
 
Xflight29 said:
Until you drive the new Ram HD, you have no idea the difference it has compared to any other Ram out there. The new motor married to the 8 speed is such a game changer, you won't be disappointed at all. Life is all about taking chances, you could just as easy have something unexpected happen to your existing Ram. I have a 2025 one of the first off, the line and it now has 27K miles with more than half of that towing heavy loads and has had ZERO issues. We have 2 3500 2025 at work that just turned 63K miles with ZERO issues.
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Hi
Enjoy with brand new truck I know and Believe no issues with your truck and it will be not any problems. That’s good feeling and vibe again enjoy have good trips.
 
50 lbs savings on the CGI block is pretty substantial. What's odd is that Ford has used CGI for a while with great success. Seems like anything Cummins does outside of cast iron and flat tappets is junk. They perfected their craft 100 years ago but that's still ALL they can do. Lol.
 
It was interesting to me that the 2500/3500 get helical cut gears and the 4500/5500 got the straight cut gears.
Definitely an effort to reduce NVH in the lighter trucks
 
Farmer 5500 said:
It was interesting to me that the 2500/3500 get helical cut gears and the 4500/5500 got the straight cut gears.
Definitely an effort to reduce NVH in the lighter trucks
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That gear was from an 2024 and older 4500/5500. They didn't have a 25+ 4500/5500 gear to show.
 
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