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I need to know about travel trailer weights

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Brutal_HO said:
Few also realize the WDH also transfers weight to the trailer axles and can help with some stability on the trailer end. I would also add that double towing with some anti-sway between the 1st and 2nd trailer improves control. One cannot always add too much more tongue weight than reasonable to the rear of the 1st trailer without affecting the whole system adversely.
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You should launch your boat while its hooked up to the trailer. You'd be the epic king of the boat launch
 
jetrinka said:
You should launch your boat while its hooked up to the trailer. You'd be the epic king of the boat launch
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Would get the 5th wheel wet. Not good.

It's also tough to make that bottom ramp turn on the ramps we encounter - LONG and wide enough to turn around at the bottom - as the boat will contact the trailer on full lock if I continue the turn-around.
 
Brutal_HO said:
Would get the 5th wheel wet. Not good.

It's also tough to make that bottom ramp turn on the ramps we encounter - LONG and wide enough to turn around at the bottom - as the boat will contact the trailer on full lock if I continue the turn-around.
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Here I am expecting some sort of earth shattering "I've done that", towing god-mode story. lol.

I feel good about myself when I go to the dump and whip my utility trailer into a slot on the first try nice and quick while getting a nod of approval from the guy tending the place. I don't think I'd try double tow though (also I believe illegal in WA)
 
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Double tow is illegal in WA, and OR… thou I haven’t been pulled over for it when I’ve driven thru Oregon with doubles.

Aside from reverse it’s really not a big deal. I’ve done it with both TT’s and 5th wheels. You do have to be careful on tight turns with a 5th wheel as the 2nd trailer can contact the 5th wheel even thou the truck is moving forward.

jetrinka said:
That was the problem with that hitch - the anti sway and WD part of it were the same part. The trunnions acted like a spring and the tension of them sliding on top of the trailer tongue brackets is what go your anti sway feature. Super dumb
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Similar to how the equali-I-zer works, which I have found to be far better than the chain style WDH’s, especially on back roads. The anti-sway portion is immaterial, and I keep the tension on the head at the minimum and use and anti-noise pad on the L brackets that reduces friction.

I guess Husky isn’t well known for quality.
 
silver billet said:
wrong opinion.
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Isn't that one of them there oxymoron things?

Just give it up right there H3LZ, you're not allowed to have an opinion, you're just gonna be wrong.

Most of the "positive" characteristics of WDH's that were listed are what I don't like about them. Seems like there's a group of us forming? Guess we're all wrong.

Now, getting a travel trailer to pull and feel like a 5er, I've got to see! LMAO

Edit: If I were pulling doubles very far like Brutal, I might have a different opinion. Maybe I would be right then? LOL
 
silver billet said:
The facts are, a WDH when used correctly will always outperform the same truck/trailer without one. Simple physics my friend.
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Ah well dang now that you said it was a fact I am unable to retort

I’m glad you’re enjoying your WDH and I’m sure the person who upsold you on it is glad you like it as well.

*I will revise my stance on WDH to add the exception may be for people like @Brutal_HO that pull double trailers like a redneck road train (: those people need all the help they can get (;
 
Blythkd1 said:
Isn't that one of them there oxymoron things?

Just give it up right there H3LZ, you're not allowed to have an opinion, you're just gonna be wrong.

Most of the "positive" characteristics of WDH's that were listed are what I don't like about them. Seems like there's a group of us forming? Guess we're all wrong.

Now, getting a travel trailer to pull and feel like a 5er, I've got to see! LMAO

Edit: If I were pulling doubles very far like Brutal, I might have a different opinion. Maybe I would be right then? LOL
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I guess people like making things more complicated than they are. And i would never spend anything near the cost of these fancy WDH just to try them when every trailer i have ever towed was great without a WDH

And The amount of trailers i tow i will never setup a WDH on every different trailer. Perhaps these people believe in there WDH so much because they are trying to justify the cost?
 
Rockcrawlerdude said:
*I will revise my stance on WDH to add the exception may be for people like @Brutal_HO that pull double trailers like a redneck road train :) those people need all the help they can get (;
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Most places do not allow ball to ball towing so that example is only good far a small portion of people. I tow tandem with my 5th wheel as its the only legal way here
 
Blythkd1 said:
Isn't that one of them there oxymoron things?
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No. Some opinions are definitely wrong. I can give you many examples, like for example someone who thinks underage sex is OK etc etc.

Anyone who denies that a properly setup WDH tows better than the same trailer without a WDH is denying decades of research by engineers. This isn't an opinion, its conclusions drawn from knowing the facts and physics behind it all.

Rockcrawlerdude said:
Ah well dang now that you said it was a fact I am unable to retort

I’m glad you’re enjoying your WDH and I’m sure the person who upsold you on it is glad you like it as well.
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Wrong again my friend, it is I who did the research and bought the WDH's I own. Current one was bought on Amazon, no salesman.

Rockcrawlerdude said:
*I will revise my stance on WDH to add the exception may be for people like @Brutal_HO that pull double trailers like a redneck road train :) those people need all the help they can get (;
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You can't revise your stance and say it's good for double trailers but not for single, when the reason it works for double is the same reason it works for single. Your logic there is .... well I'm trying to be nice but, it appears you don't have much.
 
silver billet said:
No. Some opinions are definitely wrong. I can give you many examples, like for example someone who thinks underage sex is OK etc etc.

Anyone who denies that a properly setup WDH tows better than the same trailer without a WDH is denying decades of research by engineers. This isn't an opinion, its conclusions drawn from knowing the facts and physics behind it all.
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Opinions based on decades of towing hundreds of different trailers vs some one saying you need a WDH because the hitch manufacture says you need one hmm thats a tough one but ill take my experience on this one….

And engineers is a weak argument an engineer is just someone willing to take liability for their idea when it fails i work with engineers lets just say i would not let them design stuff for me its way over complicated for no benefit beyond liability


And the fact that you used that as an example for your opinions make you a sound like a sick person and makes anything you say no longer have merit to me there is no reason to even think about something like that let alone comment about it
 
silver billet said:
No. Some opinions are definitely wrong. I can give you many examples, like for example someone who thinks underage sex is OK etc etc.
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There you go, insulting me again;)

silver billet said:
Anyone who denies that a properly setup WDH tows better than the same trailer without a WDH is denying decades of research by engineers. This isn't an opinion, its conclusions drawn from knowing the facts and physics behind it all.
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Obviously an engineer. I just figured it out.

silver billet said:
Wrong again my friend, it is I who did the research and bought the WDH's I own. Current one was bought on Amazon, no salesman.
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Of course.

silver billet said:
You can't revise your stance and say it's good for double trailers but not for single, when the reason it works for double is the same reason it works for single. Your logic there is .... well I'm trying to be nice but, it appears you don't have much.
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Weak, just weak. The 2nd trailer just makes the WDH make a bit more sense. The longer you get, the more apt the tail is to wag. Don't care for the tail wagging the dog!
 
silver billet said:
Lets face it, forums are a little dull without some spice, no?

Here is a great demo of how the hensley works. Worth the 10 minutes to see how it completely eliminates sway (yes, "eliminates", which is never possible without a WDH).

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Want to eliminate sway? load the trailer properly its way cheaper than a 1700$ hitch
 
This is the only hitch that makes a bumper pull tow like a 5th wheel and it is also laughable at best

www.bpconversions.com

Bumper Pull Conversion | Houston | BPConversions LLC

We are BPConversions! We make bumper pull converters that take the old bumper pull design and upgrade it to the stable pull of a fifth wheel with no permenant alterations to the original equipment. Based in Houston.
www.bpconversions.com www.bpconversions.com
 
silver billet said:
Worth the 10 minutes to see how it completely eliminates sway (yes, "eliminates", which is never possible without a WDH).

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Now right there is the most wrong opinion we've seen on this thread. Yes, W R O N G !!

I've been towing any and everything since I was a kid, all over this great nation and I've never, EVER had a problem with a trailer swaying, or any other equipment for that matter, when I was able to properly load it. On rare occasion, I've not been able to get enough tongue weight for whatever reason, usually size and position of equipment loaded on a trailer with little choice how to load it, and that's the ONLY time I've had a sway issue. I just take it slow and easy at that point and usually don't have far to go or I would have turned the earth upside down to get it loaded correctly. And I feel like a soy latte drinker calling it sway. Can I please refer to it as whipping? May be a redneck term but that's what I've always heard it called here in the heartland.

Are we having fun yet?
 
H3LZSN1P3R said:
This is the only hitch that makes a bumper pull tow like a 5th wheel and it is also laughable at best

www.bpconversions.com

Bumper Pull Conversion | Houston | BPConversions LLC

We are BPConversions! We make bumper pull converters that take the old bumper pull design and upgrade it to the stable pull of a fifth wheel with no permenant alterations to the original equipment. Based in Houston.
www.bpconversions.com www.bpconversions.com
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I almost said the only hitch that will make a bumper hitch trailer pull like a 5er is gonna look a whole lot like a gooseneck.
Ol Bullet lost me with that comment. I was ready to go along with some of it, but not that one.

Thanks for that!
 
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